GE rant, and oven controll board problem

[George Herold]

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993). The oven stopped
working. When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked. A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”. I wondered why at the time. So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit. The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details. “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven. I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee). Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time. There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled the one connector cable.

Thanks guys, And don’t buy a GE product!

George H.

 

[John Robertson]

George Herold wrote:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993). The oven stopped
working. When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked. A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”. I wondered why at the time. So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit. The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details. “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven. I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee). Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time. There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled the one connector cable.

Thanks guys, And don’t buy a GE product!

George H.

Its almost twenty years old. That is not bad for electronic items to
finally need any service. Do you drive a 1993 car, use it daily, and
expect it to not need service?

Manufacturers generally only stock parts for up to 5 years - after that
you are at the mercy of the aftermarket folks.

At least you found someone willing to fix it!

John :-#)#

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[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

- Franc Zabkar
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[Winston]

Franc Zabkar wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gherold@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

Count yourself lucky, George.

I got an MTBF of 3.5 years out of my Maytag
(JennAir) oven. I cut it up with an oxy torch a couple
weeks ago. Highly recommended repair procedure
for that manufacturer (and highly satisfying).

What Franc said.

http://www.repairclinic.com/
Click on 'Help me find my model number'
(Middle left side of page)

<http://www.repairclinic.com/Range-Stove-Oven-Troubleshooting?red=Range-Stove-Oven-Repair-Help>

Part examples, some are well under $100.
http://www.repairclinic.com/GE-Range-Stove-Oven-Circuit-Board-Or-Timer-Parts

--Winston <-- repairclinic.com. No business relationship but a really happy customer.

 

[Dave Platt]

In article <qfWdnW-AY7zjHj3TnZ2dnUVZ5jCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993). The oven stopped
working. When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked. A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”. I wondered why at the time. So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit. The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details. “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven. I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee). Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time. There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled the one connector cable.

Not uncommon an experience, as I understand it. Finding a
manufacturer which makes parts available for more than a few years
(i.e. for much longer than the law says that they absolutely have to)
is increasingly uncommon. Sears was traditionally pretty good about
this, for their own products, but I don't know how they are at
supplying parts for the other-label products they've been selling in
recent years.

I can appreciate the manufacturers' problem, to an extent... there are
so many models, and the competitive pressure between manufacturers is
so high, that it's hard to manage to stock the unique parts for so
many models for a long time without the overhead cost becoming quite
prohibitive.

My guess is that when a manufacturer arranges to build a new model of
$WHATEVER, they take a good guess at the number of replacement modules
or parts of each type that they're likely to require during the "parts
must be available" period, and bump up their ordering by that much and
no more. Hence, most of the replacement control boards available for
a given model are probably built at the same time as the completed
ovens of that model, and simply stuck into storage (with the
manufacturer having to front the cost for building and storing them).

When they run out, it's probably prohibitively expensive for them to
fire up a whole new production line to build a few dozen or a few
hundred more... and a lot of the original parts they used may no
longer be available, so they'd have to redesign the control board
in order to be able to build it!

I had an experience much like your own last year, with an oven of a
similar age (non-G.E.). It started beeping and flashing a fault code
when it wasn't in use. By googling around a bit I learned that this
is a non-uncommon fault in that model/series, and that the original
board would be extremely expensive to buy if it was even available.

I did the same thing you've decided to do - ship it off to
fixyourboard.com - and they were as good as their name. I got it back
within a week, reinstalled it, and it has worked fine ever since.

If I recall properly, the common sorts of failures on these boards
include:

- Electrolytic capacitors drying out, and either losing capacity or
developing a high series resistance. A capacitor ESR meter could
perhaps identify these.

- Cracked solder joints, due to repeated heating/cooling cycles
putting stress on the joints. Inspection of the board might locate
some of these; wicking the old solder off of suspect joints,
re-fluxing with RMA, and resoldering could fix 'em.

- Some semiconductors in some designs are prone to fail.

If I recall correctly, the fixyourboard service for my model included
replacement of some of the "prone to fail" parts even if they had not
yet failed.

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[Rich Webb]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993). The oven stopped
working. When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked. A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”. I wondered why at the time. So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit. The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details. “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven. I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee). Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time. There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled the one connector cable.

Thanks guys, And don’t buy a GE product!

I was going to recommend these guys. http://www.partselect.com/ Have had
good success with them as an end-user but hitting their menu for GE
oven/stove and looking for controller or control board -- nada.

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 4:24 pm, John Robertson <s...@flippers.com> wrote:

George Herold wrote:
We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).   The oven stopped
working.  When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked.  A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”.  I wondered why at the time.  So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit.   The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details.  “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven.  I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee).   Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time.  There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled  the one connector cable.

Thanks guys,  And don’t buy a GE product!

George H.

Its almost twenty years old. That is not bad for electronic items to
finally need any service. Do you drive a 1993 car, use it daily, and
expect it to not need service?

I've got a '95 Ford van that was just retired... still used to pull a
boat to the lake. An '83 Datsun (now Nissian) pickup truck that gets
work almost every weekend. (But almost always in 4WD low gear.) And
my pride and joy, a '49 Ferguson tractor. 'course there's not to many
IC's on that to fail. :^)

And I can still get parts for all those vehicles.

George H.

Manufacturers generally only stock parts for up to 5 years - after that
you are at the mercy of the aftermarket folks.

Yup that's what I'm learning.

At least you found someone willing to fix it!

John :-#)#

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[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gher...@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The model number of the control board is WB27K5107. I'll go google
for a pic.. well nothing looks quite the same.

George H.

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gher...@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Here's a pic from the repair place.

http://fixyourboard.com/boards/WB27K5107.html

George H.

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 5:24 pm, Winston <Wins...@BigBrother.net> wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gher...@teachspin.com>  put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

Count yourself lucky, George.

I got an MTBF of 3.5 years out of my Maytag
(JennAir) oven.  I cut it up with an oxy torch a couple
weeks ago.  Highly recommended repair procedure
for that manufacturer (and highly satisfying).  

Hah, a big hammer would fun too. The GE repairman said something to
the effect that consumer surveys show people would rather have a
cheaper oven that lasts for 7-10 years, versus one that costs twice as
much and lasts twice as long. We vote everyday with our wallets. I
don't see why I need fancy electronics in my oven. A temperature
sensor and some simple control.

George H.

What Franc said.

http://www.repairclinic.com/
Click on 'Help me find my model number'
(Middle left side of page)

http://www.repairclinic.com/Range-Stove-Oven-Troubleshooting?red=Rang....

Part examples, some are well under $100.http://www.repairclinic.com/GE-Range-Stove-Oven-Circuit-Board-Or-Time...

--Winston <-- repairclinic.com. No business relationship but a really happy customer.

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 6:09 pm, dpl...@radagast.org (Dave Platt) wrote:

In article <qfWdnW-AY7zjHj3TnZ2dnUVZ5jCdn...@giganews.com>,
John Robertson  <s...@flippers.com> wrote:





We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).   The oven stopped
working.  When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked.  A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”.  I wondered why at the time.  So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit.   The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details.  “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven.  I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee).   Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time.  There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled  the one connector cable.

Not uncommon an experience, as I understand it.  Finding a
manufacturer which makes parts available for more than a few years
(i.e. for much longer than the law says that they absolutely have to)
is increasingly uncommon.  Sears was traditionally pretty good about
this, for their own products, but I don't know how they are at
supplying parts for the other-label products they've been selling in
recent years.

I can appreciate the manufacturers' problem, to an extent... there are
so many models, and the competitive pressure between manufacturers is
so high, that it's hard to manage to stock the unique parts for so
many models for a long time without the overhead cost becoming quite
prohibitive.

My guess is that when a manufacturer arranges to build a new model of
$WHATEVER, they take a good guess at the number of replacement modules
or parts of each type that they're likely to require during the "parts
must be available" period, and bump up their ordering by that much and
no more.  Hence, most of the replacement control boards available for
a given model are probably built at the same time as the completed
ovens of that model, and simply stuck into storage (with the
manufacturer having to front the cost for building and storing them).

When they run out, it's probably prohibitively expensive for them to
fire up a whole new production line to build a few dozen or a few
hundred more... and a lot of the original parts they used may no
longer be available, so they'd have to redesign the control board
in order to be able to build it!

I've never bought an oven, they've all come with the house. But I
like a simple appliance that I can repair or have repaired. My granma
had this blender with just one speed. I think it was retired by my
brother long after her death only because the top to the glass
container 'decayed', some sort of plastic. I don't see the need for a
new product every year.

I had an experience much like your own last year, with an oven of a
similar age (non-G.E.).  It started beeping and flashing a fault code
when it wasn't in use.  By googling around a bit I learned that this
is a non-uncommon fault in that model/series, and that the original
board would be extremely expensive to buy if it was even available.

I did the same thing you've decided to do - ship it off to
fixyourboard.com - and they were as good as their name.  I got it back
within a week, reinstalled it, and it has worked fine ever since.

That's very comforting to hear, I was on this other repair website and
that was the reccomendation.

If I recall properly, the common sorts of failures on these boards
include:

-  Electrolytic capacitors drying out, and either losing capacity or
   developing a high series resistance.  A capacitor ESR meter could
   perhaps identify these.

-  Cracked solder joints, due to repeated heating/cooling cycles
   putting stress on the joints.  Inspection of the board might locate
   some of these;  wicking the old solder off of suspect joints,
   re-fluxing with RMA, and resoldering could fix 'em.

I l

-  Some semiconductors in some designs are prone to fail.

If I recall correctly, the fixyourboard service for my model included
replacement of some of the "prone to fail" parts even if they had not
yet failed.

--
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Friends of Jade Warrior home page:  http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
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Yeah I think the best bet is not to screw with it...Send it away to
someone who knows the problems. I've got plenty of other stuff to
do.

Thanks for the nice reply,
George H.

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 20, 6:30 pm, Rich Webb <bbew...@mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold





gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:
We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).   The oven stopped
working.  When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked.  A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”.  I wondered why at the time.  So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit.   The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details.  “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven.  I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee).   Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time.  There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled  the one connector cable.

Thanks guys,  And don’t buy a GE product!

I was going to recommend these guys.http://www.partselect.com/Have had
good success with them as an end-user but hitting their menu for GE
oven/stove and looking for controller or control board -- nada.

--
Rich Webb     Norfolk, VA- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks Rich, with Dave as a satisfied customer I'm happy with the site
I listed.

George H.

 

[Winston]

George Herold wrote:

(...)

The GE repairman said something to
the effect that consumer surveys show people would rather have a
cheaper oven that lasts for 7-10 years, versus one that costs twice as
much and lasts twice as long.

The pity is that the more costly appliances
are actually *less* reliable in a lot of cases!

--Winston

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:05:32 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold@gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gher...@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The model number of the control board is WB27K5107.

Sears have the board listed as "return for repair":
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-number/WB27K5107

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[George Herold]

On Oct 21, 8:48 am, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:05:32 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggher...@gmail.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, Franc Zabkar <fzab...@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
gher...@teachspin.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).

A model number may help.

A photo of the board would be nice, too.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The model number of the control board is WB27K5107.

Sears have the board listed as "return for repair":http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-number/WB27K5107

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Thanks Franc, I'm just going stick with the repair place I found.

George H

 

[John Robertson]

George Herold wrote:

On Oct 20, 4:24 pm, John Robertson <s...@flippers.com> wrote:
George Herold wrote:
We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993). The oven stopped
working. When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked. A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”. I wondered why at the time. So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit. The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details. “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”
So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven. I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!
Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee). Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time. There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled the one connector cable.
Thanks guys, And don’t buy a GE product!
George H.
Its almost twenty years old. That is not bad for electronic items to
finally need any service. Do you drive a 1993 car, use it daily, and
expect it to not need service?

I've got a '95 Ford van that was just retired... still used to pull a
boat to the lake. An '83 Datsun (now Nissian) pickup truck that gets
work almost every weekend. (But almost always in 4WD low gear.) And
my pride and joy, a '49 Ferguson tractor. 'course there's not to many
IC's on that to fail. :^)

And I can still get parts for all those vehicles.

George H.

Yes, you can get car parts from after market suppliers or part
manufacturers for vehicles - hobbiests get into the act after more time
(look at Model T/A parts as an example - Ford has nothing to do with
these parts...) .

Stoves and other appliances are far more reliable than cars and as such
don't support much aftermarket supplies other than the folks you found
or companies like mine where we service obsolete amusement machines (but
not stoves or other home appliances).

John :-#)#

Manufacturers generally only stock parts for up to 5 years - after that
you are at the mercy of the aftermarket folks.

Yup that's what I'm learning.
At least you found someone willing to fix it!

John :-#)#

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[klem kedidelhopper]

On Oct 21, 1:15 pm, John Robertson <s...@flippers.com> wrote:

George Herold wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:24 pm, John Robertson <s...@flippers.com> wrote:
George Herold wrote:
We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).   The oven stopped
working.  When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked.  A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”.  I wondered why at the time.  So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit.   The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details.  “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”
So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven.  I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!
Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee).   Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time.  There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled  the one connector cable.
Thanks guys,  And don’t buy a GE product!
George H.
Its almost twenty years old. That is not bad for electronic items to
finally need any service. Do you drive a 1993 car, use it daily, and
expect it to not need service?

I've got a '95 Ford van that was just retired... still used to pull a
boat to the lake.  An '83 Datsun (now Nissian) pickup truck that gets
work almost every weekend.  (But almost always in 4WD low gear.)  And
my pride and joy, a '49 Ferguson tractor.  'course there's not to many
IC's on that to fail. :^)

And I can still get parts for all those vehicles.

George H.

Yes, you can get car parts from after market suppliers or part
manufacturers for vehicles - hobbiests get into the act after more time
(look at Model T/A parts as an example - Ford has nothing to do with
these parts...) .

Stoves and other appliances are far more reliable than cars and as such
don't support much aftermarket supplies other than the folks you found
or companies like mine where we service obsolete amusement machines (but
not stoves or other home appliances).

John :-#)#



Manufacturers generally only stock parts for up to 5 years - after that
you are at the mercy of the aftermarket folks.

Yup that's what I'm learning.
At least you found someone willing to fix it!

John :-#)#

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I just had to jump in here because this is something very close to my
heart. We used to own a GE refrigerator. I bought this in 1981 at a
special discount when I was a GE employee. In 27 years we experienced
one problem with it. The drain tube from the freezer got plugged up ,
(with frozen crumbs from the freezer), and would not allow the water
to drain properly during the defrost cycles. This minor problem caused
a bit of a leak at times. It didn't really affect the operation of the
unit and we eventually fixed it, (sucked out the line with a turkey
baster) and that was fine. The water however caused a small rust
problem on the bottom of the box under the door. Personally I never
noticed it but my wife, who notices everything was really upset over
this.

Being in the consumer electronics service business I know how stuff is
made today and I was determined to hold on to my old faithful in spite
of the rust. However this became very important to her and when the
kids offered to buy us a new refrigerator for our 25 wedding
anniversary, well, what could I do? So we donated my old friend to the
Boy Scouts and got a new LG. The Lg lasted just three years.

The serviceman told us that he would have to replace the entire sealed
system and even with all that he still couldn't guarantee that he
could actually find the leak or that it wouldn't leak again. Do you
know how many times I've kicked myself in the ass for letting my old
GE go?

I never listen to salesmen because they usually just tell you what you
want to hear however an appliance salesman in Best Buy really put it
in perspective for me when I balked at buying a service contract for
my now, third refrigerator. You see I don't feel that we should have
to pay what amounts to a ransom for the privilege of having something
last more than three years. This guy was an appliance repairman years
before he was a salesman. He agreed with me but added, "you have to
realize that everything that's made today is CRAP. And so you need to
protect yourself when you buy something new".

I've known this for years and have been preaching it to my wife for 33
of them. She's never believed me, until now. We have held on to most
of our old stuff. Some of my TV's have manual tuners but they still
produce stunning pictures. Our GE coffee maker was a wedding present.
It was put in the basement every time we bought a new coffee maker and
brought back out every time one of the new pieces of crap shit the bed
and had to be tossed. This is now our last coffee maker. Now she
finally believes me. But sadly the GE refrigerator is gone and it's
not coming back. The answer is to not to cave in and buy new. "New" is
synonymous with "CRAP". Hold on to your old stuff and fix it as long
as you can. They just don't make em like that any more. Lenny

 

[hrhofmann@att.net]

On Oct 20, 3:06 pm, George Herold <gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:

We have a GE profile electric oven (made in 1993).   The oven stopped
working.  When you pushed the button to turn the oven on the display
just blinked.  A call to the local repair guy, “We don’t service GE
stuff, sorry”.  I wondered why at the time.  So my wife called a GE
repairman and scheduled a visit.   The day before the visit he called
to get the problem details.  “Oh”, he says, “You need a new oven
control board and GE no longer makes it.”

So GE’s idea is that I buy a new oven.  I think I might rather have
hot pokers in my eye’s than buy a GE product!

Anyway I’m sending my board off to Fixyourboard.com tomorrow, ($160
and a two year guarantee).   Now I’ve got the board sitting in front
of me, if anyone here some idea of what to try I could save the money
and time.  There are no obvious blown bits on the board, and I removed
and reinstalled  the one connector cable.

Thanks guys,  And don’t buy a GE product!

George H.

It's almost 19 years old, what do you expect????