Half a million years ago, humans were building structures made of wood....

[Jan Panteltje]

Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.

 

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[legg]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.

So, what have they done lately?

RL

 

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[Eddy Lee]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:29:33 AM UTC-7, legg wrote:

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Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.

Animals (beavers) were building wooden structures for a long time also.

> So, what have they done lately?

Building wooden HIMARS and tanks.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.

Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

 

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[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
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Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

 

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[John Larkin]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t
copied from nature.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and
cooking food. No animal does that.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:19:10 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research..
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.
You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t
copied from nature.

Sure they were. There were plenty of animals that could impale their attackers with horns. It doesn\'t take a rocket scientist to see that sharp teeth do a number on prey. So there\'re your spears, swords and daggers. The main thing is to concentrate a penetrating force at a point. Anybody who\'s worked with trees has seen or experienced the whiplash effect of energy stored in an elastic material. There\'s your bow and arrow.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and
cooking food. No animal does that.

Those proto-human monkeys did. Fire was all around them. They found wildfire broiled carrion was more palatable than the raw find, and said to themselves \" Hey, we got to figure out how to do this.\" Lightning starts fires with a spark/ flash, maybe that funny flint stone thing that creates sparks could do the same thing, do ya\' think.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.

Baloney. There are lots of instances of herd animals with some alpha something or another herding the whole group around. So the ape people said to themselves \"Hey, we ought to be able to do that too.\"

Humans are just monkeys with an ego.

 

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[jeroen]

On 2023-09-21 19:18, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t
copied from nature.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and
cooking food. No animal does that.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.

Ants farm aphids and fungi. They also capture and keep slaves.
They probably did that long before humanoids appeared.

Jeroen Belleman

 

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:59:00 +0200, jeroen <jeroen@nospam.please>
wrote:

On 2023-09-21 19:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t
copied from nature.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and
cooking food. No animal does that.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.


Ants farm aphids and fungi. They also capture and keep slaves.
They probably did that long before humanoids appeared.

Jeroen Belleman

I doubt that humans learned about farming or slavery from studying
ants.

 

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:16:10 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:59:00 +0200, jeroen <jer...@nospam.please
wrote:
On 2023-09-21 19:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t copied from nature.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and cooking food. No animal does that.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.

Ants farm aphids and fungi. They also capture and keep slaves.
They probably did that long before humanoids appeared.

I doubt that humans learned about farming or slavery from studying ants.

But if ants could work it out for themselves, it clearly wasn\'t all that difficult to invent.

Cooking is more difficult.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

Suzana Herculano-Houzel makes the point that if you want to be a big primate with the same brain-to-boddy mass ration as other primate, you\'ve got to invent cooking if you want to survive.

There\'s no other way you can digest the amount of food that you need to keep that big brain fed in the time you have left over after you have collected it, so inventing cooking is a necessary step in the evolution of the modern human. If we hadn\'t done it, we wouldn\'t be here.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:59:00 +0200, jeroen <jer...@nospam.please
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:01:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42:25 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
Archaeologists discover world\'s oldest wooden structure
Pre-dates Homo sapiens
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230920111301.htm
Summary:
Half a million years ago, earlier than was previously thought possible, humans were building structures made of wood, according to new research.
Birds were building nests too. Beavers, dams.

Right, almost all the early \'innovations\' were imitations of something they saw occurring in nature.

You can\'t know that. Bows and arrows, swords, things like that weren\'t
copied from nature.

Maybe the greatest advance in human development was making fires and
cooking food. No animal does that.

Domestication of animals is a human innovation too.


Ants farm aphids and fungi. They also capture and keep slaves.
They probably did that long before humanoids appeared.

Jeroen Belleman
I doubt that humans learned about farming or slavery from studying
ants.

They learned about what might be edible and inedible by observing what the wildlife was eating.

There\'s a tribe in Africa that discovered by blowing air into a cow\'s rectum, which they do orally, it will produce more milk. They continue the practice to this day. It doesn\'t seem to have gained worldwide acceptance though..

Agriculture was a very slow process of hit and miss:

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2304407120