How did I generate this trace?

[Paul Burridge]

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.
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[James Meyer]

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk>
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

 

[Kevin McMurtrie]

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

 

[James Meyer]

On Tue, 04 May 2004 16:33:47 +1000, The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> posted this:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

Indeed it is. I found that picture of the disk capacitor with the
tumor, but no scope trace messages binary or otherwise.

Jim

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Tue, 04 May 2004 11:08:28 GMT, James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Indeed it is. I found that picture of the disk capacitor with the
tumor, but no scope trace messages binary or otherwise.

Well it's definitely there, Jim. I just re-checked this minute. It's
on the *large* side, though so if you've got something on your system
that filters out large messages, that might account for it...
--

The BBC: licenced at public expense to spread lies.

 

[Active8]

On Mon, 03 May 2004 23:07:02 GMT, James Meyer wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

no
--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Kevin McMurtrie]

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:35:52 +0100, Paul Burridge
pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk
posted this:

HI all,

I've posted it to abse under the same subject heading. I was messing
about passing a 200Khz signal through a silicon diode and got this odd
looking trace. I've since been unable to recreate it for some strange
and annoying reason. Can anyone work out what's going on here; what
the trace is indicating and how I might have generated it first time
around? Sig. level was ~0.5V p-p.

p.

Couldn't find that post. Is it visible to anybody else?

Jim

No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,
and the word "binaries" is not in the title. Most news admins will not
permit binary postings here and they will not forward the binaries to
peering news servers.

Try news:alt.binaries.schematics.electronic

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,
and the word "binaries" is not in the title. Most news admins will not
permit binary postings here and they will not forward the binaries to
peering news servers.

You misunderstand. It was posted directly to abse only. And as I've
said before, it still appears as available via my ISP at any rate!
--

The BBC: licenced at public expense to spread lies.

 

[The Real Andy]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

%<

No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,

Ahh, read the origonal post 'I've posted it to abse under the same
subject heading'

 

[James Meyer]

On Tue, 04 May 2004 14:13:42 +0100, Paul Burridge <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk>
posted this:

On Tue, 04 May 2004 11:08:28 GMT, James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com
wrote:

Indeed it is. I found that picture of the disk capacitor with the
tumor, but no scope trace messages binary or otherwise.

Well it's definitely there, Jim. I just re-checked this minute. It's
on the *large* side, though so if you've got something on your system
that filters out large messages, that might account for it...

All the "mystery component" messages are there but no sign of the scope
trace pictures. I use earthlink for an isp and "agent" for a news group reader.
They've never let me down before. My system filters nothing. I see all the
message subject line headers and authors with the option to download just those
that interest me.

How about posting the original message again with a new subject line?

Jim

 

[James Meyer]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:12:06 +1000, The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> posted this:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

%


No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,

Ahh, read the origonal post 'I've posted it to abse under the same
subject heading'

I'd be willing to bet that the volume of messages on the news groups
would drop by 75 percent if respondents were actually *required* to read the
original message in a thread before replying.

Jim "RTFOM" Meyer

 

[Rich Grise]

"Paul Burridge" <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fueh901ap6hfajrb2hsje8jf63sc55g26u@4ax.com...

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,
and the word "binaries" is not in the title. Most news admins will not
permit binary postings here and they will not forward the binaries to
peering news servers.

You misunderstand. It was posted directly to abse only. And as I've
said before, it still appears as available via my ISP at any rate!
--

There's a possibility it hasn't propagated from your local server yet.

I just now went and looked at a.b.s.e, and no "How did I generate this
trace" thread has appeared yet that I've seen. It might have been
expired already, but I'd think _somebody_ would see some trace of it!

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:45:46 GMT, James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:12:06 +1000, The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> posted this:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

%


No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,

Ahh, read the origonal post 'I've posted it to abse under the same
subject heading'



I'd be willing to bet that the volume of messages on the news groups
would drop by 75 percent if respondents were actually *required* to read the
original message in a thread before replying.

Jim "RTFOM" Meyer

I take it you've now found it? What's the joke? Care to let me in on
it?

<mystified>
--

The BBC: licenced at public expense to spread lies.

 

[Kevin McMurtrie]

In article <gtih90pemhtfvehhc0finknug11o85l56q@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
<.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

%


No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,

Ahh, read the origonal post 'I've posted it to abse under the same
subject heading'

I skipped over the "abse". It looked like a typo when I first read it.

It helps to post an article number. I don't see it in
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic.

 

[James Meyer]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 15:54:49 +0100, Paul Burridge <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk>
posted this:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:45:46 GMT, James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com
wrote:

I'd be willing to bet that the volume of messages on the news groups
would drop by 75 percent if respondents were actually *required* to read the
original message in a thread before replying.

Jim "RTFOM" Meyer

I take it you've now found it? What's the joke? Care to let me in on
it?

mystified

The joke was about people looking on sed for a message that you told
them that you posted on abse.

And no, I haven't yet found the scope trace message onn abse. I can
find all the "mystery component" messages, but none about the scope trace.

Jim

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 22:58:40 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

It helps to post an article number. I don't see it in
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic.

I can only assume that most servers have blocked it on account of its
size, then. :-(

--

The BBC: licenced at public expense to spread lies.

 

[Dave Cole]

in article 1kkh90h61tm5n1qovt4jan8ob0e75gj303@4ax.com, James Meyer at
jmeyer@nowhere.com wrote on 5/5/04 06:45:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:12:06 +1000, The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> posted this:

On Wed, 05 May 2004 00:32:04 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <p9ee90t3goi19mjd5f5vm0f9n1opvu7f1d@4ax.com>,
The Real Andy
.pearson@wayit_dot_com_dot_au_remove_the_obvious_to_reply> wrote:

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:43:36 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

In article <t1kd90137s6hlvr9u3ji1ljmvegcug7noq@4ax.com>,
James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com> wrote:

%


No. Binaries posted to text newsgroups get filtered and cancelled.

Its a binaries newsgroup.

No, sci.electronics.design is a discussion newsgroup. No charter says
it's a binary group, the description doesn't say it's a binary group,

Ahh, read the origonal post 'I've posted it to abse under the same
subject heading'



I'd be willing to bet that the volume of messages on the news groups
would drop by 75 percent if respondents were actually *required* to read the
original message in a thread before replying.

Jim "RTFOM" Meyer



But that would kill about half the fun ;-) .

DC