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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com>
wrote in Message id: <I7omn.34195$%h1.13801@newsfe03.ams2>:
wrote in Message id: <I7omn.34195$%h1.13801@newsfe03.ams2>:
Sounds TGTBT.http://www.elektor.com/news/new-magnetic-solders-are-environmentally-friendly.1285346.lynkx?utm_source=UK&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
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N_Cook
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Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Assuming not 01 April issue and genuine. By implication the iron is not
going to rust and break down the joint any more than Pb in SnBp will
oxidise/ionise and dissolve/breakdown. How many Tesla to make a joint in
close proximity to chippery?
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Assuming not 01 April issue and genuine. By implication the iron is not
going to rust and break down the joint any more than Pb in SnBp will
oxidise/ionise and dissolve/breakdown. How many Tesla to make a joint in
close proximity to chippery?
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Sansui Samari
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On Mar 12, 2:26 am, JW <n...@dev.null> wrote:
ferrous metal, then inductive heating would be a problem. Also, iron,
if memory serves has a problem with oxidization. I wonder how they
bond the iron with the other elements to avoid this. maybe it needs
to have conformal coating. What's the price tag going to be for the
solder, and the inductive soldering equipment?
I see some potential problems. If any of the components contain aOn Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000 "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com
wrote in Message id: <I7omn.34195$%h1.13...@newsfe03.ams2>:
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Arfa
Sounds TGTBT.
ferrous metal, then inductive heating would be a problem. Also, iron,
if memory serves has a problem with oxidization. I wonder how they
bond the iron with the other elements to avoid this. maybe it needs
to have conformal coating. What's the price tag going to be for the
solder, and the inductive soldering equipment?
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Arfa Daily
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"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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weekly e-newsletter. Generally, Elektor are not given to publishing
non-genuine material, and it seemed pretty feasible to me.
Arfa
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Nope. Not an April issue. Internal link to an external paper sent via theirArfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Arfa
Assuming not 01 April issue and genuine. By implication the iron is not
going to rust and break down the joint any more than Pb in SnBp will
oxidise/ionise and dissolve/breakdown. How many Tesla to make a joint in
close proximity to chippery?
weekly e-newsletter. Generally, Elektor are not given to publishing
non-genuine material, and it seemed pretty feasible to me.
Arfa
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Jeff Liebermann
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
can read between the lines, the iron is used as a filler to increase
strength and does not chemically bond or alloy with the other
ingredients. That would imply that just about any strong conductive
metal might work. Stainless perhaps?
My current favorite solder is 96% tin and 4% silver. Very expensive
and 220C (430F) melting point.
Also, Tin-Lead-Bismuth mixes, which melt as low as 138C (280F).
<http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9605/McCormack-9605.html>
Well, Tin-Lead-Bismuth-Silver is more practical at 170C (338F).
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# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
As others have mentioned, I smell a potential rust problem. Near as Ihttp://www.elektor.com/news/new-magnetic-solders-are-environmentally-friendly.1285346.lynkx?utm_source=UK&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
can read between the lines, the iron is used as a filler to increase
strength and does not chemically bond or alloy with the other
ingredients. That would imply that just about any strong conductive
metal might work. Stainless perhaps?
My current favorite solder is 96% tin and 4% silver. Very expensive
and 220C (430F) melting point.
Also, Tin-Lead-Bismuth mixes, which melt as low as 138C (280F).
<http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9605/McCormack-9605.html>
Well, Tin-Lead-Bismuth-Silver is more practical at 170C (338F).
--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
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Jim Yanik
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:n2bmp550jjtrjbipqv41csd1pde9e86gp4@4ax.com:
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Jim Yanik
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dot com
news:n2bmp550jjtrjbipqv41csd1pde9e86gp4@4ax.com:
my fav is 63/37 eutectic. Not lead-free,though.On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
http://www.elektor.com/news/new-magnetic-solders-are-environmentally-fr
iendly.1285346.lynkx?utm_source=UK&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
As others have mentioned, I smell a potential rust problem. Near as I
can read between the lines, the iron is used as a filler to increase
strength and does not chemically bond or alloy with the other
ingredients. That would imply that just about any strong conductive
metal might work. Stainless perhaps?
My current favorite solder is 96% tin and 4% silver. Very expensive
and 220C (430F) melting point.
the solder in Chip-Quik SMD removal kit(Sony?) melts at 160degF. (FWIW)Also, Tin-Lead-Bismuth mixes, which melt as low as 138C (280F).
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9605/McCormack-9605.html
Well, Tin-Lead-Bismuth-Silver is more practical at 170C (338F).
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
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N_Cook
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3A7DB4B6395jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44...
Is that made from Woods metal , the stuff they make thermal fuses and
fusible resistors from and also joke teaspoons, despite containing cadmium
and lead.
news:Xns9D3A7DB4B6395jyaniklocalnetcom@216.168.3.44...
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:n2bmp550jjtrjbipqv41csd1pde9e86gp4@4ax.com:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
http://www.elektor.com/news/new-magnetic-solders-are-environmentally-fr
iendly.1285346.lynkx?utm_source=UK&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news
As others have mentioned, I smell a potential rust problem. Near as I
can read between the lines, the iron is used as a filler to increase
strength and does not chemically bond or alloy with the other
ingredients. That would imply that just about any strong conductive
metal might work. Stainless perhaps?
My current favorite solder is 96% tin and 4% silver. Very expensive
and 220C (430F) melting point.
my fav is 63/37 eutectic. Not lead-free,though.
Also, Tin-Lead-Bismuth mixes, which melt as low as 138C (280F).
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9605/McCormack-9605.html
Well, Tin-Lead-Bismuth-Silver is more practical at 170C (338F).
the solder in Chip-Quik SMD removal kit(Sony?) melts at 160degF. (FWIW)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Is that made from Woods metal , the stuff they make thermal fuses and
fusible resistors from and also joke teaspoons, despite containing cadmium
and lead.
J
Jim Yanik
Guest
"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in
news:hngmck$uf2$1@news.eternal-september.org:
It probably has indium and bismuth in it,I doubt it has cadmium.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
news:hngmck$uf2$1@news.eternal-september.org:
I'm not sure,IIRC,Sony kept the formula private.Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:n2bmp550jjtrjbipqv41csd1pde9e86gp4@4ax.com:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:50:26 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
http://www.elektor.com/news/new-magnetic-solders-are-environmentally
-fr
iendly.1285346.lynkx?utm_source=UK&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new
s
As others have mentioned, I smell a potential rust problem. Near
as I can read between the lines, the iron is used as a filler to
increase strength and does not chemically bond or alloy with the
other ingredients. That would imply that just about any strong
conductive metal might work. Stainless perhaps?
My current favorite solder is 96% tin and 4% silver. Very
expensive and 220C (430F) melting point.
my fav is 63/37 eutectic. Not lead-free,though.
Also, Tin-Lead-Bismuth mixes, which melt as low as 138C (280F).
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9605/McCormack-9605.html
Well, Tin-Lead-Bismuth-Silver is more practical at 170C (338F).
the solder in Chip-Quik SMD removal kit(Sony?) melts at 160degF.
(FWIW)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Is that made from Woods metal , the stuff they make thermal fuses and
fusible resistors from and also joke teaspoons, despite containing
cadmium and lead.
It probably has indium and bismuth in it,I doubt it has cadmium.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com