Good VHDL/Verilog editor?

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Jake Janovetz

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I'm growing increasingly weary of my current editor lot and am in the
market for a new one. What I'd like is something akin to the Visual
Studio editor. You know, syntax highlighting (easy) as well as
on-line lookup for functions/instances, project management, etc.

It would be especially nice if the editor would integrate with the
FPGA primitive libraries so I can get parameters and usage information
just like in Visual Studio.

Visual Slick Edit seems somewhat close, but is pretty rough around the
edges for its price tag. Anyone?

Jake
 
emacs or xemacs with verilog-mode. It's not exactly what you're looking
for, but it has many many great features, including mostly-automatic
netlisting of upper levels in your hierarchy. Search for both using yahoo,
you'll find them. -Stan

"Jake Janovetz" <jakespambox@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm growing increasingly weary of my current editor lot and am in the
market for a new one. What I'd like is something akin to the Visual
Studio editor. You know, syntax highlighting (easy) as well as
on-line lookup for functions/instances, project management, etc.

It would be especially nice if the editor would integrate with the
FPGA primitive libraries so I can get parameters and usage information
just like in Visual Studio.

Visual Slick Edit seems somewhat close, but is pretty rough around the
edges for its price tag. Anyone?

Jake
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I love nedit, free too.

nedit.org has it

Andrew

Jake Janovetz wrote:

I'm growing increasingly weary of my current editor lot and am in the
market for a new one. What I'd like is something akin to the Visual
Studio editor. You know, syntax highlighting (easy) as well as
on-line lookup for functions/instances, project management, etc.

It would be especially nice if the editor would integrate with the
FPGA primitive libraries so I can get parameters and usage information
just like in Visual Studio.

Visual Slick Edit seems somewhat close, but is pretty rough around the
edges for its price tag. Anyone?

Jake
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Jake,

I still like Aldec for design entry. Editor is very much studio editor
like, plus you can run sims right there as well as integrate in the rest
of your tool flow. For the price, I think it is a great value.

Jake Janovetz wrote:

I'm growing increasingly weary of my current editor lot and am in the
market for a new one. What I'd like is something akin to the Visual
Studio editor. You know, syntax highlighting (easy) as well as
on-line lookup for functions/instances, project management, etc.

It would be especially nice if the editor would integrate with the
FPGA primitive libraries so I can get parameters and usage information
just like in Visual Studio.

Visual Slick Edit seems somewhat close, but is pretty rough around the
edges for its price tag. Anyone?

Jake
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Stan Lackey wrote:

emacs or xemacs with verilog-mode. It's not exactly what you're looking
for, but it has many many great features, including mostly-automatic
netlisting of upper levels in your hierarchy. Search for both using
yahoo,
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not to forget the signal completion, complex templates, and things like
semi-automated instantiation and testbench-generation :)
This all is at least true for the XEmacs VHDL-mode.

Regards,
Mario
 
I still like Aldec for design entry. Editor is very much studio editor
like, plus you can run sims right there as well as integrate in the rest
of your tool flow. For the price, I think it is a great value.
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Heh, I appretiate Aldec cos it is not studio-like as opposed to Xilinx's
WebPack. And more feature rich and its level ov integration of different
tools (like jumping to errorous code line and more).
 
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:07:16 -0400, "jakab tanko" <jtanko@ics-ltd.com>
wrote:

Have a look at http://www.ultraedit.com
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jakab
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I use UltraEdit, too. I also run emacs Verilog mode from inside
UltraEdit, in batch mode, to automatically generate port lists, etc.
And I store commonly-used Verilog code snippets as UltraEdit
templates.

Verilog (and VHDL) syntax coloring files are available on the
UltraEdit web site. I also have a Xilinx UCF syntax coloring file; if
anyone needs it, just send e-mail to bp <at> cambriandesign <dot> com.

Bob Perlman
Cambrian Design Works
 
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

and it's free!

--Lee

"Valentin Tihomirov" <valentin@abelectron.com> wrote in message news:<3f7c1470_1@news.estpak.ee>...
I still like Aldec for design entry. Editor is very much studio editor
like, plus you can run sims right there as well as integrate in the rest
of your tool flow. For the price, I think it is a great value.

Heh, I appretiate Aldec cos it is not studio-like as opposed to Xilinx's
WebPack. And more feature rich and its level ov integration of different
tools (like jumping to errorous code line and more).
Click to expand...
 
"Valentin Tihomirov" <valentin@abelectron.com> wrote in message news:<3f7c1470_1@news.estpak.ee>...
I still like Aldec for design entry. Editor is very much studio editor
like, plus you can run sims right there as well as integrate in the rest
of your tool flow. For the price, I think it is a great value.

Heh, I appretiate Aldec cos it is not studio-like as opposed to Xilinx's
WebPack. And more feature rich and its level ov integration of different
tools (like jumping to errorous code line and more).
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Are you saying you think Xilinx's tools are "Visual Studio"-like?
I'll certainly agree that the Xilinx tools are poor at best, but I
wouldn't say they are Studio-like. Coming from a command-line
background, I've never been a big IDE fan. I tried to avoid them at
all costs because they were big, clunky, and just got in the way of
development. Then recently (last two years) I tried Visual Studio
..NET for a software app I needed to write. Within a couple days I
really learned to appreciate the package. It is very
intelligently-designed. Function pop-ups to help remind you of the
return type and parameters of a call are very helpful (I always used
to have a window for editing and a window for 'man' pages
side-by-side.).

Similarly, I recently started using Protel DXP for PCB work after
having used OrCAD, Microsim, Eagle, Allegro, Mentor, and one or two
others. Big difference. Someone actually took the time to design a
piece of software that had function for the people who use it.

If Aldec can do the same, I'll switch. It's a shame Xilinx's tools
couldn't be tweaked a bit better to accomplish similar goals. They're
getting close to the level of integration they need. If they could
combine Visual Studio's editing capabilities with Protel DXP's way of
handling packages and projects, they would be well on their way.
Currently, they provide nothing more than 'make' functionality with
nothing near it's flexibility.

End of my rant...
Jake
 
development. I tried Visual Studio
.NET for a software app I needed to write.
It is very intelligently-designed.
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I have some experiance in developing with Visual Studio. It has reputation
of "Visual Notepad". It is not a visual tool like for ex. Dephi. I with you
to appretiate something IntelliJ Idea like. That is what I can call
"intelligent". WebPack and VS are good editors for entering text and
highlighting keywords. VS cannot exactly determine where function is
declared, neither it can determine errorous line of code from linker. As
well as WebPack doesn't.

Protel DXP is an impressive tool, Aldec is much more specific. However, I
use WebPack due to its zero price. I would avoid Visual Studio as it is too
big (3GB) and clunky notepad.
 
Interesting you wrote this, Valentin -- because I was revisiting
VS.NET this morning trying to decide what features I liked. I
bottom-lined it at the fact that I like the class method and parameter
tooltips. I wished something were availble to me like that under
Matlab and FPGA tools for functions and primitives.

Aside from that, I don't like the project organization nearly as much
as I do under Protel DXP. I actually enjoy using the DXP GUI. I
appreciate a low-price (free for WebPack) product, but I would
certainly pay for a well-designed product that helps me get work done
faster and doesn't force the tool to be in the way.

Matlab is an example of a good tool gone bad. They added this
cheese-ball GUI interface and probably paid good money to develop it.
It just contributed to the bloat of the package and their prices have
skyrocketed ever since.

Jake


"Valentin Tihomirov" <valentin@abelectron.com> wrote in message news:<3f7d51a0$1_1@news.estpak.ee>...
development. I tried Visual Studio
.NET for a software app I needed to write.
It is very intelligently-designed.

I have some experiance in developing with Visual Studio. It has reputation
of "Visual Notepad". It is not a visual tool like for ex. Dephi. I with you
to appretiate something IntelliJ Idea like. That is what I can call
"intelligent". WebPack and VS are good editors for entering text and
highlighting keywords. VS cannot exactly determine where function is
declared, neither it can determine errorous line of code from linker. As
well as WebPack doesn't.

Protel DXP is an impressive tool, Aldec is much more specific. However, I
use WebPack due to its zero price. I would avoid Visual Studio as it is too
big (3GB) and clunky notepad.
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"Jake Janovetz" <jakespambox@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d6ad3144.0310011643.21599fc8@posting.google.com...
I'm growing increasingly weary of my current editor lot and am in the
market for a new one. What I'd like is something akin to the Visual
Studio editor. You know, syntax highlighting (easy) as well as
on-line lookup for functions/instances, project management, etc.

It would be especially nice if the editor would integrate with the
FPGA primitive libraries so I can get parameters and usage information
just like in Visual Studio.

Visual Slick Edit seems somewhat close, but is pretty rough around the
edges for its price tag. Anyone?

Jake
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Codewright. now owned by Borland.
http://www.codewright.com/cwhome75.asp

Give the demo a whirl.
http://www.codewright.com/download
(stingy people, it was a 30 day eval a while back)
(The demo eval key you recieve says its a 30 day key that expires in two weeks)

http://www.codewright.com/support/faq.asp

I've been using it for a few years for c,c+,fortran,java, asm.
Recently for vhdl(last 6 months)

Even with the demo make sure to download the addons.
especially for vhdl and verilog also the visual studio synch plugin.

Alex
 
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