Honeybees 'Whoop'

[Tim Williams]

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs, LLC
Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design
Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

 

[Winfield Hill]

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

I've been loading up our hives with sensors,
in a kind of mindless way, with sensors that
are easy to install. Tiny electret mics,
yes, but embedded accelerometers, no.

We need lots of cameras, oops, too hard.

My newest PCB, called TH-stick, probes into the
middle of the hive, six sensor ICs, 14 channels.
A finished set of them will be arriving soon.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[John Doe]

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-
whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

Or to know what they bumped into is a friendly bee.

Watched this one just yesterday, about how some honeybees defend
against Hornets...

https://youtu.be/K6m40W1s0Wc?t=22

 

[John Larkin]

On 20 May 2019 18:13:47 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

I've been loading up our hives with sensors,
in a kind of mindless way, with sensors that
are easy to install. Tiny electret mics,
yes, but embedded accelerometers, no.

We need lots of cameras, oops, too hard.

My newest PCB, called TH-stick, probes into the
middle of the hive, six sensor ICs, 14 channels.
A finished set of them will be arriving soon.

Measure (and listen to) e-field!


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (20 May 2019 18:13:47 -0700) it happened Winfield Hill
<hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote in <qbvjcb0a9j@drn.newsguy.com>:

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

I've been loading up our hives with sensors,
in a kind of mindless way, with sensors that
are easy to install. Tiny electret mics,
yes, but embedded accelerometers, no.

We need lots of cameras, oops, too hard.

My newest PCB, called TH-stick, probes into the
middle of the hive, six sensor ICs, 14 channels.
A finished set of them will be arriving soon.

Are Bs bothered by IR light?
If not then some cheap cameras with MJPEG stream output could work.
Avoid cameras with H264 compression etc if you need to see fast motion,
that only gives blurred Iframes,
High speed MJPEG cameras would be better,
Depends on what you want to see., wings flapping, or just where the bees are at any given time.
Lens cleaning?
Could indeed get complictiatiateded.

 

[boB]

On Tue, 21 May 2019 01:34:40 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-
whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

Or to know what they bumped into is a friendly bee.

Watched this one just yesterday, about how some honeybees defend
against Hornets...

https://youtu.be/K6m40W1s0Wc?t=22

Fascinating ! Both bee stories !

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2019-05-21, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (20 May 2019 18:13:47 -0700) it happened Winfield Hill
hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote in <qbvjcb0a9j@drn.newsguy.com>:

Are Bs bothered by IR light?

They're not bothered by light, the local museum has a glass box hive
with the exit leading outdoors.

Lens cleaning?
Could indeed get complictiatiateded.

yeah

--
When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

 

On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 07:44:10 UTC+1, boB wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2019 01:34:40 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote:

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tim Williams wrote...

Win Hill: does this count as topical?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2121275-honeybees-let-out-a-
whoop-when-they-bump-into-each-other/

If not topical, at least interesting. It's
very dark in the hives, especially at night,
so bees must be going by feel. Maybe this
is simply a way for bees to keep their little
bit of space, so they can do their work.

Or to know what they bumped into is a friendly bee.

Watched this one just yesterday, about how some honeybees defend
against Hornets...

https://youtu.be/K6m40W1s0Wc?t=22


Fascinating ! Both bee stories !

You could make a B-movie.

 

[boB]

On Tue, 21 May 2019 05:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-05-21, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (20 May 2019 18:13:47 -0700) it happened Winfield Hill
hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote in <qbvjcb0a9j@drn.newsguy.com>:

Are Bs bothered by IR light?

They're not bothered by light, the local museum has a glass box hive
with the exit leading outdoors.

Lens cleaning?
Could indeed get complictiatiateded.

yeah

My Samsung S7 does a good job of slow-mo of bees on the flowers moving
around and wings flapping.

 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 6:04:09 PM UTC-4, boB wrote:

On Tue, 21 May 2019 05:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-05-21, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (20 May 2019 18:13:47 -0700) it happened Winfield Hill
hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote in <qbvjcb0a9j@drn.newsguy.com>:

Are Bs bothered by IR light?

They're not bothered by light, the local museum has a glass box hive
with the exit leading outdoors.

Lens cleaning?
Could indeed get complictiatiateded.

yeah


My Samsung S7 does a good job of slow-mo of bees on the flowers moving
around and wings flapping.

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees do a dance
near the hive that signals to the other bees the direction and distance
to where the good flowers are at that they found.

 

[Mike Coon]

In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees do a dance
near the hive that signals to the other bees the direction and distance
to where the good flowers are at that they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in the open
when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The bees form a
temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere permanent. They come
back and do a waggle dance just as if foraging. Eventually a consensus
forms and all the bees head off to their new home. Magic!

Mike.

 

[Don Kuenz]

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:

In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees do a dance
near the hive that signals to the other bees the direction and distance
to where the good flowers are at that they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in the open
when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The bees form a
temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere permanent. They come
back and do a waggle dance just as if foraging. Eventually a consensus
forms and all the bees head off to their new home. Magic!

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

Thank you, 73,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU
There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light;
She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.

 

[Mike Coon]

In article <20190522a@crcomp.net>, g@crcomp.net says...

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

Thank you, 73,

Thanks for that story...

Mike.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 23/05/19 02:22, Don Kuenz wrote:

Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:
In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees do a dance
near the hive that signals to the other bees the direction and distance
to where the good flowers are at that they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in the open
when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The bees form a
temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere permanent. They come
back and do a waggle dance just as if foraging. Eventually a consensus
forms and all the bees head off to their new home. Magic!

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

I've had that three times in my garden.

Once on the lawn, of all places.

Once on a bush, 6ft up. When discussing that with other people
in the village, I found a near neighbour kept bees.

Again, on the same bush. My near neighbour was delighted to
come and collect the swarm

 

[Winfield Hill]

Tom Gardner wrote...

On 23/05/19 02:22, Don Kuenz wrote:
Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:
In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees
do a dance near the hive that signals to the other bees the
direction and distance to where the good flowers are at that
they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message
is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in
the open when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The
bees form a temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere
permanent. They come back and do a waggle dance just as if
foraging. Eventually a consensus forms and all the bees head
off to their new home. Magic!

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

I've had that three times in my garden.
Once on the lawn, of all places.
Once on a bush, 6ft up. When discussing that with other
people in the village, I found a near neighbour kept bees.

Again, on the same bush. My near neighbour was delighted
to come and collect the swarm

I wonder if it was his bees. When the queen becomes
unhappy with the hive, or worried about disturbances,
she will make the hive abscomb. They call it abscomb,
rather than abandon, because the bees take as much of
the honey as they can with them. Hah, it may have been
his queen, and she may not have been so happy about it,
unless she got a new fresh hive.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 25/05/19 21:53, Winfield Hill wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote...

On 23/05/19 02:22, Don Kuenz wrote:
Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:
In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees
do a dance near the hive that signals to the other bees the
direction and distance to where the good flowers are at that
they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message
is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in
the open when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The
bees form a temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere
permanent. They come back and do a waggle dance just as if
foraging. Eventually a consensus forms and all the bees head
off to their new home. Magic!

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

I've had that three times in my garden.
Once on the lawn, of all places.
Once on a bush, 6ft up. When discussing that with other
people in the village, I found a near neighbour kept bees.

Again, on the same bush. My near neighbour was delighted
to come and collect the swarm

I wonder if it was his bees. When the queen becomes
unhappy with the hive, or worried about disturbances,
she will make the hive abscomb. They call it abscomb,
rather than abandon, because the bees take as much of
the honey as they can with them. Hah, it may have been
his queen, and she may not have been so happy about it,
unless she got a new fresh hive.

Interesting thought; annoyed I didn't think of it.

They gave no indication of having "lost" a swarm, but
that is absence of evidence.

Abscomb is an interesting word. I suspect it could be
applied to other phenomena such as dictators that
flee the country.

The bog-standard google search thinks "abscond". I'll check
in an old Websters dictionary tomorrow.

 

[Winfield Hill]

Tom Gardner wrote...

On 25/05/19 21:53, Winfield Hill wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote...

On 23/05/19 02:22, Don Kuenz wrote:
Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:
In article <b1c74b3d-c7cb-4ca8-a98d-ed6f610429d0@googlegroups.com>,
trader4@optonline.net says...

One of the most fascinating things on bees I saw on TV. Bees
do a dance near the hive that signals to the other bees the
direction and distance to where the good flowers are at that
they found.

It's actually within the hive, in the dark. So tactile message
is ideal!
I've seen the other use of this communication. It happens in
the open when a swarm heads off to found another colony. The
bees form a temporary bivouac and scouts look for somewhere
permanent. They come back and do a waggle dance just as if
foraging. Eventually a consensus forms and all the bees head
off to their new home. Magic!

In 2013 a bivouac lighted on one of my trees for a short while.
http://crcomp.net/biology/beebivouac/index.php

I've had that three times in my garden.
Once on the lawn, of all places.
Once on a bush, 6ft up. When discussing that with other
people in the village, I found a near neighbour kept bees.

Again, on the same bush. My near neighbour was delighted
to come and collect the swarm

I wonder if it was his bees. When the queen becomes
unhappy with the hive, or worried about disturbances,
she will make the hive abscomb. They call it abscomb,
rather than abandon, because the bees take as much of
the honey as they can with them. Hah, it may have been
his queen, and she may not have been so happy about it,
unless she got a new fresh hive.

Interesting thought; annoyed I didn't think of it.

They gave no indication of having "lost" a swarm, but
that is absence of evidence.

Abscomb is an interesting word.

abscond, yes.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Steve Wilson]

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote...

Abscomb is an interesting word.

abscond, yes.

It s a perfectly cromulent word. He absconded with the money.

See google.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 26/05/19 02:58, Steve Wilson wrote:

Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote...

Abscomb is an interesting word.

abscond, yes.

It s a perfectly cromulent word. He absconded with the money.

Like "quiz".

I prefer "He abscombed with the money"

 

[Mike Coon]

In article <TQqGE.873806$2T.642357@fx20.am4>, spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk
says...

I prefer "He abscombed with the money"

I don't. But on the other hand on the original topic of honeybees on a
comb it could be appropriate!

Mike.