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B.L. Zebub

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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again until it
had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't seem to
have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies. So does
anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky
 
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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again until it
had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't seem
to
have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies. So
does
anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky
Look at the 5 and 12 Volts at the connector of the HD, preferably with an
O'Scope. Something is probably going on there! If you don't have the
equipment, try swapping out you power supply.
 
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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again until
it
had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't seem
to
have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies. So
does
anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky



Look at the 5 and 12 Volts at the connector of the HD, preferably with an
O'Scope. Something is probably going on there! If you don't have the
equipment, try swapping out you power supply.
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to an O'scope. I
measured the 12 and 5 Volt pins with my meter and they measured 12 and 5V.
This was on a connector without a load. Do you know what sort of voltage
should be present when plugged into a hardrive?

Cheers
Sky
 
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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again until

it

had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't seem

to

have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies. So

does

anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky



Look at the 5 and 12 Volts at the connector of the HD, preferably with an
O'Scope. Something is probably going on there! If you don't have the
equipment, try swapping out you power supply.



Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to an O'scope. I
measured the 12 and 5 Volt pins with my meter and they measured 12 and 5V.
This was on a connector without a load. Do you know what sort of voltage
should be present when plugged into a hardrive?
I've seen HDs get really hot because of a simple problem. The PS fan
isn't sucking the hot air out of the case. Also the HD should have some
room around it for air circulation. No air = hot hard drive.

Cheers
Sky


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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot
and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again until
it
had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't
seem
to
have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies. So
does
anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky



Look at the 5 and 12 Volts at the connector of the HD, preferably with
an
O'Scope. Something is probably going on there! If you don't have the
equipment, try swapping out you power supply.


Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to an O'scope. I
measured the 12 and 5 Volt pins with my meter and they measured 12 and 5V.
This was on a connector without a load. Do you know what sort of voltage
should be present when plugged into a hardrive?

Cheers
Sky
The voltage should not change basicaly, under a load. Maybee a few milli
volts, but that is all. The reason I suggested an O' Scope would be to see
if there was excesive ripple (AC component) or something else out of the
ordinary! The Power Supply in your PC may be overloaded, and can't supply
the current to the HD. The best way would be to try a new Power Supply that
is larger, say a 300W supply. If that is not practicle, try disconnecting
the power plug on something else to lighten the load, FD, CD Rom. It almost
certainly has to be a power supply problem. Another post suggested it may be
a temperature problem! This can certainly be, if the problem arises after
some time, although I don't think so if it happens soon! Does it happen with
the case open? If so, I don't think it is a heat problem! In any case, you
don't want to do it to often!
 
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"B.L. Zebub" <There@Here.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
I recently tried a 20Gb hard drive in my machine, it got really hot
and
after about 3 hours it locked up.
On re-boot the HD was not recognised and was not picked up again
until
it
had cooled down.

When I try the HD in my friends pc it runs a lot cooler and doesn't
seem
to
have a problem.

Both machines are 750Mhz Athlons and both have 240W power supplies.
So
does
anyone have any idea why this is so?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Sky



Look at the 5 and 12 Volts at the connector of the HD, preferably with
an
O'Scope. Something is probably going on there! If you don't have the
equipment, try swapping out you power supply.


Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to an O'scope.
I
measured the 12 and 5 Volt pins with my meter and they measured 12 and
5V.
This was on a connector without a load. Do you know what sort of voltage
should be present when plugged into a hardrive?

Cheers
Sky



The voltage should not change basicaly, under a load. Maybee a few milli
volts, but that is all. The reason I suggested an O' Scope would be to see
if there was excesive ripple (AC component) or something else out of the
ordinary! The Power Supply in your PC may be overloaded, and can't supply
the current to the HD. The best way would be to try a new Power Supply
that
is larger, say a 300W supply. If that is not practicle, try disconnecting
the power plug on something else to lighten the load, FD, CD Rom. It
almost
certainly has to be a power supply problem. Another post suggested it may
be
a temperature problem! This can certainly be, if the problem arises after
some time, although I don't think so if it happens soon! Does it happen
with
the case open? If so, I don't think it is a heat problem! In any case, you
don't want to do it to often!


I've had the hardrive on with the case open and a house fan right next to it
and it still gets hot. I thought that my 240W power supply was probably
inadequate but why would the hardrive get hot if the power supply was too
low? I thought that it would be the other way round , that it would get hot
if it was drawing too much power.
cheers
 

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