Hints for soldering wire with fibers intertwined

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Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames
 
"grames" <grames@telstra.com> wrote in message
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Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames
I had something of a struggle myself doing the same job. If I remember
correctly, I dipped the ends in metho and set fire to them. I believe the
fibres were cotton, and this did the trick. If your fibres are different
this may not work, but well worth a try. Have fun and perhaps do it
outdoors.

Old Bill
 
grames <grames@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:bab73583.0310150241.6b67d707@posting.google.com...
Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames
Doing what you're suggesting defeats the purpose of the design. Normally
this sort of wire is terminated with crimp connectors that grab both the
conductor and the fibre, which provides a combination of strength and
flexibility. If you can locate suitable crimp terminals and a tool to apply
them you'll end up with a better job with a lot less fuss.
 
Another approach is to wind some fine tinned copper wire around the
end of the cable and then apply solder. The resulting tinned stub can
then be used to make the joint.

Dave


On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:16:37 +0800, "bruce varley"
<bxvarley@weqstnet.com.au> wrote:

grames <grames@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:bab73583.0310150241.6b67d707@posting.google.com...
Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames

Doing what you're suggesting defeats the purpose of the design. Normally
this sort of wire is terminated with crimp connectors that grab both the
conductor and the fibre, which provides a combination of strength and
flexibility. If you can locate suitable crimp terminals and a tool to apply
them you'll end up with a better job with a lot less fuss.
 
Dave wrote:

Another approach is to wind some fine tinned copper wire around the
end of the cable and then apply solder. The resulting tinned stub can
then be used to make the joint.

Dave


On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:16:37 +0800, "bruce varley"
bxvarley@weqstnet.com.au> wrote:


grames <grames@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:bab73583.0310150241.6b67d707@posting.google.com...
Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames

Doing what you're suggesting defeats the purpose of the design. Normally
this sort of wire is terminated with crimp connectors that grab both the
conductor and the fibre, which provides a combination of strength and
flexibility. If you can locate suitable crimp terminals and a tool to apply
them you'll end up with a better job with a lot less fuss.
I would not recommend soldering at all. Soldering will form a rigid
point in the conductor and any flexing will fracture it at that point.
After wrapping with fine wire you form it into an eyelet and then finish
off the butt at the base of the eyelet by wrapping with waxed cotton for
about 12mm. The cotton must be wrapped so that tying knots is not
required. This is done by folding a loop of the wrapping cotton
lengthwise with the open loop at the formed eyelet end. After sufficient
cotton has been wrapped finish at the end closest to the loop and poke
the end thru. The end of the cotton at the beginning can then be pulled
tight and the finish end will be pulled under and secured underneath the
binding. This takes practice so as not to break the cotton when pulling.
Polyester sewing thread is better and wax it with beeswax.

Ross H
 
"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

Another approach is to wind some fine tinned copper wire around the
end of the cable and then apply solder. The resulting tinned stub can
then be used to make the joint.

Dave


On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 22:16:37 +0800, "bruce varley"
bxvarley@weqstnet.com.au> wrote:


grames <grames@telstra.com> wrote in message
news:bab73583.0310150241.6b67d707@posting.google.com...
Any hints for soldering cable with fine fibers intertwined in it.
I am trying to use a curly cord salvaged from something else and
find the process of individually teasing out the fibers and
cutting them off to be very tedious. They are very fine.
If left they seem to make soldering almost impossible.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Grames

Doing what you're suggesting defeats the purpose of the design. Normally
this sort of wire is terminated with crimp connectors that grab both the
conductor and the fibre, which provides a combination of strength and
flexibility. If you can locate suitable crimp terminals and a tool to
apply
them you'll end up with a better job with a lot less fuss.



I would not recommend soldering at all. Soldering will form a rigid
point in the conductor and any flexing will fracture it at that point.
After wrapping with fine wire you form it into an eyelet and then finish
off the butt at the base of the eyelet by wrapping with waxed cotton for
about 12mm. The cotton must be wrapped so that tying knots is not
required. This is done by folding a loop of the wrapping cotton
lengthwise with the open loop at the formed eyelet end. After sufficient
cotton has been wrapped finish at the end closest to the loop and poke
the end thru. The end of the cotton at the beginning can then be pulled
tight and the finish end will be pulled under and secured underneath the
binding. This takes practice so as not to break the cotton when pulling.
Polyester sewing thread is better and wax it with beeswax.

Ross H
Grames.
You may not think that this is important, but you may want to consider an
acknowledment or two for the people who have taken the trouble to provide
some viable answers to your question. Usenet is a valuable resource that
relies on feedback to encourage yet more others to provide yet more
information. Failing to give feedback breaks the chain and will eventually
lead to the diminishment of newsgroups as a resource. Do the right thing
please.

Old Bill
 
Grames.
You may not think that this is important, but you may want to consider an
acknowledment or two for the people who have taken the trouble to provide
some viable answers to your question.
Old Bill
Thanks all for the response

Grames
 

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