High current cigarette lighter plug needed.

[klem kedidelhopper]

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

 

[Charles]

"klem kedidelhopper" wrote in message
news:1a67f90b-0a33-4039-b678-ccdb58c66b46@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-16-Gauge-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B001F4C99U

 

[Dave M]

Charles wrote:

"klem kedidelhopper" wrote in message
news:1a67f90b-0a33-4039-b678-ccdb58c66b46@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-16-Gauge-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B001F4C99U

Take a look at these Ebay items:
251125329902 This one is fused for 10A, located in the US
130315134986 This one is rated at 5A, located in Taiwan
260803255337 This one is rated at 25A, located in the UK.

--
Dave M
A woman has the last word in any argument. Anything a man says after
that is the beginning of a new argument.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:32:49 -0700 (PDT), klem kedidelhopper
<captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote:

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load.

<http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/download.php>

I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

Before you blunder any further, check the cigarette lighter fuse
rating on your vehicle. My 1960 Ford Falcon was 5 amps, which
suggests that a 6 amp load isn't going to work. Later models come
with 10 or 20 amp fuses, which seems to be the defacto standards.
<http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=35519.0>
<http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070220111717AAEng6E>
We won't talk about products that try to start the vehicle with an
auxiliary battery plugged into the cigarette lighter.

On the plug end, I've seen 7.5A and 10A fuses. Here's one rated at
20A, but I'll bet that it arrives with a smaller value fuse:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/390280416767> $7.68
More:
<http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_kw=Fused+Lighter+Plug+20>

If you find a cigarette lighter plug that either locks or doesn't
creep out of it's socket, I would be interested. The vibration
problem is common in marine applications. However, ones that claim to
lock require a corresponding locking socket:
<http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Grade-Locking-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B0002KRC5O>
<http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Grade-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket/dp/B0002KRC5Y>
I'm looking for one that doesn't require I butcher my vehicle
dashboard.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Dave Platt]

In article <krai489gjp5v28r54ges0dks3qmdmntdg1@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

If you find a cigarette lighter plug that either locks or doesn't
creep out of it's socket, I would be interested. The vibration
problem is common in marine applications. However, ones that claim to
lock require a corresponding locking socket:
http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Grade-Locking-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B0002KRC5O
http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Grade-Cigarette-Lighter-Socket/dp/B0002KRC5Y
I'm looking for one that doesn't require I butcher my vehicle
dashboard.

After I looked at a bunch of cigarette-lighter plugs, I kinda gave up
in disgust... wired up a separate feed to the battery with its own
fuses, installed some Anderson PowerPole connectors in a standard
ARES/RACES configuration, and have been happy ever since.

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

 

[amdx]

On 9/6/2012 5:18 PM, Charles wrote:

"klem kedidelhopper" wrote in message
news:1a67f90b-0a33-4039-b678-ccdb58c66b46@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-16-Gauge-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B001F4C99U

I like the reviewer that blew the original 3 amp fuse so replaced it
with 30 amp.
Mikek

 

[gregz]

klem kedidelhopper <captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote:

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

I can't find the ones I bought, but this concept.


http://400wattpowerinverter.com/power-inverters/attwood-marine-12-volt-power-outlet/

Greg

 

[Dave Platt]

In article <59a8d$50494a4b$18ec6dd7$26997@KNOLOGY.NET>,
amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-16-Gauge-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B001F4C99U

I like the reviewer that blew the original 3 amp fuse so replaced it
with 30 amp.
Mikek

"Think of it as evolution in action."

--
Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

 

[Geoffrey S. Mendelson]

Dave Platt wrote:

In article <59a8d$50494a4b$18ec6dd7$26997@KNOLOGY.NET>,
amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-16-Gauge-Cigarette-Lighter/dp/B001F4C99U

I like the reviewer that blew the original 3 amp fuse so replaced it
with 30 amp.
Mikek

"Think of it as evolution in action."

I recently bought some blade fuse holders that had 3.5mm wires and included
30 amp fuses. I intended to use them for 5 amps, and bought extra fuses
accordingly.

The fuse holders arrived from China, with 3.5mm wires. Unfortunately the
the 3.5mm was the outside dimension of the wires, they were really 16 guage.

To top it off, blade fuses are color coded, and for some reason I can not
fathom, the Chinese standard is red for both 5 amp and 40 amp. In two orders
of fuses, I got 5 amp fuses like I ordered in one, and 40 in the other.

I guess that's what happens when you try to evolve to quickly.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379

 

[N_Cook]

klem kedidelhopper <captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a67f90b-0a33-4039-b678-ccdb58c66b46@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

What do they use on those kettles for vehicular use? cut off the kettle?

 

[Wild_Bill]

Lighter sockets which have been used for cigarette lighter usage generally
have badly oxidized center contacts, which will usually result in heat being
generated by the poor/high resistance contact made for an electrical
connection which requires any significant current.

A better connector such as Dave P suggests, is a much better solution unless
the electrical device needs to be used universally in multiple vehicles.

If the socket is in bad condition electrically, a better quality plug
connector likely won't improve the situation of the plug components
overheating.
Even Bakelite will break down if subjected to high heat from a poor
electrical connection.

In most cases, the plugs aren't very secure connections to begin with..
especially when the vehicle is being driven causing vibration and movement
of the cable.

I have a few lighter plugs that would be considered good quality/high
reliability, but they're usually only available with high quality 12V
accessories.
Older products typically have better quality hardware.. such as an older
Sony or similar brand name product, maybe more easily found in a thrift shop
these days.

A better quality connector may be found on accessories intended for use on
aircraft, such as laptop PC power converters.

--
Cheers,
WB
..............


"klem kedidelhopper" <captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1a67f90b-0a33-4039-b678-ccdb58c66b46@r4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...

I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

 

[klem kedidelhopper]

On Sep 8, 9:17 am, "Wild_Bill" <wb_wildb...@XSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

Lighter sockets which have been used for cigarette lighter usage generally
have badly oxidized center contacts, which will usually result in heat being
generated by the poor/high resistance contact made for an electrical
connection which requires any significant current.

A better connector such as Dave P suggests, is a much better solution unless
the electrical device needs to be used universally in multiple vehicles.

If the socket is in bad condition electrically, a better quality plug
connector likely won't improve the situation of the plug components
overheating.
Even Bakelite will break down if subjected to high heat from a poor
electrical connection.

In most cases, the plugs aren't very secure connections to begin with..
especially when the vehicle is being driven causing vibration and movement
of the cable.

I have a few lighter plugs that would be considered good quality/high
reliability, but they're usually only available with high quality 12V
accessories.
Older products typically have better quality hardware.. such as an older
Sony or similar brand name product, maybe more easily found in a thrift shop
these days.

A better quality connector may be found on accessories intended for use on
aircraft, such as laptop PC power converters.

--
Cheers,
WB
.............

"klem kedidelhopper" <captainvideo462...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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I need a cigarette lighter plug for my van that will handle a 6 amp
load. I have a lot of these plastic plugs and I've tried several that
I had here with plastic housings. After a couple of minutes the
internal spring supporting the fuse gets hot enough to melt the
plastic housing and render the plug useless. Does anyone know if there
is a high current, perhaps bakelite version of this crappy Chinese
plug? Thanks, Lenny

I would disconnect the battery or lighter fuse and then go at the
vehicle's cigarette lighter connector with a small wire brush on a
Dremel tool. Don't forget to blow out any small wire fragments that
come off the cheapo Chinese brush. Then check the back side of the
connector, (it's probably a push on terminal type) for looseness and
signs of burning, and then finish up with a shot of silicone type
tuner cleaner. Lenny