gEDA project in EE Times today!

[Stuart Brorson]

"Adherents say the biggest attraction is not so much that the gEDA
tools are free but that they provide an open design system, with files
that will always be readable, source code that's always available and
no licensing hassles. But EDA vendors are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported and lack many of the features of
commercial packages."

Check it out:

http://www.eedesign.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=55301354

As for the "EDA vendors [who] are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported. . . .", well, that's just what
you'd expect them to say, isn't it?

But seriously, when was the last time anybody here got real support
from a low-end vendor, e.g. "EMA Design Automation", anyway? Support?
For low-end tools? When I called those fools from EMA with a segfault
problem in Orcad, I had to give them the preferred work-around, which
they promptly supplied to their other customers. . . . .

Stuart

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:57:42 -0000, Stuart Brorson <sdb@cloud9.net>
wrote:

"Adherents say the biggest attraction is not so much that the gEDA
tools are free but that they provide an open design system, with files
that will always be readable, source code that's always available and
no licensing hassles. But EDA vendors are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported and lack many of the features of
commercial packages."

Check it out:

http://www.eedesign.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=55301354

As for the "EDA vendors [who] are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported. . . .", well, that's just what
you'd expect them to say, isn't it?

But seriously, when was the last time anybody here got real support
from a low-end vendor, e.g. "EMA Design Automation", anyway? Support?
For low-end tools? When I called those fools from EMA with a segfault
problem in Orcad, I had to give them the preferred work-around, which
they promptly supplied to their other customers. . . . .

Stuart

I've been getting rather good support from EMA-EDA, at least for
PSpice.

...Jim Thompson
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[Boris Mohar]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:57:42 -0000, Stuart Brorson <sdb@cloud9.net> wrote:

"Adherents say the biggest attraction is not so much that the gEDA
tools are free but that they provide an open design system, with files
that will always be readable, source code that's always available and
no licensing hassles. But EDA vendors are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported and lack many of the features of
commercial packages."

Check it out:

http://www.eedesign.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=55301354

As for the "EDA vendors [who] are quick to point out that
open-source tools are unsupported. . . .", well, that's just what
you'd expect them to say, isn't it?

But seriously, when was the last time anybody here got real support
from a low-end vendor, e.g. "EMA Design Automation", anyway? Support?
For low-end tools? When I called those fools from EMA with a segfault
problem in Orcad, I had to give them the preferred work-around, which
they promptly supplied to their other customers. . . . .

Stuart

Same here. When I complained that the block drag in Capture did not behave
orthogonaly in all for quadrants I was given a clumsy workaround that
involved block move and not block drag. After couple of back and forth
emails I realized that they were not really interested because it was "sort
of working" After all if I struggled wit it long enough I would have my
schematic the way I wanted it. In the end I was told the "the software is
behaving the way it was designed" No kidding. I am still using that peace
of crap because that is what my customers are using and Orcad/Cadence does
not yet see any competition that is worthy of it. Farming out software
development to India didn't improve things either. Don't get me started.

Regards,

Boris Mohar
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs