Guardian Almost Makes Sense...

On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:12:04 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/4/2025 2:03 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 5/4/2025 1:18 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 04 May 2025 09:01:56 -0700, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com
wrote:


which is shocking.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/02/american-
reindustrialization-manufacturing

I would normally hit the \'next\' button when someone links to a
Guardian article, but as you say, they\'re right for once with this
one. Lots of countries in the West were sold the same lie about
swapping manufacturing for services. Mrs Thatcher told the British
that the old \'smoke stack\' industries would have to go abroad and be
replaced by smart services. Those peasants in the Far East, they were
told, would take over all the shitty, manual jobs whilst the British
would get cracking with the clever stuff like manufacturing silicon
chips. Problem was, the peasants in China and Taiwan didn\'t get the
memo. The British lost a huge amount of manufacturing alright, but the
service economy which replaced it was - for the most part - low paid
and low skill. Some economists who could see the issues with this said
at the time: \"we can\'t as a country make a living from shining each
other\'s shoes\" - and that\'s the prediction which *should* have been
listened to.

It wasn\'t the right in the US rioting at the WTO conference in Seattle
in \'99.

The right didn\'t care. Stocks were up, dot com boom was in full swing,
and so long as the cops were beating down some  \"hippies\" it was fine,
ship all the jobs to China, we have a White House blowjob to focus on..

Actually _maybe_ Pat Buchanan piped up about it at the time, I can\'t
recall.

Sort of like JD Vance, Buchanan could write is his own books which were
often insightful in their way, but then the punchline was the usual
disappointing ultranationalist white power gobbledygook.

Vance? White power?

His wife is Indian.

(But my biscuit recipe is better than his.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10VIJjqJIs
 
El 5/5/25 a las 18:15, Edward Rawde escribió:
\"john larkin\" <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in message news:5fih1khu4l190ghdd7490f3tkemklup9pb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 May 2025 12:26:45 +0200, design <soporte@albedo.biz> wrote:

An interesting new family of products. No cloud required. Work in
groups, only power supply needed.

https://www.albedo.biz/products/003/001/

https://www.blog.albedo.biz/images/003_001.jpg

Since it needs power, why not go PoE and dump the RF?

Looks like it\'s designed not to require TCP/IP or other protocol networking.
It uses ESP-NOW (close to WiFi in some sense but reduced in number of
OSI layers, and LoRa. In the first case there is not IP but MAC, the
second is a proprietary protocol.
Not all locations have easy access to wifi or wired networks.
That\'s true. This is what it is designed for...
But it says nothing about the security of the data going over 433 MHz.
The data is encoded and encrypted. Not so safe as using AES or some
standard protocol, but safe enough for a control of local premises.
Using LoRa means that you have to find a proper ratio among length of
messages and safety.
It\'s nice to see a device which doesn\'t assume you\'ll put it on wifi and doesn\'t assume it can contact the manufacturer\'s servers to
report who knows what or try to make you pay a subscription for full function.
We work just for that: first level devices work in an isolated group
doing their job. Nothing else required. Second level adds a HUB, that
manages the group from a single point, still local. But the HUB have the
added task of publishing to an MQTT server in, possibly a Home Assistant
LOCAL server. Finally is up to the user to open HASS to the world trough SSL
 
El 5/5/25 a las 16:33, john larkin escribió:
On Mon, 5 May 2025 12:26:45 +0200, design <soporte@albedo.biz> wrote:

An interesting new family of products. No cloud required. Work in
groups, only power supply needed.

https://www.albedo.biz/products/003/001/

https://www.blog.albedo.biz/images/003_001.jpg

Since it needs power, why not go PoE and dump the RF?
They are intended for sites with no connection and big distances from
nodes. The units being far away (about 1Km) may be powered by some solar
panel and battery, if required.
Remember that LoRa is the radio technology used for medium distance
range (ESP-NOW for shorter distances)
 
\"john larkin\" <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in message news:5fih1khu4l190ghdd7490f3tkemklup9pb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 5 May 2025 12:26:45 +0200, design <soporte@albedo.biz> wrote:

An interesting new family of products. No cloud required. Work in
groups, only power supply needed.

https://www.albedo.biz/products/003/001/

https://www.blog.albedo.biz/images/003_001.jpg

Since it needs power, why not go PoE and dump the RF?

Looks like it\'s designed not to require TCP/IP or other protocol networking.
Not all locations have easy access to wifi or wired networks.
But it says nothing about the security of the data going over 433 MHz.

It\'s nice to see a device which doesn\'t assume you\'ll put it on wifi and doesn\'t assume it can contact the manufacturer\'s servers to
report who knows what or try to make you pay a subscription for full function.

>
 

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