Help Looking for remote controled powerboard with only one s

[John G]

I do some work for disabled people, often children.
I am looking for a Remote Controlled Power board with only 1 socket
and importantly one button for both on and off.
Rules preclude modifying the 240 volt part but the remote control needs
to be modified to enable use of a lrge external switch (Jellybean
Switch) for use by a disabled person.
The Click Powerboard from Bunnings provides the function but is
overkill and the oother 3 sokets have to be ignored.

https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/a49efd14-dbed-4211-9348-f34766ab8832.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/kt749h4

Preferred source is Australia as it must be 240 volt Aus Socket design.

--
John G Sydney.

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"John G" <john.g@green.com> wrote in message
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I do some work for disabled people, often children.
I am looking for a Remote Controlled Power board with only 1 socket and
importantly one button for both on and off.
Rules preclude modifying the 240 volt part but the remote control needs to
be modified to enable use of a lrge external switch (Jellybean Switch) for
use by a disabled person.
The Click Powerboard from Bunnings provides the function but is overkill
and the oother 3 sokets have to be ignored.

https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/a49efd14-dbed-4211-9348-f34766ab8832.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/kt749h4

Preferred source is Australia as it must be 240 volt Aus Socket design.

If you're not in an enormous hurry, keep an eye on Aldi's special purchase
offerings - they have them twice a year in four-packs (one remote with four
buttons, four individual single-socket receivers) for (if memory serves me
right) around $30.

If you're wanting a more regular source, Jaycar have a number of offerings,
though admittedly not precisely what you're after;

http://search.jaycar.com.au/search?w=remote%20power&view=list

Altronics have something probably better suited to your specifications;

http://www.altronics.com.au/p/a0340/

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[Andy Wood]

"Bob Milutinovic" wrote in message
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If you're not in an enormous hurry, keep an eye on Aldi's special purchase
offerings - they have them twice a year in four-packs (one remote with four
buttons, four individual single-socket receivers) for (if memory serves me
right) around $30.

I believe that the remote power point controllers sold by Aldi (branded
Bauhn) are the same as ones available at Bunnings and elsewhere branded
Kambrook. The "indoor" variant sold last time at Aldi certainly looked the
same as the Kambrook ones I have, and this bloke also says they are the
same:
http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php?title=Reverse_engineering_the_RF_protocol_on_a_Kambrook_Power_Point_Controller

The Kambrook/Bauhn remotes do not have one button for each power point, they
have two - one for "on" and one for "off". So, in order to get those to work
using a single button, you would have to come up with a way to get presses
of the large button to alternately "press" the original on and off buttons.
That is certainly do-able (using the info on the site linked to above, you
could even dispense with the original remote altogether), but that might be
getting too complicated.

 

[eco-switch]

Hey John
Why not keep it simple and use an EcoSwitch from ecoswitch.com.au?
No batteries, no codes, no losing the remote.
They're really easy.

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Andy Wood" <woodag@trap.ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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"Bob Milutinovic" wrote in message
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If you're not in an enormous hurry, keep an eye on Aldi's special purchase
offerings - they have them twice a year in four-packs (one remote with
four buttons, four individual single-socket receivers) for (if memory
serves me right) around $30.

I believe that the remote power point controllers sold by Aldi (branded
Bauhn) are the same as ones available at Bunnings and elsewhere branded
Kambrook. The "indoor" variant sold last time at Aldi certainly looked the
same as the Kambrook ones I have, and this bloke also says they are the
same:
http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php?title=Reverse_engineering_the_RF_protocol_on_a_Kambrook_Power_Point_Controller

The Kambrook/Bauhn remotes do not have one button for each power point,
they have two - one for "on" and one for "off". So, in order to get those
to work using a single button, you would have to come up with a way to get
presses of the large button to alternately "press" the original on and off
buttons. That is certainly do-able (using the info on the site linked to
above, you could even dispense with the original remote altogether), but
that might be getting too complicated.

That's an entirely different remote to the one I got with the kits I bought
from Aldi several years ago (late 2009 or early 2010). I must admit I
haven't checked their more recent iterations for changes (as the units I
have are still going strong), so there's a possibility they've "taken one
step forward and two steps back."

Here's the type that I have; http://yak.net.au/i/remotesocket.jpg

The receiver's labelled "Tevion" (not Bauhn), with a URL listed on the
label - www.winplus.com.au. Unfortunately, visiting the WinPlus web site is
an exercise in futility, as it's just a "self-backpatting" web site with no
product info.


--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[Andy Wood]

"Bob Milutinovic" wrote in message
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That's an entirely different remote to the one I got with the kits I bought
from Aldi several years ago (late 2009 or early 2010). I must admit I
haven't checked their more recent iterations for changes (as the units I
have are still going strong), so there's a possibility they've "taken one
step forward and two steps back."

Well, that's Aldi for you. If they sell something once as a special, the
chances are they will sell something similar again, but it won't always be
exactly the same.

The ones I saw at Aldi were on sale earlier this year. When I tried to turn
up something, I found this:

http://bauhnenergysaving.com.au/indoor-power-point-controller.html

Those Bauhn ones were "available from July 5th exclusively at ALDI". Whether
that was July this year I'm not sure, but it could have been around then
when I saw them. Now, my recollection was that what I saw looked exactly the
same as the Kambrook ones I have, but perhaps I was wrong, because what I
found there is not identical to the Kambrook ones. The remote does have
separate buttons for "on" and "off" though.

>Here's the type that I have; http://yak.net.au/i/remotesocket.jpg

The plot thickens!

The power point part of your Tevion one does look like my Kambrooks. And, I
mean exactly the same except that yours has "Tevion" at the top right, while
mine has "Kambrook" printed sideways on the left. The rest of the text on
them could be the same, although I can't quite read the model number in your
photo (the Kambrook model number is RF3399).

However, your remote is completely different to mine. The Kambrook remote
has ten push buttons, five for "on" and five for "off", and also a
four-position slide switch (so one remote can control up to 20 power
points).

The receiver's labelled "Tevion" (not Bauhn), with a URL listed on the
label - www.winplus.com.au. Unfortunately, visiting the WinPlus web site is
an exercise in futility, as it's just a "self-backpatting" web site with no
product info.

Stranger still - the label on my Kambrook remote gives the same winplus URL!
Then to totally confuse things, on the winplus site, under Support/Product
Manuals, I see the instruction manual not for the Tevion or Kambrook
gadgets, but for a Bauhn branded one looking like the one that was
"available from July 5th".

 

[John G]

eco-switch was thinking very hard :

Hey John
Why not keep it simple and use an EcoSwitch from ecoswitch.com.au?
No batteries, no codes, no losing the remote.
They're really easy.

Realy replying to you all, Bob, Andy and Eco Switch. And thanks for you
efforts.

The current crop of switches as have been described are not what we are
looking for because of the 2 button ON/OFF operation.
The older switch from Aldi had only one button for On and Off and was
of the type that someone modified in the past and now people are asking
for more. Of course ALDI don't have them now.
The Beyond Logic solution has promise but I don't have the expertise to
turn the prototype software into a working controller and there does
not seem to be any contact with the author.
The Eco Switch is just a Toggle switch on a cable which could be fine
if the client could operate a toggle.
Below is a link to the type of switch operation needed. In the
Disability sector some of the clients have very poor motor or cognitive
skills and a switch as shown is about their limit. Hence the enquiries.
Thejellybean switch alone costs about $90 and any of the specialised
systems available cost heaps more hence the search for a simple and
ALDI priced radio switch, without getting involved on the 240 volt side
of the device..

http://www.zyteq.com.au/products/switches_and_connectors/jelly_bean_twist_switch

http://tinyurl.com/qbbeozz

--
John G Sydney.

 

[Andy Wood]

I used the "Beyond Logic" info some time ago to build my own transmitter, so
it is not so difficult to do. Making a flea power one that could run for
months on a battery might be a bit more of a challenge.

Having seen that the same power points have been sold with a different
transmitter to the one I have, I did a bit more tinkering yesterday. I found
that the Kambrook power point controllers I have can work either with
separate on/off buttons, or with a toggle action from a single button. The
difference is simply in the code that the remote sends. That means you don't
even have to alternate the code sent to get it to work the way you want it
to.

I was wondering if you could find a remote like the one Bob has, and I got
as far as establishing that the the original manufacturer's part number for
it is SD-UN1-RF (and the one that I have with separate on and off buttons is
SD-UN2-RF). I don't think that will help you though, unless you need 2000 of
them -
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/comen-gavin/product-detailxbHEIkYdXecq/China-Remove-Control-SD-UN1-RF-.html

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2014-10-16, John G <john.g@green.com> wrote:

eco-switch was thinking very hard :

http://www.zyteq.com.au/products/switches_and_connectors/jelly_bean_twist_switch

3.5mm phono plug,

looks like you'd need to add a the toggle action to drive the 2 button
remotes in hardware

there's basically 3 ways to do it.

solid-state (gates and timers)

about 4 dpdt relays.

microcontroller (eg PIC10 or ATtiny13)



umop apisdn

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Andy Wood" <woodag@trap.ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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I used the "Beyond Logic" info some time ago to build my own transmitter,
so it is not so difficult to do. Making a flea power one that could run
for months on a battery might be a bit more of a challenge.

Having seen that the same power points have been sold with a different
transmitter to the one I have, I did a bit more tinkering yesterday. I
found that the Kambrook power point controllers I have can work either
with separate on/off buttons, or with a toggle action from a single
button. The difference is simply in the code that the remote sends. That
means you don't even have to alternate the code sent to get it to work the
way you want it to.

I was wondering if you could find a remote like the one Bob has, and I got
as far as establishing that the the original manufacturer's part number
for it is SD-UN1-RF (and the one that I have with separate on and off
buttons is SD-UN2-RF). I don't think that will help you though, unless you
need 2000 of them -
http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/comen-gavin/product-detailxbHEIkYdXecq/China-Remove-Control-SD-UN1-RF-.html

It might be worthwhile sending the manufacturer a message describing the use
it's intended for - they may well be willing to provide a "product sample"
supply of a dozen or less.

Their home web site is here;
http://www.nbcomen.com.cn/products2.asp?classid=30

Thanks to you providing the actual part number, Google reveals that the
remote's also available in single units from Eastern Europe;

Hungary:
http://elektroexpressz.hu/spd/unas_698601/ET-SD-UN1-RF-Tairanyito-halozati-dugaljhoz
1158 Forints + VAT (though with it being exported, VAT shouldn't be
payable). That equates to just over $5.50 (without postage).

Romania:
http://roelectro.ro/sdun1rf-taviranyito-halozati-dugaljhoz
26590 New Leu = $8.78 (including VAT but excluding postage)

Croatia:
http://elektronika-split.eu/sdun1rf-taviranyito-halozati-dugaljhoz
29.99 Kuna = $5.71 (including VAT but excluding postage)

Getting the remotes separately would allow some money-saving by getting a
multi-pack of receivers from Kambrook and using separate remotes for each
point.

It'd just then be a matter of figuring out how to pair the transmitters to
the receivers, but no doubt there'll be instructions available somewhere
(hold the receiver power button down for X seconds, then hold the
corresponding transmitter button down for Y seconds seems logical).

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom