Happy St. Patrick's Day.

P

Peter Nolan

Guest
Hello,


St. Patrick isn't a saint at all. He was removed from the official list and
unless he comes up with a few miracles he will never be canonised. For those
of you interested in miracles and so on see what you can find about a real
miracle worker called Padre Pio.
I found this list of St. Patrick's Day parades:

http://www.saintpatricksdayparade.com/parade_dates.htm

We will see clips from the main one down 5th Avenue in Manhattan on our
national TV news bulletins. I have a woolly recollection that gays and
lesbians were banned from taking part a few years ago in that parade but
that is Irish Catholicism at work in it's more sinister form although
homophobia is not exclusive to conservative Irish Catholics by any means.
I see there is a parade in Dallas, Texas.
There's also one in Phoenix, Arizona and I wonder if Jim Thompson, the ol'
goat, will turn out to watch. I doubt it :)

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
 
Peter Nolan wrote:
Hello,


St. Patrick isn't a saint at all.
That's OK, he wasn't Irish either! I think the English Lake District or
southwest Scotland are the current favourite birthplaces. And as for
canonisation, he's in good company with St. Piran, St.Rollox, St. Tudy
and a host of others. But I bet there will be a few prayers said to
Blessed Mary Aikenhead tomorrow morning! And I seem to recall a hymn to
the BVM with the line "She is mighty to de liver". Don't overdo the
sinking bubbles.

Paul Burke
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:33:27 -0000, "Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

[snipped]

Beannachtaí na Féile Pádraig. In éineacht le Naomh Pádraig agus Naomh
Colmcille, is í Naomh Bríde Naomh Éarlamh na hÉireann.

For those
of you interested in miracles and so on see what you can find about a real
miracle worker called Padre Pio.
Bi-location my arse.


--
Syd
 
Paul Burke wrote:
Peter Nolan wrote:

Hello,


St. Patrick isn't a saint at all.


That's OK, he wasn't Irish either! I think the English Lake District or
southwest Scotland are the current favourite birthplaces. And as for
canonisation, he's in good company with St. Piran, St.Rollox, St. Tudy
and a host of others. But I bet there will be a few prayers said to
Blessed Mary Aikenhead tomorrow morning! And I seem to recall a hymn to
the BVM with the line "She is mighty to de liver". Don't overdo the
sinking bubbles.
I think they edited out Nick and Chriss too didn't they?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com
 
"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
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Peter Nolan wrote:
Hello,


St. Patrick isn't a saint at all.

That's OK, he wasn't Irish either! I think the English Lake District or
southwest Scotland are the current favourite birthplaces. And as for
canonisation, he's in good company with St. Piran, St.Rollox, St. Tudy
and a host of others. But I bet there will be a few prayers said to
Blessed Mary Aikenhead tomorrow morning! And I seem to recall a hymn to
the BVM with the line "She is mighty to de liver". Don't overdo the
sinking bubbles.
I was borderline Catholic until they devalued my St. Christopher medal.
 
"Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:yOV5c.1238$qP2.4425@news.indigo.ie...
:
: Hello,
:
: St. Patrick isn't a saint at all. He was removed from the
official list and
: unless he comes up with a few miracles he will never be
canonized. For those
: of you interested in miracles and so on see what you can find
about a real
: miracle worker called Padre Pio.
: I found this list of St. Patrick's Day parades:
:
: http://www.saintpatricksdayparade.com/parade_dates.htm
:
: We will see clips from the main one down 5th Avenue in Manhattan
on our
: national TV news bulletins. I have a woolly recollection that
gays and
: lesbians were banned from taking part a few years ago in that
parade but
: that is Irish Catholicism at work in it's more sinister form
although
: homophobia is not exclusive to conservative Irish Catholics by
any means.
: I see there is a parade in Dallas, Texas.
: There's also one in Phoenix, Arizona and I wonder if Jim
Thompson, the ol'
: goat, will turn out to watch. I doubt it :)
:
: Peter Nolan. Dublin.

St. Patrick's Day isn't about his Catholic beliefs, nor his
reputation for driving the "Snakes" out of Ireland, it's "Green
Beer," "Soda Bread," Colleens dancing and the (Fund Raising)
parties.

Ah yes, Food and dancing go together. All that were at local
parties, none were worried about miracles... Indeed there were
many miracles on the day in question, one was that I actually got
within a hundred yards of a Catholic Church! But I washed it off
when I got home!
 
Peter Nolan wrote:
Hello,

St. Patrick isn't a saint at all. He was removed from the official list and
unless he comes up with a few miracles he will never be canonised. For those
of you interested in miracles and so on see what you can find about a real
miracle worker called Padre Pio.
I found this list of St. Patrick's Day parades:

http://www.saintpatricksdayparade.com/parade_dates.htm

We will see clips from the main one down 5th Avenue in Manhattan on our
national TV news bulletins. I have a woolly recollection that gays and
lesbians were banned from taking part a few years ago in that parade but
that is Irish Catholicism at work in it's more sinister form although
homophobia is not exclusive to conservative Irish Catholics by any means.
I see there is a parade in Dallas, Texas.
There's also one in Phoenix, Arizona and I wonder if Jim Thompson, the ol'
goat, will turn out to watch. I doubt it :)

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
Not surprised; i understand that the island *NEVER* had snakes!
If true, then there are a fair number of liars - or is that a synonym
for "drunks"?
 
"Robert Baer" wrote
: Peter Nolan wrote:
: > Hello,
: > St. Patrick isn't a saint at all.
<snip>
: Not surprised; I understand that the island *NEVER* had
snakes!
: If true, then there are a fair number of liars - or is that a
synonym
: for "drunks"?

It was what the Catholic's called the Druids! That had been the
main religion for a long time. (centuries at least.)
 
"Roger Gt" <not@here.net> wrote in message
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Ah yes, Food and dancing go together. All that were at local
parties, none were worried about miracles... Indeed there were
many miracles on the day in question, one was that I actually got
within a hundred yards of a Catholic Church! But I washed it off
when I got home!

Hello Roger,

After a few days passing you probably won't see this but here goes anyway in
case it does catch your eye.
When you said:

"But I washed it off
when I got home!"
you are talking about the universal emotion of disgust.
The expression for this emotion is displayed by everyone everywhere and is
recognisable to us all independent of culture.
The first thing I'd like to clear up up is that no of us are clean and no
amount of washing will remove the dirt that is in all of no matter how deep
you probe into human nature. It's a phase we apparently have to through and
have been going through for aeons. Handling our feelings of disgust is one
of the great challenges facing us and until we get it right there will
never, I repeat, will never, be peace in our world. There are a handful of
people, some in the UK and a few in the States, who are trying and
succeeding I might add, to understand this all powerful emotion of disgust
and one of them is Dr. Val Curtis of the London School of Hygeine and
Tropical Medicine. I contacted her and she told me she is writing a book but
I've just been to her website and if she has published it I'm sure it would
highlighted which it doesn't appear to be. Here is her website:

http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/dcvbu/staff/val_curtis.htm

If you click on the link about work she has done you will find this link:

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/A/anatomy_disgust/index.html

This was a series of three hour long documentaries about disgust and the
terrible consequences for us when we fail, as we always have done to handle
our reaction to things that disgust us. Hitler used the emotion of disgust
for example to energise the German people and lead them to their own
destruction as well as the destruction of many other people.
The people who have the greatest difficulty handling disgust are what
Americans call white trash a type that is to found in every part of society
and in every country and not just in trailer parks and so on. Disgust is the
driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are extremely
dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he is running
the fifth largest economy in the world!
Unless this kind of thinking comes naturally to you, you may find what I've
just written difficult to understand and the material on the websites as
well.
If that's the case try to think about how you really feel about the intake
of food and water and how after processing the waste material is discharged
through our back passage. How do you really feel about this? When you work
it through you will learn a great deal about yourself! :)

Best Wishes,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
 
"Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Roger Gt" <not@here.net> wrote in message
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Ah yes, Food and dancing go together. All that were at local
parties, none were worried about miracles... Indeed there were
many miracles on the day in question, one was that I actually got
within a hundred yards of a Catholic Church! But I washed it off
when I got home!


Hello Roger,

After a few days passing you probably won't see this but here goes anyway
in
case it does catch your eye.
When you said:

"But I washed it off
when I got home!"

you are talking about the universal emotion of disgust.
The expression for this emotion is displayed by everyone everywhere and is
recognisable to us all independent of culture.
The first thing I'd like to clear up up is that no of us are clean and no
amount of washing will remove the dirt that is in all of no matter how
deep

<SirNip>

Yes riighht !!
Good to see someone is taking that comment seriously.
You must feel SO much better having educated the denizens of this NG to your
somewhat distorted world.


--
Regards ........ Rheilly Phoull
 
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:42:12 -0000, "Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

[snip]

Disgust is the
driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are extremely
dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he is running
the fifth largest economy in the world!
[snip]

Best Wishes,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
And you, Sir, have shit for brains ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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John "Peace for our Time" Kerry, Neville Chamberlain of this Century
 
"Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Roger Gt" <not@here.net> wrote in message
: news:lq16c.11279$xh5.4892@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
:
: > Ah yes, Food and dancing go together. All that were at local
: > parties, none were worried about miracles... Indeed there were
: > many miracles on the day in question, one was that I actually
got
: > within a hundred yards of a Catholic Church! But I washed it
off
: > when I got home!
:
: Hello Roger,
:
: After a few days passing you probably won't see this but here
goes anyway in
: case it does catch your eye.
: When you said:
:
: "But I washed it off
: > when I got home!"
:
: you are talking about the universal emotion of disgust.

No I'm NOT!
Actually it was a joke about the many attempts of the "Fathers" to
convert me (really a big joke that!) My Sister's a Quaker
Minister, my Brother a Mormon Bishop, my aunt a Baptist and my
Nephew a Unitarian. The subject of Religion is forbidden in my
house. I stay away from all the different groups!

I was also remembering the numbers of boys abused by the Church
and the attempts to avoid responsibility.

It is not disgust! I reserve that for anyone who would try to
convince me that my religion is not as good as theirs. To try to
convene me to learn more about their religion! I spent a good
while studying the subject, and will keep my own council on maters
of Religion! I also do not (ever) try to convince anyone to
accept my beliefs!

<snip -- Deleted miss direction.>

What the ???
: Americans call white trash a type that is to found in every part
of society
: and in every country and not just in trailer parks and so on.

Hey, these people are from Ireland, England, Scotland, and Wales!
(Quite a few from all the other venues too!) :)>)

: Disgust is the
: driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are
extremely
: dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he
is running
: the fifth largest economy in the world!

I know. He's the Duly elected (By a landslide) Governor of
California and "He" replaced a real dim bulb!

: Unless this kind of thinking comes naturally to you, you may
find what I've
: just written difficult to understand and the material on the
websites as well.

This kind of thinking is beyond my keen, I'm SANE!

: Peter Nolan. Dublin.

Stick to something you know.
Don't jump to obtuse conclusions.....

I do apologize for omitting an Emoticon!
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:1icr50h8debktph31p5hs39jjdn56vr8fo@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:42:12 -0000, "Peter Nolan"
<nospam@nospam.com>
: wrote:
:
: [snip]
:
: >Disgust is the
: >driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are
extremely
: >dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he
is running
: >the fifth largest economy in the world!
: [snip]
: >
: >Best Wishes,
: >
: >Peter Nolan.
: >Dublin.
: >
: >
:
: And you, Sir, have shit for brains ;-)
:
: ...Jim Thompson


Be gentle, he is from Dublin!!
 
Hello,

I didn't mean to provoke anyone here.
This is a very serious subject and I didn't expect, as I hinted, that you
would understand what it's all about.
Those of you who replied are very volatile for people well used to dealing
calmly with difficult technical problems.
I have no idea why many of Van Gough's/Gogh's paintings are masterpieces but
I accept that they are because gifted painters, as distinct from moronic art
critics, tell me so.
If you do not understand something do what I learned to do after my first
month in university 32 years ago and be honest with yourself that that is
the case because passing comment will only embarass you in the eyes of those
who do.
Like I tried to do and succeeded in doing, none of us are clean. That's just
the way life is and telling me I have "shit for brains" is a reaction that
underlines how unclean you feel inside. Anyone who uses language like that
tells me more about who/what they are than the person they are trying to
cover with the natural filth inside them. As I tried to explain we cannot
have stable human relations until the deeper problems I identified
independently of the investigators in these areas years before I first heard
that there were people interested in these very problems.
I have only ever recorded two things on VCR that I knew I would love to look
at again and again. They are the six series of the best comedy I've ever
seen on TV "3rd Rock From The Sun" where the shows's writers expose the
universal deception in human relations something that is always a joy to me
and "Anatomy of Disgust", three hour long documentaries that I pointed to in
the link I gave earlier but now suspect you didn't bother to look at.
It's a real tragedy that so many people struggle to bash square pegs into
round holes in a futile effort to feel beautiful and every religion with
perhaps the exception of Hinduism has conned gullible folks into thinking
that they can offer them beauty where there is really little beauty there at
all.
I could go on and on but I think you get the general idea of my viewpoint
and bearing in mind that it's a real pleasure for me to think and write
about this stuff try not to get too worked up about things you may not
understand even if you feel a strong reaction. Having a strong reaction
doesn't mean that you understand anything. I react in a very strong way to
the female form, for example, but I have no idea why this is the case. I'm
sure if I had more time I could give you many more examples like this. Can
you think of some examples yourselves?

Best Wishes,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:42:12 -0000, "Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

[snip]

Disgust is the
driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are extremely
dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he is running
the fifth largest economy in the world!
[snip]

Best Wishes,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.



And you, Sir, have shit for brains ;-)

Hello Jim,

Please elaborate. It sounds like you have a touch of constipation!

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
 
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:17:44 -0000, "Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:42:12 -0000, "Peter Nolan" <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

[snip]

Disgust is the
driving emotion of the KKK for example. These people are extremely
dangerous. Arnold Schwarzenegger is one of these people and he is running
the fifth largest economy in the world!
[snip]

Best Wishes,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.



And you, Sir, have shit for brains ;-)


Hello Jim,

Please elaborate. It sounds like you have a touch of constipation!

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
Not me. I just have an aversion to mental cases. PLONK, permanent.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

Throughout the history of this great country there have actually
been people of only two political persuasions: fighters and yellow-
bellies. WE MUST NOT LET THE LATTER PREVAIL IN THE NEXT ELECTION!
 
"Peter Nolan" wrote

: Hello,
: I didn't mean to provoke anyone here.

Then why go into such an inflammatory area / subject?

: This is a very serious subject and I didn't expect, as I hinted,
that you
: would understand what it's all about.

We understand all right. You didn't hint.
To make an assumption that someone will not understand is the
height of arrogant and lacks understanding of you own narrow view
and bias. Perception (for each individual) is their reality, but
not necessarily for the rest of the world. Such redirection and
redefinition of human emotions are a politically correct way to
instill bigotry and distrust. It allows making the unacceptable a
norm. We get a lot of this rubbish in America. It doesn't play
here either!

: Those of you who replied are very volatile for people well used
to dealing
: calmly with difficult technical problems.

This is not a DIFFICULT TECHNICAL problem, it is a created
definition in a sick mind!

: I have no idea why many of Van Gough's/Gogh's paintings are
masterpieces but
: I accept that they are because gifted painters, as distinct from
moronic art
: critics, tell me so.

Not a complete sentence. Van Gough is not the issue, more
redirection.

: If you do not understand something

We ALL understand!

: do what I learned to do after my first
: month in university 32 years ago and
: be honest with yourself that that is the case
: because passing comment will only embarrass
: you in the eyes of those who do.

Who do what? You just did that!
This is a justification for arrogance.
Not something you should admit in public.

: Like I tried to do and succeeded in doing, none of us are clean.
: That's just the way life is and telling me I have "shit for
brains" is a reaction that
: underlines how unclean you feel inside.

Wrong terminology! You may or may not be unclean. I do not know
how often you bathe. However if Jim Thompson says "you have shit
for brains" it is clear to all that "you have shit for brains" and
are not to be dealt with.
FYI: "you have shit for brains" = "uneducated, unprincipled, and
ignorant troll"

: Anyone who uses language like that

IS Concise, accurate, and to the point!

: tells me more about who/what they are than the person they are
trying to
: cover with the natural filth inside them.

What you see is your reflection in the mirror.

: As I tried to explain
: we cannot have stable human relations
: until the deeper problems
: I identified independently
: of the investigators in these areas
: years before I first heard that there were
: people interested in these very problems.

This is the most absurd attempt to justify poor behavior I have
encountered in a long time.
This it a Electronics News Group, not a Psychobabble therapy
session!

: I have only ever recorded two things on VCR
: that I knew I would love to look at again and again.
: They are the six series of the best comedy I've ever
: seen on TV "3rd Rock From The Sun" where the show's writers
expose the
: universal deception in human relations something that is always
a joy to me

It was a lame comedy. Not a sociology study! Learn to separate
reality from an entertainment "escape" show. You must have had
your brains fried watching LEXX!
"Only ever"???? Phd???? Learn to write.....

: and "Anatomy of Disgust", three hour long documentaries that I
pointed to in
: the link I gave earlier but now suspect you didn't bother to
look at.

Oh, I looked. (shudder) A "Civil Engineer" who couldn't get
work and made a career of school and civil service trying to
justify her existence by proclaiming a lack of decorum? I looked!
You actually watch channel 4? Part of your problem. The Vagina
is not dirty, it is part of the whole person.

: It's a real tragedy that so many people struggle to bash square
pegs into
: round holes in a futile effort to feel beautiful and every
religion with
: perhaps the exception of Hinduism has conned gullible folks into
thinking
: that they can offer them beauty where there is really little
beauty there at
: all.

Religion is not about beauty, it's about control! But you didn't
study religion either.

: I could go on and on

Please don't

: but I think you get the general idea of my viewpoint
: and bearing in mind that it's a real pleasure for me to think
and write
: about this stuff

That is a fetish! Something you might work on curing!

: try not to get too worked up about things you may not understand

Again with the sick assumption that you are somehow more informed
or have some magic key to understanding which you go on to refute!

: even if you feel a strong reaction.

Your safe, the reaction will not result in your disembowelment.

: Having a strong reaction doesn't mean that you understand
anything.

Understanding is the nature of the reaction.
"you have shit for brains" is the easiest way to put it.

: I react in a very strong way to the female form, for example,
but I have no idea why this is the case.

Gee, how dumb can you get!

: I'm sure if I had more time I could give you many more examples
like this.

Please don't, rather I think you should seek medical treatment.

: Can you think of some examples yourselves?

Like maybe your sick filthy mind? No, I can't! I'm SANE!

: Best Wishes, Peter Nolan. Dublin.

OBTW: PLONK! Your history!
I felt sorry for you because you seemed so lost, now I know why.
 
Roger Gt wrote:

"you have shit for brains" = "uneducated, unprincipled, and
ignorant troll"
I can't see how you can deduce that Peter is any of those things from
his posts. I'm rather sorry now that I made a facetious comment about
some bits of Catholic lore (I was brought up a Catholic, and so can
quote things only a Catholic will understand- I can still recite Hail
Holy Queen without deviation, hesitation or repetition) in my reply to
his friendly St. Pat's Day message and brought religion, which has very
little to do with the festival, into it. He's understandably upset that
as a result people are denigrating his beliefs.

So apologies to all, and SHUT UP THE LOT OF YOU!!!

Paul Burke
 
DON'T POST TO SCI.ELECTRONICS.DESIGN UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT ELECTRONICS!

Paul Burke wrote:
Roger Gt wrote:

"you have shit for brains" = "uneducated, unprincipled, and
ignorant troll"


I can't see how you can deduce that Peter is any of those things from
his posts. I'm rather sorry now that I made a facetious comment about
some bits of Catholic lore (I was brought up a Catholic, and so can
quote things only a Catholic will understand- I can still recite Hail
Holy Queen without deviation, hesitation or repetition) in my reply to
his friendly St. Pat's Day message and brought religion, which has very
little to do with the festival, into it. He's understandably upset that
as a result people are denigrating his beliefs.

So apologies to all, and SHUT UP THE LOT OF YOU!!!

Paul Burke
 
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