Fun with EV to Vegas...

[Ed Lee]

North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.

Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.

Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ed Lee]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.

Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.
How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

<snip>

Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.

The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Ed Lee]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.

We understand it\'s necessary, but broken chargers every 50 miles won\'t help. As one driver put it mildly, the charging infrastructure is just \"pathetic\".

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 00:05:24 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.

Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

That\'s all hilarious. Thanks.

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:03:27 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.


Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.
How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???
He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.

WTF does Keystone have to do with any of this? How does anything petroleum related have anything to do your insane ideas of BEV driving?

Where do you get your insane ideas?

No, I don\'t really want to know.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.


Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.
How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???
He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.

Biden just assured us that the USA will have all electric cars by
3035. I\'ll keep my Audi until then.

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.
We understand it\'s necessary, but broken chargers every 50 miles won\'t help. As one driver put it mildly, the charging infrastructure is just \"pathetic\".

Yeah, if you depend on second tier charging networks, that\'s what you get. I don\'t have that problem with my car. The Tesla network seems to work pretty well.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 1:34:21 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 03:03:22 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
North bound at Mountain Pass is out. No problem, i\'ll drive pass the center media to the south bound charger. I wonder if that would damage my tires. OK, i\'ll bring the tire repair patch with me.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/308971

Plugshare doesn\'t even know about the up-coming EA and Evgo stations at Primm. I wonder if they will let me tap into the high voltage transformer at the construction site.

No change from months ago. Still out at Jean.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/205833

Well, i have enough batteries (#3, #4 and #5, 3.6kwhr each) to jump from Baker to Vegas, but i need to break open the plastic housing and solder two wires to it. Takes around 15 min each.

They sell for $149 each here, but i got them for less.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265746423218

I got around 100 of them, did 32x for #3. 64x more to go. Plenty of work to do while charging.


Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.
How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???
He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.

Biden just assured us that the USA will have all electric cars by
3035. I\'ll keep my Audi until then.

If you can find gas stations to fuel it. When BEVs become 90% of the cars on the roads, 90% of gas stations will have closed.

But that\'s not what Biden, or anyone else said. This is Larkin\'s misconception of what people say. By 2035 all cars sold in the US will be BEV. There will still be many, many running on the roads then. Larkin knows that. But he\'s the sort that likes to distort what others say, so he can criticize and ridicule.

That\'s what Larkin is about, finding strawmen that he can compare himself to so as to feel better about himself.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ed Lee]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.
We understand it\'s necessary, but broken chargers every 50 miles won\'t help. As one driver put it mildly, the charging infrastructure is just \"pathetic\".
Yeah, if you depend on second tier charging networks, that\'s what you get. I don\'t have that problem with my car. The Tesla network seems to work pretty well.

Yes, Tesla has L2 charging at Primm. It\'s just a problem for every other EV, until the DCFC working at EA and EvGo stations.

I got plans:
Plan A: tap in high voltage transformer at future EA station, next to Tesla.
Plan B: bring several portable batteries in my luggage. Charge my luggage at the hotel/casino next to the slot machines. Cost: +/- 100 bucks, depending on my luck,
Plan GG: Gas Generator gets around 10 miles per gallon, burning on top of the world.
Plan AAA: tow it.

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:08:01 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.
We understand it\'s necessary, but broken chargers every 50 miles won\'t help. As one driver put it mildly, the charging infrastructure is just \"pathetic\".
Yeah, if you depend on second tier charging networks, that\'s what you get. I don\'t have that problem with my car. The Tesla network seems to work pretty well.
Yes, Tesla has L2 charging at Primm. It\'s just a problem for every other EV, until the DCFC working at EA and EvGo stations.

Barstow, Baker, Primm, Las Vegas (multiple). Tesla has been busy. They are about 50 miles apart. But that still might not be close enough for your POS that should never be taken on trips.

I got plans:
Plan A: tap in high voltage transformer at future EA station, next to Tesla.
Plan B: bring several portable batteries in my luggage. Charge my luggage at the hotel/casino next to the slot machines. Cost: +/- 100 bucks, depending on my luck,
Plan GG: Gas Generator gets around 10 miles per gallon, burning on top of the world.
Plan AAA: tow it.

Plan 2: go to jail.

I\'m getting worried that by talking to you about it, I would be considered an enabler.

--

Rick C.

+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ed Lee]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 12:49:20 PM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:08:01 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:25:26 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.
We understand it\'s necessary, but broken chargers every 50 miles won\'t help. As one driver put it mildly, the charging infrastructure is just \"pathetic\".
Yeah, if you depend on second tier charging networks, that\'s what you get. I don\'t have that problem with my car. The Tesla network seems to work pretty well.
Yes, Tesla has L2 charging at Primm. It\'s just a problem for every other EV, until the DCFC working at EA and EvGo stations.
Barstow, Baker, Primm, Las Vegas (multiple). Tesla has been busy. They are about 50 miles apart. But that still might not be close enough for your POS that should never be taken on trips.
I got plans:
Plan A: tap in high voltage transformer at future EA station, next to Tesla.
Plan B: bring several portable batteries in my luggage. Charge my luggage at the hotel/casino next to the slot machines. Cost: +/- 100 bucks, depending on my luck,
Plan GG: Gas Generator gets around 10 miles per gallon, burning on top of the world.
Plan AAA: tow it.
Plan 2: go to jail.

Can\'t take a joke?

> I\'m getting worried that by talking to you about it, I would be considered an enabler.

Not illegal unless i actually do it.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Like FOREVER!

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

You are living in LA LA Land, Bozo. There will NEVER be enough\" grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations\" that last WEEKS! Hours, maybe.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.

Certainly not that senile pervert Lyin\' Biden who can\'t remember the name of the candidate is there to campaign for.

--
Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Bozo, just WHERE do you think the electricity is coming from, anyhow?

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 5:41:59 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:56:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 9:03:27 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:34:03 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:05:28 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
snip
Well, Mr. President, perhaps you can help solve this charging problem.

How is your charging insanity a Presidential level problem???

He is pushing everybody into EV, killing off Keystone XL and DW drilling in GOM. He is also begging Iran and Saudi for more oil, while stopping domestic productions.
The influence on Iran and Saudi Arabia is to deal with the short term problem posed by Russia\'s enthusiasm for invading it\'s neighbours.

The move to electric vehicles and decrease long term oil extraction is to deal with - or at least to slow down - anthropogenic global warming.

It\'s going to take a while before we can invest enough in renewable electricity generation to let us start reducing the amount of fossil carbon we burn for fuel.

Like FOREVER!

If this were said by anybody except Gnatguy one would have to wonder why he said it. Gantguy is an idiot an will say anything to create a rhetorical effect.

Some that investment is going to be in a different grid to distribute electricity from where it is going to be generated in future, and some of it ins in the grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations in renewable output.

You are living in LA LA Land, Bozo. There will NEVER be enough\" grid scale batteries to cope with the short term variations\" that last WEEKS! Hours, maybe.

As if you had a clue.

It\'s a fairly complicated scenario, and not everybody seems to understand what is going on - some of the people who post here don\'t even understand why it is necessary.

Certainly not Joe Biden who can\'t remember the name of the candidate is there to campaign for.

He does seem to slip up more often than most, but he\'s been doing that all his life.

> Hey just WHERE do you think the electricity is coming from, anyhow?

Solar cells and wind turbines? They are the cheapest sources. You have to instal more generating capacity than you need to cover the period when the wind isn\'t blowing all that hard and the are clouds passing in front of the sun, but they are still the cheapest sources even after you\'ve allowed for that.

This has happened fairly recently, long since Gnatguy was able to absorb new information.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney