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Roger

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Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony

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From Gordon Fulks:

Hello Everyone,

In theory at least Oregon State University (OSU) seems to be a bastion
of academic freedom, diversity, and tolerance. A wide range of ideas
are openly discussed. The most viable rise to the top and the least
viable fade away. But it is all a fairy tale, because OSU operates
under a politically correct regimen that dictates what is acceptable
to say and what is not. Transgressors who dare to be different are
eventually weeded out so that the campus maintains its ideological
purity.

OSU is not yet as swift or efficient as the Soviet system when Joseph
Stalin was trying to quash dissent among biologists who refused to go
along with Trofim Lysenko. If warnings to compromise their integrity
were not followed, Stalin simply had biologists shot. That quickly
thinned the ranks of all biologists and persuaded the remaining ones
to comply with Stalin’s wishes. Of course, it also destroyed Soviet
biology, because Lysenko was pedaling nonsense. And Russian biology
has never recovered.

We learned over the weekend that chemist Nickolas Drapela, PhD has
been summarily fired from his position as a “Senior Instructor” in the
Department of Chemistry. The department chairman Richard Carter told
him that he was fired but would not provide any reason. Subsequent
attempts to extract a reason from the OSU administration have been
stonewalled. Drapela appears to have been highly competent and well-
liked by his students. Some have even taken up the fight to have him
reinstated.

What could possibly have provoked the OSU administration to take
precipitous action against one of their academics who has been on
their staff for ten years, just bought a house in Corvallis, and has
four young children (one with severe medical problems)? Dr. Drapela is
an outspoken critic of the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming, the
official religion of the State of Oregon, the Oregon Democratic Party,
and Governor John Kitzhaber.

Five years ago, Oregon State Climatologist George Taylor went around
quietly saying that he was not a believer. Then Governor Ted
Kulongoski and many faculty at OSU including Dr. Jane Lubchenco made
life impossible for Taylor, and he retired. (Lubchenco is now head of
NOAA in the Obama administration.) Under those currently in charge,
OSU climate research has grown to be a huge business, reportedly $90
million per year with no real deliverables beyond solid academic
support for climate hysteria. A small army of researchers ponder the
effects of Global Warming on all sorts of things from tube worms
living along the Oregon Coast to butterflies inland. When the climate
refuses to warm (as it has for the last twenty years), they just study
‘warming in reverse!’ Most of us call that “cooling,” but they are
very careful not to upset their Obama administration contract monitors
with politically incorrect terminology.

Skeptics of Global Warming who oppose the OSU approach and oppose the
politicians who make it all possible but do not work for OSU also find
themselves attacked. Dr. Art Robinson who is running against Peter
DeFazio for an Oregon Congressional seat found three of his children
under attack at OSU. All were attempting to obtain advanced degrees in
the Nuclear Engineering Department and were threatened with dismissal.
Because Robinson fought back, we understand that the OSU
administration backed down.

As to the latest victim of political correctness at OSU, Dr. Nickolas
Drapela gives us an excellent synopsis of what is going on:

“The fact of the matter is that it is now two weeks since I was fired
and no one has had the cajones or the common courtesy to even tell me
why. I have spoken with the Dept. Chair (Rich Carter) who fired me,
and he refused to tell me why. I spoke to the Dean of Science (Vince
Remcho) and he couldn’t tell me why. I spoke to HR who set up a
meeting with me, then cancelled it an hour before. Then I went to the
Vice President of Academic Affairs (Becky Warner) and she sent me back
to Rich Carter, the chemistry chair.

It’s just a sad, sad state of affairs that an institution like OSU
would fire a good employee for (ostensibly) no reason and then run
around and hide from the person they fired. I had stellar teaching
evaluations, I won College of Science awards for teaching, and
published textbooks. My class sections were always full and I was well-
liked by students (see ratemyprofessors.com). I was doing my job very
well. But I guess I didn’t march in step with their philosophies.

There were quite a few student protests over this at OSU (Barometer,
Facebook, etc.) but to no avail.

I was given no severance and had no warning this was about to happen.
In fact, I was lured into the chair’s office under the guise of a
fallacious story before being fired.

As you know, I was probably the most visibly-outspoken critic of the
Global Warming doctrine at OSU. I gave several public talks on the
topic and did research in the area which I regularly posted on the
web. I was also on a few talk radio shows in the area. I think they
finally just said, we can’t have this.

Can it be that a university whose motto is “Open minds. Open doors”
cannot abide even one faculty member who disagrees with their dogma? I
suppose I am too naive, but I’m still reeling from it. Unbelievable.

I should say that they regularly read all my email communications,
which is why I am writing from this private email address. That has
been going on for quite some time now.

As far as my options at this point, like I said I haven’t even really
grasped what has just happened. I don’t know what I’m going to do, or
what options I have yet. I’m sure OSU wants their story to be tight
and perfectly identical among all administration before coming out
with an official reason why I was fired, hence the long wait and
refusal to speak to me.

I truly thank you for your concern, and I hope there is some recourse,
even just for the sake of exposing what is happening at OSU.”

In a separate e-mail Drapela went on to say:

“Thanks so much for your support and your concern. That’s really nice.
My students were all really upset about it. They started an email
writing campaign to have me re-hired but I guess no one cares what
they think.

I find that the people who want to keep things secret all the time are
usually the people that have something to hide. It is certainly ok by
me for you to disseminate this story. But I’m sure OSU would be
horrified.

I’m not sure how I will support my family at this point. We just
bought a house in Corvallis. I have four kids, one of whom has a rare,
blood disorder and requires regular trips to Doernbecher’s Children’s
Hospital for treatment. Now we will be without health insurance.”

We can only speculate as to how the decision to fire Drapela was made.
Unlike the decision to force Taylor out (which came from the
governor’s office), this decision was likely internal to OSU with the
implicit backing of Governor Kitzhaber and NOAA administrator
Lubchenco. I would suspect that Dr. Phil Mote (Director of their
Climate Change Research Institute) had a hand in the decision, because
he has previously been highly intolerant of those who oppose his ideas
and could potentially threaten his business empire.

Please join with me in supporting Nick Drapela. Please join with me in
supporting objective science, as well as academic freedom, diversity,
and tolerance. The issues here go far beyond just Global Warming and
strike at the very heart of who we are as scientists and Americans.

Gordon J. Fulks, PhD (Physics)
Corbett, Oregon USA

P.S. Please circulate this e-mail far and wide. The world needs to
know what is going on here.
 
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony
**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked
because he has some anti-science beliefs? Of are you simply accepting
the word of a fossil fuel apologist (Watts) (and a well paid one, at that)?

Still, it is odd that a chemistry professor is so staunchly anti-science
and pro-relgion. I'd certainly expect a lot more from an allegedly
intelligent person.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
On 13/06/2012 1:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked
because he has some anti-science beliefs? Of are you simply accepting
the word of a fossil fuel apologist (Watts) (and a well paid one, at that)?

Still, it is odd that a chemistry professor is so staunchly anti-science
and pro-relgion. I'd certainly expect a lot more from an allegedly
intelligent person.


Oh just kill yourself tweva you fsking tosspot

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On 6/13/2012 4:52 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 13/06/2012 1:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked
because he has some anti-science beliefs? Of are you simply accepting
the word of a fossil fuel apologist (Watts) (and a well paid one, at
that)?

Still, it is odd that a chemistry professor is so staunchly anti-science
and pro-relgion. I'd certainly expect a lot more from an allegedly
intelligent person.


Oh just kill yourself tweva you fsking tosspot
**A response that was anticipated, given your (lack of) education.
Rather than discuss science intelligently, you resort to (incredibly
poorly spelt) insult. Congratulations. You are a credit to your teachers.

--
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On 13/06/2012 4:59 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 4:52 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 13/06/2012 1:03 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked
because he has some anti-science beliefs? Of are you simply accepting
the word of a fossil fuel apologist (Watts) (and a well paid one, at
that)?

Still, it is odd that a chemistry professor is so staunchly anti-science
and pro-relgion. I'd certainly expect a lot more from an allegedly
intelligent person.


Oh just kill yourself tweva you fsking tosspot


**A response that was anticipated, given your (lack of) education.
Liar

Show me yours and then I will show you mine or perhaps you have
nothing more than a very old minimal trade paper written on parchment ?
Now in-protest you now how to finish it all -


Rather than discuss science intelligently, you resort to (incredibly
poorly spelt) insult. Congratulations. You are a credit to your teachers.
Strawman as usual you wanker



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"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?
Anti-science ? You poor deluded fool, the nature of science is to ask questions
and then ask them again, not to leap to politically correct conclusions.
Al Gore delivered the biggest anti-science load of bullshit ever, you probably
believed every lie contained in his blatant propoganda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
 
"Yaputya" <yaputya.leftlegin@gmail.com> wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ? You poor deluded fool, the nature of science is to ask questions
and then ask them again, not to leap to politically correct conclusions.
Al Gore delivered the biggest anti-science load of bullshit ever, you probably
believed every lie contained in his blatant propoganda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
That's not a list.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Statements_by_organizations>.
That's a list!


With acknowledgement to Crocodile Dundee
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01NHcTM5IA4>.
 
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?
**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW. Dissenters include Tony Abbott, George
Pell, Nick Minchin, George W Bush and the rest of the religious nutters.
Scientists, OTOH, look at the science.


You poor deluded fool,

**Just because I accept science as the arbiter of a scientific theory,
rather than what some talk-back radio host claims, that does not mean I
am deluded. Logical, reasonable and rational, perhaps, but not deluded.

the nature of science is to ask questions
and then ask them again,
**Indeed. AGW hypothesis was first proposed by Fourier in the 19th
century. Experiments were conducted to validate the hypothesis. By the
early 1980s, solid data was collated to further solidify the theory.
Predictions were made in the early 1980s, that have been shown to be
remarkably accurate. Predictions made today will be validated in 100 years.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/04/evaluating-a-1981-temperature-projection/


not to leap to politically correct conclusions.
Al Gore delivered the biggest anti-science load of bullshit ever, you probably
believed every lie contained in his blatant propoganda.
**Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. I listen to scientists, in
matters of science. Unlike you, I don't pay attention to religious
nutters, talk-back radio hosts or politicians in matters of science.
Unlike you, I have an education and I use it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
**Why should I care what a bunch of dentists, osteopaths and mechanical
engineers think about AGW? I am far more interested in what
CLIMATOLOGISTS think about CLIMATE.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
On 6/14/2012 1:38 PM, kreed wrote:
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:27:56 PM UTC+10, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that
it be distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on
Dr. Drapela’s skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming
Cracked Open” might give some insight into OSU’s booting him
out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ? You poor deluded fool, the nature of science is to
ask questions and then ask them again, not to leap to politically
correct conclusions. Al Gore delivered the biggest anti-science
load of bullshit ever, you probably believed every lie contained in
his blatant propoganda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming




You are 100% right about TW being deluded and AGW being a giant scam,
but you are wasting time trying to reason with Trevor.
**Not at all. I am always interested in examining the SCIENCE as it
pertains to AGW.


We have been
through this before. Trevor is very delusional about this subject and
has solid belief in this AGW rubbish.
**"AGW rubbish"? Do tell. Present your peer-reviewed science that
disproves everything the following organisations have stated about AGW:

CSIRO
The Australian Academy of Science
BoM
NASA
The US EPA
The US National Academy of Sciences
American Meteorological Society
IPCC
The UK Met
The European Academy of Sciences and Arts
The Royal Society of New Zealand
The Royal Society of the UK
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Chemical Society
American Institute of Physics
American Physical Society
Australian Institute of Physics
European Physical Society
European Foundation
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies


You won't convince him
otherwise. He worships rubbish like this, with a passion that makes
the pope look like an atheist and will repeatedly throw discredited
sources at you over and over again, not to mention irrelevence like
religion.
**Can't be helped. Tony Abbott, Nick Minchin, George Pell and George W
Bush are religious fruitcakes. They all share your view and and
consistently anti-science. Like you.


(ironically he shows all the hallmarks of a religious
believer when it comes to the subject of AGW).
**Huh? Just because I cite science as my reference, that does not make
me religious. Science is an evidence-based study. If you wish to present
your peer-reviewed evidence that disputes AGW theory, then do your best.
We're all waiting.


I guess this is
because christian principles are based on a couple of things like
"not lying, not bearing false witness, and not stealing". Warmists
promote all 3 of these things.
**Cite your peer-reviewed evidence that counters AGW science.



--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:27:56 PM UTC+10, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ? You poor deluded fool, the nature of science is to ask questions
and then ask them again, not to leap to politically correct conclusions.
Al Gore delivered the biggest anti-science load of bullshit ever, you probably
believed every lie contained in his blatant propoganda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming


You are 100% right about TW being deluded and AGW being a giant scam, but you are wasting time trying to reason with Trevor. We have been through this before. Trevor is very delusional about this subject and has solid belief in this AGW rubbish. You won't convince him otherwise. He worships rubbish like this, with a passion that makes the pope look like an atheist and will repeatedly throw discredited sources at you over and over again, not to mention irrelevence like religion. (ironically he shows all the hallmarks of a religious believer when it comes to the subject of AGW). I guess this is because christian principles are based on a couple of things like "not lying, not bearing false witness, and not stealing". Warmists promote all 3 of these things.
 
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.
That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.

Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.
 
On 14/06/12 13:52, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**Not at all. I am always interested in examining the SCIENCE as it
pertains to AGW.
Too narrow. you need a wider focus.
 
On 6/15/2012 3:22 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 13:52, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**Not at all. I am always interested in examining the SCIENCE as it
pertains to AGW.

Too narrow. you need a wider focus.
**Why? The science tells us that AGW is a problem. Religious leaders,
some politicians, talk-back radio hosts and morons claim the science is
wrong.

--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr. Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.

That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.
**You are aware of what the term: 'overwhelming support' means, don't
you? There is not a shred of doubt amongst climatologists that AGW is a
reality.

Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.
**Wrong. The investigation has stretched over 150 years. The data is
irrefutable. The only hoildouts are politicians, talk-back radio hosts,
religious leaders and morons.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr.
Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.

That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.

**You are aware of what the term: 'overwhelming support' means, don't
you? There is not a shred of doubt amongst climatologists that AGW is a
reality.


Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.

**Wrong. The investigation has stretched over 150 years. The data is
irrefutable. The only hoildouts are politicians, talk-back radio hosts,
religious leaders and morons.


Wrong!! all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc
 
On 15/06/2012 5:27 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr.
Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.

That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.

**You are aware of what the term: 'overwhelming support' means, don't
you? There is not a shred of doubt amongst climatologists that AGW is a
reality.


Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.

**Wrong. The investigation has stretched over 150 years. The data is
irrefutable. The only hoildouts are politicians, talk-back radio hosts,
religious leaders and morons.


Wrong!! all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc
You notice he wont tell us what formal qualifications he himself has to
make such royal pontification on the matters

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"atec77"
F Murtz wrote:

Wrong!! all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc

You notice he wont tell us what formal qualifications he himself has to
make such royal pontification on the matters

** TW's missus works ( or used to work) as a Scientific Officer for this
mob:

http://www.ips.gov.au/

Attached to the Bureau of Meteorology and popularly known as the "
Ionospheric Prediction Service ".

Much loved by radio hams et alia.



.... Phil
 
On 15/06/2012 6:56 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
"atec77"
F Murtz wrote:

Wrong!! all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc

You notice he wont tell us what formal qualifications he himself has to
make such royal pontification on the matters


** TW's missus works ( or used to work) as a Scientific Officer for this
mob:

http://www.ips.gov.au/

Attached to the Bureau of Meteorology and popularly known as the "
Ionospheric Prediction Service ".

Much loved by radio hams et alia.



... Phil


Being a receptionist assistant does not a scientist make

--









X-No-Archive: Yes
 
On 15/06/2012 6:34 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 15/06/2012 5:27 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that
it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr.
Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.

That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.

**You are aware of what the term: 'overwhelming support' means, don't
you? There is not a shred of doubt amongst climatologists that AGW is a
reality.


Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.

**Wrong. The investigation has stretched over 150 years. The data is
irrefutable. The only hoildouts are politicians, talk-back radio hosts,
religious leaders and morons.


Wrong!! all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc
You notice he wont tell us what formal qualifications he himself has to
make such royal pontification on the matters

Lets face it nobody pontificating on climate change on Usenet, no matter
which side of the argument they are on, has any relevant qualifications
at all.

Most just believe what they want to believe and go looking for
"Evidence" to support their pre-conceived notions.
 
On 6/15/2012 5:27 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/15/2012 3:20 PM, terryc wrote:
On 14/06/12 07:24, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 6/13/2012 11:27 PM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:a3qe7cFqe3U1@mid.individual.net...
On 6/13/2012 11:18 AM, Roger wrote:
Climate skeptic instructor fired from Oregon State University
Posted on June 11, 2012 by Anthony Watts

Gordon Fulks sends this summary of the situation and asks that it be
distributed. I’m happy to oblige. For some background on Dr.
Drapela’s
skeptical views, this slideshow “Global Warming Cracked Open” might
give some insight into OSU’s booting him out. – Anthony


**Do you have any evidence to support the claim that Drapela was
sacked because he has some anti-science beliefs?

Anti-science ?

**Yes. Anti-science. There is an overwhelming support from scientists,
that validate the theory of AGW.

That isn't anti-science. Science isn't determined by democratic vote.
Learn some science history and it will quicly become obvios that just
because "everyone" believes it to be so, doesn't make it so.

**You are aware of what the term: 'overwhelming support' means, don't
you? There is not a shred of doubt amongst climatologists that AGW is a
reality.


Also, keep in kind that looking for figures to support AGW has been the
prime focus of the scientific establishment for over thrity years.

**Wrong. The investigation has stretched over 150 years. The data is
irrefutable. The only hoildouts are politicians, talk-back radio hosts,
religious leaders and morons.


Wrong!!
**Then prove it. Cite your peer-reviewed evidence.


all the people you mentioned are not experts in the field and
they all get their information from experts who differ from your holy
grail the CSIRO etc
**Cite your evidence.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 

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