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killicks
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Has anyone had any success in repairing a dead graphics card?
Seems a shame just to bin it
Seems a shame just to bin it
J
Jerry G.
Guest
On the average, without the sophisticated diagnostics equipment, schematics,
technical descriptions, and access to spare parts, it would be impossible to
troubleshoot at the component level. At simply looking at one from a visual
perspective, it looks like almost nothing, but there is a very large amount
of operations that goes on in there.
When considering what it would cost to service any of these cards, it is
much cheaper to buy a new one. This is especially true for the manufacture.
During warranty when these cards come back, at the beginning of the assembly
runs, they are analysed to know why they failed. The customer is given a new
card. The old ones go to the crusher, for retrieval of their composition
for recycling. The manufactures are now complaining that the recycling costs
are also more than the cost of the cards!
The only think you can fix on one of these if it is a visual solder
connections, or a broker connector, and this if you would have the tools to
do the solder work, depending where on the board it is. If you look at the
modern cards, they have lead placement from the devices at 1/100 of an inch
apart, and several hundred leads on each side of the chip. This is not
possible to work on with standard bench type soldering tools.
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Greetings,
Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
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"killicks" <killicks@lineone.net> wrote in message
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Has anyone had any success in repairing a dead graphics card?
Seems a shame just to bin it
technical descriptions, and access to spare parts, it would be impossible to
troubleshoot at the component level. At simply looking at one from a visual
perspective, it looks like almost nothing, but there is a very large amount
of operations that goes on in there.
When considering what it would cost to service any of these cards, it is
much cheaper to buy a new one. This is especially true for the manufacture.
During warranty when these cards come back, at the beginning of the assembly
runs, they are analysed to know why they failed. The customer is given a new
card. The old ones go to the crusher, for retrieval of their composition
for recycling. The manufactures are now complaining that the recycling costs
are also more than the cost of the cards!
The only think you can fix on one of these if it is a visual solder
connections, or a broker connector, and this if you would have the tools to
do the solder work, depending where on the board it is. If you look at the
modern cards, they have lead placement from the devices at 1/100 of an inch
apart, and several hundred leads on each side of the chip. This is not
possible to work on with standard bench type soldering tools.
--
Greetings,
Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG
=========================================
WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com
Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm
=========================================
"killicks" <killicks@lineone.net> wrote in message
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Has anyone had any success in repairing a dead graphics card?
Seems a shame just to bin it
A
Asimov
Guest
"Jerry G." bravely wrote to "All" (26 Nov 03 16:30:14)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: graphics card repair"
JG> From: "Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com>
[,,,]
JG> The only think you can fix on one of these if it is a visual solder
JG> connections, or a broker connector, and this if you would have the
JG> tools to do the solder work, depending where on the board it is. If
JG> you look at the modern cards, they have lead placement from the devices
JG> at 1/100 of an inch apart, and several hundred leads on each side of
JG> the chip. This is not possible to work on with standard bench type
JG> soldering tools.
Not to mention trying to solder to 4-layer (or more) boards. The pcb
just soaks up the heat and still nothing melts.
.... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons.
--- on the heady topic of "Re: graphics card repair"
JG> From: "Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com>
[,,,]
JG> The only think you can fix on one of these if it is a visual solder
JG> connections, or a broker connector, and this if you would have the
JG> tools to do the solder work, depending where on the board it is. If
JG> you look at the modern cards, they have lead placement from the devices
JG> at 1/100 of an inch apart, and several hundred leads on each side of
JG> the chip. This is not possible to work on with standard bench type
JG> soldering tools.
Not to mention trying to solder to 4-layer (or more) boards. The pcb
just soaks up the heat and still nothing melts.
.... This message transmitted on 100% recycled photons.
H
Heinz Schmitz
Guest
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:30:14 -0500, "Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[ .. ]
servicable, and to see them working (!) for us through our lifetime?
If we extrapolate the present trend, in ten years we will push
ten dollars over the counter, receive a gadget we don't even look
at, just to dump it into the bin as soon as we arrive at home.
In twenty years, we'll just have to hand over one dollar every month
without receiving anything for it.
H.
wrote:
[ .. ]
Wouldn't it be fun again to buy fewer things, of higher quality,
servicable, and to see them working (!) for us through our lifetime?
If we extrapolate the present trend, in ten years we will push
ten dollars over the counter, receive a gadget we don't even look
at, just to dump it into the bin as soon as we arrive at home.
In twenty years, we'll just have to hand over one dollar every month
without receiving anything for it.
H.
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ShadowTek
Guest
I have a Verto NVidia GeForce2 MX400 64meg SDRAM PCI graphics card.
The fan seems to be getting gummed up or something.
I hear this sound like a grinding or rubbing coming from what seems to
be the fan on this graphics card.
The sound is mostly noticeable when the computer first starts up.
Then it seems to "break free" and spin without much worrisome noise.
There is still a slight abnormal humm coming from it so I would like
to do something about it.
Are these cards known for getting gummed up fans?
Is there anything I can do about it?
Can this card fan be taken apart, cleaned, and put back together again
without much trouble?
This is an old computer that I plan on keeping as a secondary terminal
but I do not plan on spending any more money on it unless I have to.
The fan seems to be getting gummed up or something.
I hear this sound like a grinding or rubbing coming from what seems to
be the fan on this graphics card.
The sound is mostly noticeable when the computer first starts up.
Then it seems to "break free" and spin without much worrisome noise.
There is still a slight abnormal humm coming from it so I would like
to do something about it.
Are these cards known for getting gummed up fans?
Is there anything I can do about it?
Can this card fan be taken apart, cleaned, and put back together again
without much trouble?
This is an old computer that I plan on keeping as a secondary terminal
but I do not plan on spending any more money on it unless I have to.
S
Swells8044
Guest
The fan will seperate from the card.blow it and the heat sink out.Remember
static is not good for these boards.
Steve
static is not good for these boards.
Steve
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Wayne Tiffany
Guest
I've never worked on a fan specifically on a video card, but I presume they
are the same as a cpu fan. They can be lubed - there is usually a little
sticker covering the top side. Not too difficult to take one apart - the
little plastic retainer clip is the hardest part.
Do a Goggle search on this thread subject "Noisy fan"
and read about the same thing.
WT
"ShadowTek" <a102030405060708@cs.com> wrote in message
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are the same as a cpu fan. They can be lubed - there is usually a little
sticker covering the top side. Not too difficult to take one apart - the
little plastic retainer clip is the hardest part.
Do a Goggle search on this thread subject "Noisy fan"
and read about the same thing.
WT
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Heinz Schmitz
Guest
On 29 Nov 2003 05:50:47 -0800, a102030405060708@cs.com (ShadowTek)
wrote:
fairs and you would not (most probably) be able to reseat the
fan onto the axle with the same precision that the manufacturer
applied.
Unscrew the fan, and take it along as a sample (with the screws),
when you go shopping for a new one, to select the correct replacement.
The holes for the screws are more critical than the connector leads,
because the card with the fan on it has only a limited space available
in the PCI or AGP slot.
Nevertheless it is interesting to take the fan apart, to discover, how
much knowhow and engineering went into it.
Do consider, that a PC in a way can be considered as a modified vacuum
cleaner. Dusty air is sucked in and leaves much cleaner. Fans do
have a limited lifetime. It may even be advisable, to buy two new ones
once you are at it, with one for the shelf.
H.
wrote:
That does imho not make sense. These fans come cheap at eg computer
fairs and you would not (most probably) be able to reseat the
fan onto the axle with the same precision that the manufacturer
applied.
Unscrew the fan, and take it along as a sample (with the screws),
when you go shopping for a new one, to select the correct replacement.
The holes for the screws are more critical than the connector leads,
because the card with the fan on it has only a limited space available
in the PCI or AGP slot.
Nevertheless it is interesting to take the fan apart, to discover, how
much knowhow and engineering went into it.
Do consider, that a PC in a way can be considered as a modified vacuum
cleaner. Dusty air is sucked in and leaves much cleaner
. Fans dohave a limited lifetime. It may even be advisable, to buy two new ones
once you are at it, with one for the shelf.
H.
Guest
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:16:38 +0100, Heinz Schmitz
<HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> wrote:
remove the fan from the heatsink, pull the sticker and put a drop of
oil in.
I've fixed a number of NVidia cards with bad fans by simply blowing
out the dust and oiling the fan. They seem to use a cheap lubricant
that evaporates over time.
-Chris
<HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> wrote:
I don't think he meant disassemble the fan itself. I think he meant
remove the fan from the heatsink, pull the sticker and put a drop of
oil in.
I've fixed a number of NVidia cards with bad fans by simply blowing
out the dust and oiling the fan. They seem to use a cheap lubricant
that evaporates over time.
-Chris
J
James Sweet
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"ShadowTek" <a102030405060708@cs.com> wrote in message
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apart and grease the bearings. I ignored it on mine until it was worn too
badly to fix, I replaced the heatsink/fan assembly with a Thermaltake Blue
Orb I got for $3 on Ebay.
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These fans fail all the time, if you get to them in time you can take them
apart and grease the bearings. I ignored it on mine until it was worn too
badly to fix, I replaced the heatsink/fan assembly with a Thermaltake Blue
Orb I got for $3 on Ebay.
J
James Sweet
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apart, then you can clean the old grease off.
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Really helps to disasemble the fan, you pop a clip ring off and it comes
apart, then you can clean the old grease off.