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Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?, I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.
 
`skozzy wrote:

Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?, I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.
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Stay away from anything with four poles if you want durability.

Four pole alternators operate at 3000 rpm. All the good ones are two
pole which operate at 1500rpm -- brushless alternators are the best of
the best.

Can't even remember what make mine is but it's done a well over 30,000
hours and I've never seen inside it. OTOH the Lister ST3 which drives
it is getting a little tired, the old Southern Cross which drove it
previously has long gone to diesel heaven. It's 10kVA -- ie around
8000 watt output. You also need to make sure the engine kW is
adequate for the job -- ST3 is around 14kW at 1500 rpm from memory.

FWIW you can buy good quality secondhand 3kVA gen sets for next to
sweet bugger all in any of the rural areas which have had mains power
connected during the last twenty years.

--
John H

Hotmail is a spam trap, wbuauneirl@ovtcbaq.pbz will reach me if you apply ROT13.
 
"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote


Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?,
I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping
my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.
Click to expand...
Stay away from anything with four poles if you want durability.

Four pole alternators operate at 3000 rpm. All the good ones are two
pole which operate at 1500rpm --


***** Absolute out and out BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
Four pole alternators operate at 1500 RPM for 50 Hz frequency ,two pole
alternators operate at 3000 RPM for 50 Hz.
If you are going to pretend you know something about the subject then
CHECK yours facts before posting.

Brian Goldsmith
 
Brian Goldsmith wrote:

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote


Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?,
I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping
my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.

Stay away from anything with four poles if you want durability.

Four pole alternators operate at 3000 rpm. All the good ones are two
pole which operate at 1500rpm --


***** Absolute out and out BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
Four pole alternators operate at 1500 RPM for 50 Hz frequency ,two pole
alternators operate at 3000 RPM for 50 Hz.
If you are going to pretend you know something about the subject then
CHECK yours facts before posting.
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Yes I got it arse about -- sometimes happens at that time of the day.
Transpose the number of poles and I stand by the rest of it.

My sincere thanks for the correction.

--
John H

Hotmail is a spam trap, wbuauneirl@ovtcbaq.pbz will reach me if you apply ROT13.
 
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:57:45 GMT, "Brian Goldsmith"
<brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote:

"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote


Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?,
I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping
my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.

Stay away from anything with four poles if you want durability.

Four pole alternators operate at 3000 rpm. All the good ones are two
pole which operate at 1500rpm --


***** Absolute out and out BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
Four pole alternators operate at 1500 RPM for 50 Hz frequency ,two pole
alternators operate at 3000 RPM for 50 Hz.
If you are going to pretend you know something about the subject then
CHECK yours facts before posting.

Brian Goldsmith

Without wishing to appear rude John has a very long and excellent
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history of providing useful information to the millions of users of
usenet.
i think we should let him off a little brain fart without sinking the
boot in.

I have a homepage
http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
It may be ordinary but it's better than nothing.
 
"Jim Vatunz" <rot13.snezrewvz@vvarg.arg.nh> wrote

Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?,
I was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping
my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.

Stay away from anything with four poles if you want durability.

Four pole alternators operate at 3000 rpm. All the good ones are two
pole which operate at 1500rpm --


***** Absolute out and out BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!
Four pole alternators operate at 1500 RPM for 50 Hz frequency ,two pole
alternators operate at 3000 RPM for 50 Hz.
If you are going to pretend you know something about the subject then
CHECK yours facts before posting.
Click to expand...


Without wishing to appear rude John has a very long and excellent
history of providing useful information to the millions of users of
usenet.
i think we should let him off a little brain fart without sinking the
boot in.

***** I hate to see what happens if the brain fart had lumps!!!

Brian Goldsmith.
 
I will ask the sales guy to find out if it has four poles or not.


"skozzy" <ask_me_for_my@email.address.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?, I
was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.
Click to expand...
 
"here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?, I
was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.
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Personally I'd buy a larger genset, 3800 watts really isn't all that
much......

We have a 6kVA genset here (downgraded to 5kVA for use in tropics) but
we really dont use it all that often. Power goes off regularly but
rarely for more than 2 hours at a time so its not usually worth the
hassle of setting it up. A larger 3 phase diesel genset connected up
via a transfer switch would be nice but thats talking some serious
$$$. 5kVA really cannot run all that much stuff and has trouble
starting a motor rated at over 2kW, but will keep the food cold and
run lights and things.

A 2 pole genset will operate at 3000 rpm and a 4 pole will operate at
1500 rpm. 4 pole machines are favoured where they will see a lot of
use, when used continously they seem to outlive 2 pole machines. For
emergency standby units, it doesn't matter as much because they dont
usually do many hours anyway. Make sure you buy a quality brand though
and not the cheapest or you will regret it.

Some generators are very loud, ours is pretty much deafening. Even the
urban silenced ones can still be heard a reasonable distance away.
This may or may not matter to you but it does in some areas. Best bet
is to shop around, get something Australian made if possible.

cheers
James
 
"James" <j.l@octa4.net.au> wrote in message
news:9c685cb8.0401311620.5bf21582@posting.google.com...
"here know of any brands of generators to stay away from ?, I
was
looking at the Scorpion Brand, with a watts rating of 3800 for keeping
my
house powered during these ever increasing power outages.




Personally I'd buy a larger genset, 3800 watts really isn't all that
much......

We have a 6kVA genset here (downgraded to 5kVA for use in tropics) but
we really dont use it all that often. Power goes off regularly but
rarely for more than 2 hours at a time so its not usually worth the
hassle of setting it up. A larger 3 phase diesel genset connected up
via a transfer switch would be nice but thats talking some serious
$$$. 5kVA really cannot run all that much stuff and has trouble
starting a motor rated at over 2kW, but will keep the food cold and
run lights and things.

A 2 pole genset will operate at 3000 rpm and a 4 pole will operate at
1500 rpm. 4 pole machines are favoured where they will see a lot of
use, when used continously they seem to outlive 2 pole machines. For
emergency standby units, it doesn't matter as much because they dont
usually do many hours anyway. Make sure you buy a quality brand though
and not the cheapest or you will regret it.

Some generators are very loud, ours is pretty much deafening. Even the
urban silenced ones can still be heard a reasonable distance away.
This may or may not matter to you but it does in some areas. Best bet
is to shop around, get something Australian made if possible.

cheers
James
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The smaller ones made for the marine environment are very quiet, and
reasonably priced to boot. Brand name doesn't come to mind but I can look it
up.

Ken
 
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