FYI: Scamming the scammers - 9900mAhuh?

There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

 

edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
news:a083239b-fb1b-4fc4-a770-02609e76d3d6@googlegroups.com:

There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is
around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in
the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the
misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask
nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i
don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut
me down.

Look, dude. There is ONLY ONE 18650 spec. ALL of the others are
FALSE CLAIMS.

There are exactly ZERO 9900mAhuh batteries ANYWHERE in the world!

Especially since mAhuh is NOT even a value of anything!

 

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 6:01:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
news:a083239b-fb1b-4fc4-a770-02609e76d3d6@googlegroups.com:


There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is
around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in
the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the
misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask
nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i
don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut
me down.



Look, dude. There is ONLY ONE 18650 spec. ALL of the others are
FALSE CLAIMS.

There are exactly ZERO 9900mAhuh batteries ANYWHERE in the world!

Especially since mAhuh is NOT even a value of anything!

Yes, they are all mislabeled as 9900mAh. I asked them to relabeled the items, but they offer half or full refund.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
<a083239b-fb1b-4fc4-a770-02609e76d3d6@googlegroups.com>:

There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes
in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world.
If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you
half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as
well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

My experience with ebay and orders from China and their 'helpdesk' is getting worse and worse.
They used to have had some great stuff.
Now it is all about false advertising..
I recently bought one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392348983753
'Super Had' I have several, the REAL ones are smaller,
and have 0.001 Lux sensitivity and see in the near dark,
great for star gazers I guess.
It arrived, tested it, noisy mess.

A long search only found my real super-had starlight in stock at Aliexpress..
Much more expensive, but it is a great camera for drones and missiles^H^H^H^H^H^H^H and security,
so ordered from Aliexpress.
Arrived last week, turned out same quality as my other good ones, super camera.
Those are much smaller too:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/2052624000.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.21dc4c4dyaJmT2o.

So, I am shifting to Aliexpress (after many hundreds of ebay buys),

I have informed ebay of the bad advertising for 'powerpacks', some sellers just add a zero
to the battery capacity,
Ebay does not give a shit,
I rather deal with the manufacturers directly now, this guy had 500 cameras in stock?

For some small stuff I maybe will keep using ebay.

 

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:05:43 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote in
a083239b-fb1b-4fc4-a770-02609e76d3d6@googlegroups.com>:


There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes
in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world.
If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you
half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as
well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

My experience with ebay and orders from China and their 'helpdesk' is getting worse and worse.
They used to have had some great stuff.
Now it is all about false advertising..

Ebay and sellers don't believe "truth in ads, labels and sales", but i do, and so does the state. To qualify for the Self Generation Incentive Program, the inspector needs to know the actual battery capacities. So, i need to re-certify and relabel them.

I recently bought one of these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/392348983753
'Super Had' I have several, the REAL ones are smaller,
and have 0.001 Lux sensitivity and see in the near dark,
great for star gazers I guess.
It arrived, tested it, noisy mess.

A long search only found my real super-had starlight in stock at Aliexpress..
Much more expensive, but it is a great camera for drones and missiles^H^H^H^H^H^H^H and security,
so ordered from Aliexpress.
Arrived last week, turned out same quality as my other good ones, super camera.
Those are much smaller too:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/2052624000.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.21dc4c4dyaJmT2o.

So, I am shifting to Aliexpress (after many hundreds of ebay buys),

I have informed ebay of the bad advertising for 'powerpacks', some sellers just add a zero
to the battery capacity,
Ebay does not give a shit,
I rather deal with the manufacturers directly now, this guy had 500 cameras in stock?

For some small stuff I maybe will keep using ebay.

I'll keep buying and testing them, and ask for a 50% relabeling fee, or just ship back to them to do it. So far, no seller wants to take them back.

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 6:17:07 PM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down..

How did eBay shut you down?

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:57:22 AM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 6:17:07 PM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

How did eBay shut you down?


Haven't got to that point yet. Eventually, seller might dispute the return request. I guess they can argue that they know they are selling fake stuff and i know i am buying fake stuff. Wondering how would ebay rule on it..

I dispute things all the time. Usually they just give a refund and be done with it. For pricier things they may ask you to take a half refund. I bought some handheld thermometers that have wonky aiming diodes. Half refund.. Bought an indoor/outdoor thermometer that runs on batteries, but has a backlight so you have to walk across the room to turn it on to read it. They didn't say it was back lighted... so full refund, no questions. Amazing.

The vendors shipping from the US try to get returns even when scamming. Bought 18 gauge wire, it's more like 21 gauge. Bought 16 gauge wire, more like 19 gauge (turned out it was the same vendor). 14 gauge wire was ~17 gauge copper clad and 12 gauge wire was 15 gauge. They are in Maryland and I thought about reporting them but it's not like they make it easy to do that.. So I had to get the credit card company involved and got my money back on all but the first order.

Most likely you will not hear back other than a refund. If you lose with ebay, contact your credit card company and don't go into all the background. Just tell them the batteries are listed at 9000 kAh and they are much less which I assume you actually tested? You will get a full refund.

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On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 7:10:39 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 6:17:07 PM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

How did eBay shut you down?

Haven't got to that point yet. Eventually, seller might dispute the return request. I guess they can argue that they know they are selling fake stuff and i know i am buying fake stuff. Wondering how would ebay rule on it.

 

[LM]

In my expedience, Banggood is worse in false advertising. Sellers
thetre there don't know or care what the product is, they just put
fancy words after an another.
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 3:10:18 PM UTC-5, LM wrote:

In my expedience, Banggood is worse in false advertising. Sellers
thetre there don't know or care what the product is, they just put
fancy words after an another.
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:17:02 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:


There are plenty of 9900mAhuh 18650 batteries around. A huh is around 3 minutes in China. 9900mAhuh is equivalent to 500mAh in the rest of the world. If you inform the seller about the misprint (missing uh), they will give you half off. If you ask nicely, they might give you the other half off as well. But i don't want to try too hard on them.

9900mAhuh is around 35c/W, 17c/W or 0c/W. For comparisons:

Samsung, LG: 50c/W
Panasonic, Tesla: 33c/W
Leaf 2G: 25c/W
Leaf 1G: 20c/W

So, half off on 9900mAhuh is reasonable, at least until ebay shut me down.

Bottom line is they will sell what people will buy. Does Banggood have much of a return/refund policy? Ebay is pretty good if you work with them. Although if the shipper says they delivered it and you never see the product they don't have a way of dealing with that. I just had that problem. I tried filing a claim and they literally won't accept it because the shipper said they delivered it two weeks ago. Today I got a voicemail from a neighbor saying it was delivered to them. These are vacations homes so they didn't know until now. It might have been spring before they found it. lol

I'm testing a USB memory stick right now I bought on Aliexpress. $20 with tax and shipping, 256GB. Name brand drives this size are over $40. It's up to 40GB currently. Not sure if the test craps out before it's all written or not. Almost five hours for the full test. Guess I'll know by morning.. Aliexpress has a pretty good track record with me on problem orders.

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