Help, my USB devices keep getting spiked/destroyed!

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Shannell Sugrue

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I have a NF7 abit motherboard and a codegen 400w powersupply Ive broken 2
USB devices so far, a canon i560 printer and a logitech wireless joystick.
The printer worked fine on other machines, then I plugged it into mine and
it wasnt recognised by the usb device detect thing, put it back on the other
machines and same problem, still worked on the parrallel port though but I
took it back and got another and the exact same thing happened, canon
verified that a chip had blown. Ive kept this one as it must be at my end.
Next up is the usb reciever/dongle from my new wireless joystick, joystick
worked fine then I swapped from the usb connection off a header to the MB to
the usb connection at the back of the case, next thing you know "device not
recognised" and cant be recognised in any other machine either, and the
light on the front of the reciever/dongle doesnt work any more although Im
not sure if it was on all the time it was plugged in or just when it detects
a signal. So whats going on here? I have several other devices that work
fine on any of my usb ports, card readers, wireless access point, ISDN
modem, PDA, drawing tablet etc. Perhaps these 2 devices were more sensitive
to voltage and got "burnt"? Im reasonably savvy electronically so I can run
some tests if anyone has anything they could think of to check? Any help
appreciated.
 
"Shannell Sugrue" <sjs@nella.net.au> wrote in message
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I have a NF7 abit motherboard and a codegen 400w powersupply Ive broken 2
USB devices so far, a canon i560 printer and a logitech wireless joystick.
The printer worked fine on other machines, then I plugged it into mine and
it wasnt recognised by the usb device detect thing, put it back on the
other
machines and same problem, still worked on the parrallel port though but I
took it back and got another and the exact same thing happened, canon
verified that a chip had blown. Ive kept this one as it must be at my end.
Next up is the usb reciever/dongle from my new wireless joystick, joystick
worked fine then I swapped from the usb connection off a header to the MB
to
the usb connection at the back of the case, next thing you know "device
not
recognised" and cant be recognised in any other machine either, and the
light on the front of the reciever/dongle doesnt work any more although Im
not sure if it was on all the time it was plugged in or just when it
detects
a signal. So whats going on here? I have several other devices that work
fine on any of my usb ports, card readers, wireless access point, ISDN
modem, PDA, drawing tablet etc. Perhaps these 2 devices were more
sensitive
to voltage and got "burnt"? Im reasonably savvy electronically so I can
run
some tests if anyone has anything they could think of to check? Any help
appreciated.
Click to expand...
I had this happen on one of my usb connectors. The pinout of the usb header
on the mobo is not standard across all manufacturers. Smart money is
the -ve and +ve pins on the usb port are swapped. The data ones could be
too but that wont nuke anything. Maybe something's have reverse bias
protection??

HTH

Mike
 
read the manual for the motherboard & usb devices.

I know some devices required software driver to be installed first &
restart, and the devices connect to it after the os is loaded.

The usb devices is probably "fried" during power up.


"mikegw" <mikegw20@hotmail.spammers.must.die.com> wrote in message
news:cecqvi$b5$1@tomahawk.unsw.edu.au...
"Shannell Sugrue" <sjs@nella.net.au> wrote in message
news:4109d737$1@usenet.per.paradox.net.au...
I have a NF7 abit motherboard and a codegen 400w powersupply Ive broken
2
USB devices so far, a canon i560 printer and a logitech wireless
joystick.
The printer worked fine on other machines, then I plugged it into mine
and
it wasnt recognised by the usb device detect thing, put it back on the
other
machines and same problem, still worked on the parrallel port though but
I
took it back and got another and the exact same thing happened, canon
verified that a chip had blown. Ive kept this one as it must be at my
end.
Next up is the usb reciever/dongle from my new wireless joystick,
joystick
worked fine then I swapped from the usb connection off a header to the
MB
to
the usb connection at the back of the case, next thing you know "device
not
recognised" and cant be recognised in any other machine either, and the
light on the front of the reciever/dongle doesnt work any more although
Im
not sure if it was on all the time it was plugged in or just when it
detects
a signal. So whats going on here? I have several other devices that work
fine on any of my usb ports, card readers, wireless access point, ISDN
modem, PDA, drawing tablet etc. Perhaps these 2 devices were more
sensitive
to voltage and got "burnt"? Im reasonably savvy electronically so I can
run
some tests if anyone has anything they could think of to check? Any help
appreciated.


I had this happen on one of my usb connectors. The pinout of the usb
header
on the mobo is not standard across all manufacturers. Smart money is
the -ve and +ve pins on the usb port are swapped. The data ones could be
too but that wont nuke anything. Maybe something's have reverse bias
protection??

HTH

Mike
Click to expand...
 
The joystick wasnt, it was "fried" while the pc was already powered up.
Surely these devices cant be zapped by a normal startup just because of
drivers? the drivers dont even kick in until winxp is loaded, and the
voltage should be constant anyway? Ive got some voltage monitoring software
installed and its at a steady +5.03v ( I presume its the + and not the -)


"eltan" <eltan@start.com.au> wrote in message
news:410b45a6@news.comindico.com.au...
read the manual for the motherboard & usb devices.

I know some devices required software driver to be installed first &
restart, and the devices connect to it after the os is loaded.

The usb devices is probably "fried" during power up.


"mikegw" <mikegw20@hotmail.spammers.must.die.com> wrote in message
news:cecqvi$b5$1@tomahawk.unsw.edu.au...

"Shannell Sugrue" <sjs@nella.net.au> wrote in message
news:4109d737$1@usenet.per.paradox.net.au...
I have a NF7 abit motherboard and a codegen 400w powersupply Ive
broken
2
USB devices so far, a canon i560 printer and a logitech wireless
joystick.
The printer worked fine on other machines, then I plugged it into mine
and
it wasnt recognised by the usb device detect thing, put it back on the
other
machines and same problem, still worked on the parrallel port though
but
I
took it back and got another and the exact same thing happened, canon
verified that a chip had blown. Ive kept this one as it must be at my
end.
Next up is the usb reciever/dongle from my new wireless joystick,
joystick
worked fine then I swapped from the usb connection off a header to the
MB
to
the usb connection at the back of the case, next thing you know
"device
not
recognised" and cant be recognised in any other machine either, and
the
light on the front of the reciever/dongle doesnt work any more
although
Im
not sure if it was on all the time it was plugged in or just when it
detects
a signal. So whats going on here? I have several other devices that
work
fine on any of my usb ports, card readers, wireless access point, ISDN
modem, PDA, drawing tablet etc. Perhaps these 2 devices were more
sensitive
to voltage and got "burnt"? Im reasonably savvy electronically so I
can
run
some tests if anyone has anything they could think of to check? Any
help
appreciated.


I had this happen on one of my usb connectors. The pinout of the usb
header
on the mobo is not standard across all manufacturers. Smart money is
the -ve and +ve pins on the usb port are swapped. The data ones could
be
too but that wont nuke anything. Maybe something's have reverse bias
protection??

HTH

Mike
Click to expand...
 
In article <410c940f$1@usenet.per.paradox.net.au>, sjs@nella.net.au
says...
The joystick wasnt, it was "fried" while the pc was already powered up.
Surely these devices cant be zapped by a normal startup just because of
drivers? the drivers dont even kick in until winxp is loaded, and the
voltage should be constant anyway? Ive got some voltage monitoring software
installed and its at a steady +5.03v ( I presume its the + and not the -)
Click to expand...
If the connectors are hardwired to the motherboard then possibly the
motherboard or connectors are faulty.

If the connectors are in a slot with wires running back to the board,
they could be connected wrongly.

Your MB documentation will show which pins on the motherboard connectors
are which.

Taken from http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/support/XH3243-PINOUT.TXT
The pinouts of the USB sockets are

Socket End

pin
4 3 2 1
-----------
| n n n n |
| -------- |
-----------

Pin Name Description
1 VCC +5VDC
2 D- Data -
3 D+ Data +
4 GND Ground

Measure these with a multimeter to see if the 5V and ground are in the
right place.
 
I went out and bought an Antec power supply today, got a replacement
joystick and so far everything is ok...


"Patrick Dunford" <patrickdunford@nomail.invalid> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b78e580cbcd945f989f7c@news.paradise.net.nz...
In article <410c940f$1@usenet.per.paradox.net.au>, sjs@nella.net.au
says...
The joystick wasnt, it was "fried" while the pc was already powered up.
Surely these devices cant be zapped by a normal startup just because of
drivers? the drivers dont even kick in until winxp is loaded, and the
voltage should be constant anyway? Ive got some voltage monitoring
software
installed and its at a steady +5.03v ( I presume its the + and not
the -)

If the connectors are hardwired to the motherboard then possibly the
motherboard or connectors are faulty.

If the connectors are in a slot with wires running back to the board,
they could be connected wrongly.

Your MB documentation will show which pins on the motherboard connectors
are which.

Taken from http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/support/XH3243-PINOUT.TXT
The pinouts of the USB sockets are

Socket End

pin
4 3 2 1
-----------
| n n n n |
| -------- |
-----------

Pin Name Description
1 VCC +5VDC
2 D- Data -
3 D+ Data +
4 GND Ground

Measure these with a multimeter to see if the 5V and ground are in the
right place.
Click to expand...
 
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