How Does the Cost of Hearing Aids Defy Gravity?

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Bret Cahill

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You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.



Bret Cahill
 
On Sep 24, 10:56 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.
A modern hearing aid isn't just an audio amplifier, you know.
 
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:15:21 -0400, Michael Black wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, larwe wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:56 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.

A modern hearing aid isn't just an audio amplifier, you know.

But of course, when things get computerized, then the circuitry to
adapt to various people's hearing problems goes away, making each
hearing aid cheaper to manufacture.
Making it fit into the ear canal has to still be very labor-intensive,
albeit the amp. unit and the earmold could be pluggable.

But they still have to have a custom freq. respone.

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:54:33 -0700, larwe wrote:

On Sep 24, 4:36 pm, Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net> wrote:

But they still have to have a custom freq. respone.

The modern ones are DSPs with a programmable frequency response. The
cost reflects many different things - for instance the FDA type
certification costs which are NOT trivial.
But it _does_ have to be programmed, which kinda obviates the OP's point
of making the whole thing disposable.

I'm glad I wore earplugs to those rock concerts. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.



Bret Cahill
Most use disposable zinc-air batteries that are very cheap. You get
cards of them at the drug store. It's the very low power DSP
electronics and the tiny parts and the certs and the fitting and
tuning that are expensive.

John
 
On Sep 24, 4:36 pm, Rich Grise <richgr...@example.net> wrote:

But they still have to have a custom freq. respone.
The modern ones are DSPs with a programmable frequency response. The
cost reflects many different things - for instance the FDA type
certification costs which are NOT trivial.
 
But they still have to have a custom freq. respone.

The modern ones are DSPs with a programmable frequency response. The
cost reflects many different things - for instance the FDA type
certification costs which are NOT trivial.
Digital programable have been around for at least a decade and the
price is _still_ over several thousand dollars.

It's a large world wide market. Maybe the microphone, speaker and
fitting cost something but the price should have fallen an order of
magnitude by now.


Bret Cahill
 
On Sep 25, 9:12 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Digital programable have been around for at least a decade and the
price is _still_ over several thousand dollars.
Oddly enough you will find that the units being sold today are not the
same models being sold ten years ago. They probably have a two- or
three-year development cycle, which means the costs of FDA medical
device approval (for US market only) are being amortized across three
years only. Apply the same cost structure to other markets, too.

Sure, the manufacturers are making a profit, but it's not as clear as
$50 of parts becoming a $8000 hearing aid. (My mother in law just got
DSP aids so I've seen the costs firsthand. The list price was $9k, her
insurer paid a standard rate of $5500 and that satisfied the vendor.
Includes fitting, adjusting, tweaking, etc).
 
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.



Bret Cahill

Most use disposable zinc-air batteries that are very cheap. You get
cards of them at the drug store. It's the very low power DSP
electronics and the tiny parts and the certs and the fitting and
tuning that are expensive.
Exactly. The DSP filter, ideally, should level the critical frequency
response range or provide a selective curve as specifically needed by users.
 
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.
You'd figure glasses would be just a few cents. Glass is cheap.
 
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:

You'ld figure the battery would be the most expensive part and they
would be disposable by now.

You'd figure glasses would be just a few cents. Glass is cheap.
They are!
They cost a $1.00 at the dollar store, and I'll bet those robber barons
only
pay $0.40 wholesale. :)
Mike
PS. I buy them 10 at a time, there's always a pair somewhere when I need
them.
 
On Sep 25, 5:37 pm, "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net> wrote:

Exactly.  The DSP filter, ideally, should level the critical frequency
response range or provide a selective curve as specifically needed by users.
My understanding is that besides just bending the freq. response, they
can also move the speech band into other areas of the audio spectrum.
Some people have simply zero hearing at certain frequencies, you can
add all the dBs you want and they won't hear there.
 

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