Free electricity?

[Felix_the_cat]

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com


--
rgds,

Pete
=====

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof with the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-Greens

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Felix_the_cat" <go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

**LOL! Not in this universe.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on
your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that can
be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one
uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

 

[SG1]

"Felix_the_cat" <go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

I have heard of something similar where you have a giant (or large) fence
made of chook wire and an anode at the top & and a cathode bottom of one
end. Works best in a windy area, evidently the wind passing over the wire
causes electrons to flow and it is possible to charge a battery with it. The
obvious problems are
1. no wind
2. thunderstorms.
To prevent backflow a sparkplug was used as well the spark did the charging.
I did not pursue this line as I did not want to burn the place down. HTH

--
rgds,

Pete
=====

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because
they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor
governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof
with the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-Greens

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other
peoples money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"

 

[Felix_the_cat]

"Felix_the_cat"<go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

**LOL! Not in this universe.

In the video a small generator can charge a mobile phone.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof with the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-Greens

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"

 

[Felix_the_cat]

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on
your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that can
be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one
uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power
it? What about using a bigger antenna?

--
rgds,

Pete
=====

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof with the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-Greens

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 10/11/2010 2:18 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

"Felix_the_cat"<go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

**LOL! Not in this universe.



In the video a small generator can charge a mobile phone.

It shows a wire being plugged into a mobile phone. No evidence that that
wire was connected to the device. People have been known to lie to
obtain money.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 10/11/2010 2:24 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on
your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that can
be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one
uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power
it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the region
of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is a scam, pure
and simple.

Sylvia.

 

[David L. Jones]

Felix_the_cat <go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in news:7goCo.1844$MF5.395
@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com:

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this
way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact
on
your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that
can
be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one
uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power
it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Not unless you are talking miniscule (nanoamp order) "energy
harvesting" systems.
This might help explain why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8s3Xjeg0sk

Dave.

 

[AnotherD@rnedSock]

On 10/11/10 1:10 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Felix_the_cat"<go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com


**LOL! Not in this universe.

Of course there is free electricity (unless old Sol starts billing us) it
is called solar power.

Back when I was in Uni we used to have free electricity, courtesy of a much
modified electricity meter. Rare Earth magnets are amazing things - when
properly placed.

 

[atec77]

On 10/11/2010 1:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com


Such things exist but the physics makes the situation such that unless

you have incredibly high energy levels around the genny you get out less
than goes in , it might be viable on the suns surface assuming you survive
Years ago in Luxenburg I saw a string of light glowing well while
unplugged iluminating a cafe' but thats because the local 100kw radio tx
was about 100 metres away

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[DavidW]

Sylvia Else wrote:

On 10/11/2010 2:24 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this
way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact
on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy
that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one
reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure
these days.
So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power
it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the region
of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is a scam,
pure and simple.

You could try getting between high-bandwidth microwave transmission towers.

 

[atec77]

On 10/11/2010 1:44 PM, AnotherD@rnedSock wrote:

On 10/11/10 1:10 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Felix_the_cat"<go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com


**LOL! Not in this universe.



Of course there is free electricity (unless old Sol starts billing us)
it is called solar power.

Back when I was in Uni we used to have free electricity, courtesy of a
much modified electricity meter. Rare Earth magnets are amazing things -
when properly placed.
http://www.squidoo.com/TeslaGenerator

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[atec77]

On 10/11/2010 1:52 PM, DavidW wrote:

Sylvia Else wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:24 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this
way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact
on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy
that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one
reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure
these days.
So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power
it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the region
of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is a scam,
pure and simple.

You could try getting between high-bandwidth microwave transmission towers.


trouble is with syliva anything done to the head has little effect on

the lack of content

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[DavidW]

atec77 wrote:

On 10/11/2010 1:52 PM, DavidW wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:24 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this
way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be
no signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable
impact on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of
energy that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which
is one reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening
pleasure these days.
So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to
power it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the
region of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is
a scam, pure and simple.

You could try getting between high-bandwidth microwave transmission
towers.
trouble is with syliva anything done to the head has little effect on
the lack of content

I didn't mean Sylvia physically. I meant you could collect energy there.

 

[atec77]

On 10/11/2010 2:00 PM, DavidW wrote:

atec77 wrote:
On 10/11/2010 1:52 PM, DavidW wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:24 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:
On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an
antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this
way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be
no signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable
impact on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of
energy that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which
is one reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening
pleasure these days.
So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to
power it? What about using a bigger antenna?

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the
region of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is
a scam, pure and simple.

You could try getting between high-bandwidth microwave transmission
towers.
trouble is with syliva anything done to the head has little effect on
the lack of content

I didn't mean Sylvia physically. I meant you could collect energy there.


But i did

sorta like a blackhole

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[|-|ercules]

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked
this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no signal for the receiver to receive.

That does not follow considering the operation of a light dependant resister.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of
energy that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening
pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

Plenty of people listen to crystal radios, we built ones with a single component
plus earpiece, had old military high impedance headphones, amplifiers...


Jaycar or Leisuretronics had a solar powered hydrogen generator kit. I wondered
if it would scale up for practical fueling purposes, apparently it does.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/01/27/honda-unveils-new-solar-powered-hydrogen-generating-and-fueling/

Beats ethanol!

Herc

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Felix_the_cat" <go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:raoCo.1843$MF5.553@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

"Felix_the_cat"<go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:qYnCo.1842$MF5.168@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...
Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com

**LOL! Not in this universe.



In the video a small generator can charge a mobile phone.

**No, it cannot.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Felix_the_cat" <go_away@not_here.biz> wrote in message
news:7goCo.1844$MF5.395@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com...

On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an antenna,
the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that
technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no
signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on
your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that can be
extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one uses a
crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any
practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power it?
What about using a bigger antenna?

**It's not about size. It's about location. The size of the antenna relates
to the frequency of operation. Your TV enatenna, for example, sucks a minute
amount of energy from the TV transmitters. Think in terms of pico Watts
(10^ -9 Watts). And a TV antenna is not a small device. Location, OTOH, is
vital. It you (could) run an antenna a few hundred kms straight up and
anchor it (somehow) in orbit, you could extract significant amounts of power
by virtue of the antenna 'cutting' the magnetic lines that surround our
planet. Scientists are working on just that. It is WAY beyond the home
constructor. Even the guys at NASA can't yet develop the technology
required. The hurdles are significant.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 10/11/2010 3:50 PM, |-|ercules wrote:

"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.here.invalid> wrote in
On 10/11/2010 2:03 PM, Felix_the_cat wrote:

Is this for real..??

http://www.teslasecret.com



Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked
this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no signal for the receiver to receive.

That does not follow considering the operation of a light dependant resister.




If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of
energy that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening
pleasure these days.

Sylvia.


Plenty of people listen to crystal radios, we built ones with a single component
plus earpiece, had old military high impedance headphones, amplifiers...

People build them out of interest. I did, many years ago. I strongly
doubt that anyont uses them as a practical way of listening to radio
broadcasts.

Jaycar or Leisuretronics had a solar powered hydrogen generator kit. I wondered
if it would scale up for practical fueling purposes, apparently it does.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/01/27/honda-unveils-new-solar-powered-hydrogen-generating-and-fueling/

"which would lower CO2 emissions by using less expensive off-peak
electrical power."

It only lowers CO2 emissions if that off-peak power comes from nuclear
power plants. Otherwise it will usually come from coal.

"During daytime peak power times, the Solar Hydrogen Station can export
renewable electricity to the grid, providing a cost benefit to the
customer, while remaining energy neutral."

Now, while possibly true, that's just plain dishonest. Energy neutrality
is one thing. Carbon neutrality is another. If you're using colar fire
generation at night, and then displacing gas fired generation
(typically) using solar power during the day, then you may be energy
neutral, but there will still be a significant net CO2 production,
because coal fired generation produces more CO2 per unit energy output
than does gas fired generation.

Sylvia.