Help me choose an oscilloscope

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Rick

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Hi all

I'm about to buy an oscilloscope (right now, I want chance to use it
to test some stuff before I go back to work in 12 days)

My funds are rather limited, and any not spent on the scope will
likely go to other electronics test gear, of which I don't have much
(I've just got a Fluke multimeter, logic probe and pair of hands).

Please give any advice you can re. reliability, facilities and ease of
use (in that order) of the following choices:

1) Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00

2) Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50

3) Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00

4) Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00

5) Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt’s: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00

These include only a "return within 24 hours of purchase if faulty"
warranty.

I mainly do / want to do digital, PIC, 8051, audio, PC interfacing
(especially ADC/DAC) and digital audio, although I can't rule out some
lower RF (I can't afford more bandwidth though).

The Hitachi would be stretching the budget (a lot) but if it is worth
the extra compared to the others, it's possible.

Please help,
Rick.
 
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:57:07 +0100, Rick <DontPostHere@Home.Net>
wrote:

Hi all

I'm about to buy an oscilloscope (right now, I want chance to use it
to test some stuff before I go back to work in 12 days)

My funds are rather limited, and any not spent on the scope will
likely go to other electronics test gear, of which I don't have much
(I've just got a Fluke multimeter, logic probe and pair of hands).

Please give any advice you can re. reliability, facilities and ease of
use (in that order) of the following choices:

1) Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00

2) Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50

3) Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00

4) Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00

5) Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt’s: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00

These include only a "return within 24 hours of purchase if faulty"
warranty.

I mainly do / want to do digital, PIC, 8051, audio, PC interfacing
(especially ADC/DAC) and digital audio, although I can't rule out some
lower RF (I can't afford more bandwidth though).

The Hitachi would be stretching the budget (a lot) but if it is worth
the extra compared to the others, it's possible.

Please help,
Rick.
They'd all be OK for what you describe; given limited funds, I'd go
with 3). Four traces aren't very useful, and the Phillips scopes are
dull but reliable.

John
 
Rick -

Nobody ever went wrong by buying a Tektronix.


"Rick" <DontPostHere@Home.Net> wrote in message
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Hi all

I'm about to buy an oscilloscope (right now, I want chance to use it
to test some stuff before I go back to work in 12 days)

My funds are rather limited, and any not spent on the scope will
likely go to other electronics test gear, of which I don't have much
(I've just got a Fluke multimeter, logic probe and pair of hands).

Please give any advice you can re. reliability, facilities and ease of
use (in that order) of the following choices:

1) Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00

2) Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50

3) Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00

4) Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00

5) Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt's: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00

These include only a "return within 24 hours of purchase if faulty"
warranty.

I mainly do / want to do digital, PIC, 8051, audio, PC interfacing
(especially ADC/DAC) and digital audio, although I can't rule out some
lower RF (I can't afford more bandwidth though).

The Hitachi would be stretching the budget (a lot) but if it is worth
the extra compared to the others, it's possible.

Please help,
Rick.
 
Just went to their website and the 465 has been discontinued. This doesn't
mean that the 465 isn't a good scope but rather, if you get one and it needs
repair or calibration, you're on your own :)

"Baphomet" <fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote in message
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Rick -

Nobody ever went wrong by buying a Tektronix.


"Rick" <DontPostHere@Home.Net> wrote in message
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Hi all

I'm about to buy an oscilloscope (right now, I want chance to use it
to test some stuff before I go back to work in 12 days)

My funds are rather limited, and any not spent on the scope will
likely go to other electronics test gear, of which I don't have much
(I've just got a Fluke multimeter, logic probe and pair of hands).

Please give any advice you can re. reliability, facilities and ease of
use (in that order) of the following choices:

1) Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00

2) Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50

3) Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00

4) Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00

5) Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt's: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00

These include only a "return within 24 hours of purchase if faulty"
warranty.

I mainly do / want to do digital, PIC, 8051, audio, PC interfacing
(especially ADC/DAC) and digital audio, although I can't rule out some
lower RF (I can't afford more bandwidth though).

The Hitachi would be stretching the budget (a lot) but if it is worth
the extra compared to the others, it's possible.

Please help,
Rick.
 
...about to buy an oscilloscope...
1)Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00
2)Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50
3)Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00
4)Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00
5)Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt?s: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00
I ...want to do digital...
Rick.

I'd go with 3). Four traces aren't very useful...
John Larkin
Disagree on both counts.
For finding those narrow glitches
that are freaking out that digital gizmo,
more bandwidth is always better.
Buy as much as you can afford.

For finding timing errors, more channels are better
(think D flip-flop: input, clock, output, -output, reset).
 
On 21 Aug 2003 11:17:48 -0700, jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote:

...about to buy an oscilloscope...
1)Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00
2)Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50
3)Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00
4)Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00
5)Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt?s: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00
I ...want to do digital...
Rick.

I'd go with 3). Four traces aren't very useful...
John Larkin

Disagree on both counts.
For finding those narrow glitches
that are freaking out that digital gizmo,
more bandwidth is always better.
Buy as much as you can afford.

For finding timing errors, more channels are better
(think D flip-flop: input, clock, output, -output, reset).

Thanks for the response. I was thinking about the multiple channel
facility for digital circuits. I'll try to get to the shop to check
them out, rather than order them.

Rick.
 
On 21 Aug 2003 11:17:48 -0700, jeffm_@email.com (JeffM) wrote:

...about to buy an oscilloscope...
1)Hitachi. V-1070. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Four Channel Portable Scope
with Read Out & Delay. Price Ł225.00
2)Kikusui. COS-6100A. 100MHz. Dual Trace, Five Channel Portable
Scope with Delay. Price Ł187.50
3)Philips. PM 3240X. 50MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay &
TV Triggering. Price Ł85.00
4)Philips. PM 3262. 100MHz. Dual Channel Portable Scope with Delay.
Price Ł125.00
5)Tek. 465. 100MHz. Dual Trace Portable Scope with Delay. C/w:
Opt?s: 04 & 07. Price Ł150.00
I ...want to do digital...
Rick.

I'd go with 3). Four traces aren't very useful...
John Larkin

Disagree on both counts.
For finding those narrow glitches
that are freaking out that digital gizmo,
more bandwidth is always better.
Buy as much as you can afford.

For finding timing errors, more channels are better
(think D flip-flop: input, clock, output, -output, reset).
Well, you just leave one probe in place and move the other around.
That way you can see as many signals as you like. An analog scope
alternates them anyhow, so it never behaves like a logic analyzer.[1]

John

[1] Come to think of it, I've never used one of them either.
 

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