Ford F 150 Recall...

[Dean Hoffman]

There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
<https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/>
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

 

[Don Y]

On 6/28/2022 1:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

Aren\'t the \"per wheel\" pressures displayed in real-time? Can\'t
the driver notice that a tire is low or, in our case, high (due
to increasing ambient temperatures)?

 

[wmartin]

On 6/28/22 13:37, Dean Hoffman wrote:

There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

Hah, I wish my Tacoma had that \"feature\". Damn light is forever if you
don\'t shell out a lot of money for new transmitters when the batteries
die after about 10 years!

 

[John Doe]

Google Groups garbage...

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There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
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Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 66.2% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

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bnt0lBsLFfmN

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <t9fqvb$16j7b$1@dont-email.me>, wwm@wwmartin.net says...

Hah, I wish my Tacoma had that \"feature\". Damn light is forever if you
don\'t shell out a lot of money for new transmitters when the batteries
die after about 10 years!

Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/28/2022 4:51 PM, Don Y wrote:

On 6/28/2022 1:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
    There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the
low tire pressure warning light.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/

    Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk
around and a tire pressure gauge.

Aren\'t the \"per wheel\" pressures displayed in real-time?  Can\'t
the driver notice that a tire is low or, in our case, high (due
to increasing ambient temperatures)?

Having real-time information on when you\'ve blown a tire can help you
get the car off the road more quickly, and on some low-sitting vehicles
can help prevent further damage to the car

 

[a a]

On Tuesday, 28 June 2022 at 22:51:34 UTC+2, Don Y wrote:

On 6/28/2022 1:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.
Aren\'t the \"per wheel\" pressures displayed in real-time? Can\'t
the driver notice that a tire is low or, in our case, high (due
to increasing ambient temperatures)?

recall is recall
bug is bug

Low quality software resulted in 2 Boeing MAX MCAS crashes
and the latest crash in China

==
MCAS – Boeing 737 MAX Updates
https://www.boeing.com › 737-max-updates › mcas

What does MCAS do? MCAS, or Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, provides consistent airplane handling characteristics in a very specific set of unusual flight conditions. MCAS now contains multiple enhanced protections: Measurements from two Angle of Attack (AOA) sensors will be compared.

MCAS

O MCAS, ou Sistema de Estabilização Automática, oferece características …
Deutsche

Wie funktionierte das MCAS ursprünglich? Vor seiner Weiterentwicklung verließ …

Statements

READ (November 18, 2020): Boeing Responds to FAA Approval to Resume …
SMS Terms

737 MAX. 747-8. 767. 777. 777X. 787. Freighters. Commercial Services. Boeing …

Pokaż wyniki tylko z usługi boeing.com
boeing.com
MCAS
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Statements
SMS Terms
Otwórz witrynę internetową
Boeing: The 737 MAX MCAS Software Enhancement
https://www.boeing.com › commercial › 737max › 737-max...

OverviewBackgroundThe role of MCAS in accidentsDescriptionTechnology readinessScrutinySupporting systemsRunaway stabilizer and manual trim

The Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) is a flight stabilizing program developed by Boeing that became notorious for its role in two fatal accidents of the 737 MAX, which killed all passengers and crew on both flights, 346 people in total. MCAS was first used on Boeing KC-46 Pegasus military air tanker to balance fuel loads, but the aircraft, which was

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

tirsdag den 28. juni 2022 kl. 23.58.28 UTC+2 skrev Ralph Mowery:

In article <t9fqvb$16j7b$1...@dont-email.me>, w...@wwmartin.net says...

Hah, I wish my Tacoma had that \"feature\". Damn light is forever if you
don\'t shell out a lot of money for new transmitters when the batteries
die after about 10 years!



Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.

tens seconds with google find 4 sensors for $30 at walmart.....

 

[a a]

On Wednesday, 29 June 2022 at 00:33:47 UTC+2, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:

tirsdag den 28. juni 2022 kl. 23.58.28 UTC+2 skrev Ralph Mowery:
In article <t9fqvb$16j7b$1...@dont-email.me>, w...@wwmartin.net says...

Hah, I wish my Tacoma had that \"feature\". Damn light is forever if you
don\'t shell out a lot of money for new transmitters when the batteries
die after about 10 years!



Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.
tens seconds with google find 4 sensors for $30 at walmart.....
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[bitrex]

On 6/28/2022 4:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

Most late-model cars will show you the tire pressure of each tire on the
dash display, also.

It\'s annoying when on occasion they rotate the tires but then forget to
reprogram the computer so it knows what wheel which sensor is on, this
requires a tool:

<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083XJSK8K/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B083XJSK8K>

 

[John Doe]

Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting troll is/was flagging off-topic posts
with its copy of my ID, then replies to its own post. Strange but true.

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com> (unlikely but possible)

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Google Groups garbage...

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <32a35bbc-b21d-4a2a-b1a1-aa82f01edfe8n@googlegroups.com>,
langwadt@fonz.dk says...

Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.


tens seconds with google find 4 sensors for $30 at walmart.....

Then how much to get them installed ?

 

[Edward Hernandez]

Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 66.4% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 2478 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
1470 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:35:58 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t9g38u$17air$18@dont-email.me>.

rToaWy18Ll79

 

[Don Y]

On 6/28/2022 4:29 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 6/28/2022 4:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low
tire pressure warning light.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/

Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and
a tire pressure gauge.

Most late-model cars will show you the tire pressure of each tire on the dash
display, also.

It\'s annoying when on occasion they rotate the tires but then forget to
reprogram the computer so it knows what wheel which sensor is on, this requires
a tool:

There are some systems that DON\'T place pressure sensors on the wheels.
They, instead, detect \"low pressure\" by noticing the different rates of
rotation of the tires (based on the ABS sensors). (\"poor mans TPMS\")

These \"self calibrate\", in a sense. Move a low tire and it will see that
the new location is rotating with an effective smaller diameter than the
others and flag *it* as being low (regardless of where it was previously
located)

 

[bitrex]

On 6/28/2022 8:38 PM, Don Y wrote:

On 6/28/2022 4:29 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/28/2022 4:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
    There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the
low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/

    Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk
around and a tire pressure gauge.

Most late-model cars will show you the tire pressure of each tire on
the dash display, also.

It\'s annoying when on occasion they rotate the tires but then forget
to reprogram the computer so it knows what wheel which sensor is on,
this requires a tool:

There are some systems that DON\'T place pressure sensors on the wheels.

To clarify on Chevrolets at least the direct sensors integrated into the
valve stems of the tires; I don\'t know if all brands do that with direct
sensors though but it seems common.

If just the module fails you can usually save the tire by pulling and
de-flating the tire a bit then slipping the new module around the stem &
hopefully can get away without re-balancing the wheel if you do this in
your driveway

They, instead, detect \"low pressure\" by noticing the different rates of
rotation of the tires (based on the ABS sensors).  (\"poor mans TPMS\")

These \"self calibrate\", in a sense.  Move a low tire and it will see that
the new location is rotating with an effective smaller diameter than the
others and flag *it* as being low (regardless of where it was previously
located)

Those used to suck but I guess nowadays some manufacturers like Audi can
get their indirect sensors pretty accurate and they can somehow detect
if all four tires are low or high, also

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 9:05:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 6/28/2022 8:38 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 6/28/2022 4:29 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/28/2022 4:37 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the
low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/

Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk
around and a tire pressure gauge.

Most late-model cars will show you the tire pressure of each tire on
the dash display, also.

It\'s annoying when on occasion they rotate the tires but then forget
to reprogram the computer so it knows what wheel which sensor is on,
this requires a tool:

There are some systems that DON\'T place pressure sensors on the wheels.
To clarify on Chevrolets at least the direct sensors integrated into the
valve stems of the tires; I don\'t know if all brands do that with direct
sensors though but it seems common.

If just the module fails you can usually save the tire by pulling and
de-flating the tire a bit then slipping the new module around the stem &
hopefully can get away without re-balancing the wheel if you do this in
your driveway
They, instead, detect \"low pressure\" by noticing the different rates of
rotation of the tires (based on the ABS sensors). (\"poor mans TPMS\")

These \"self calibrate\", in a sense. Move a low tire and it will see that
the new location is rotating with an effective smaller diameter than the
others and flag *it* as being low (regardless of where it was previously
located)
Those used to suck but I guess nowadays some manufacturers like Audi can
get their indirect sensors pretty accurate and they can somehow detect
if all four tires are low or high, also

I\'ve been told in the Teslas, the sensor is mounted so it passes close to a pickup that both inductively couples for transmitting a signal, but also to supply power to the sensor. That is why the tire pressure won\'t show up until you are something like a quarter mile down the road. It needs a few rotations to fire up the pressure sensor.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:37:44 PM UTC-4, dean...@gmail.com wrote:

There\'s a problem with software on some of them that disables the low tire pressure warning light.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-recalls-2900-ev-f-150-lightning-pickup-trucks-2022-06-27/
Cranky old white hairs like me wonder what\'s wrong with a walk around and a tire pressure gauge.

Sounds like the article states the cold tire pressure was set at 35 psi instead of 42, meaning the low pressure warning threshold is low by about 7 psi, meaning you\'re not going to get a warning for a low pressure that causes loss of control. When Ford says loss of control they really mean it.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/28/2022 03:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <t9fqvb$16j7b$1@dont-email.me>, wwm@wwmartin.net says...

Hah, I wish my Tacoma had that \"feature\". Damn light is forever if you
don\'t shell out a lot of money for new transmitters when the batteries
die after about 10 years!




Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.

The rims I use for the studs in the winter don\'t have sensors so I\'m
used to the light being on. I\'m also used to the slow leaker that needs
airing up every month or so.

The last time I got a new set of tires I foolishly thought I would miss
the ever popular valve stem charge. Nope, they charge for \'rebuilding\'
the transmitter.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/28/2022 05:42 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <32a35bbc-b21d-4a2a-b1a1-aa82f01edfe8n@googlegroups.com>,
langwadt@fonz.dk says...
Same here For what should be a few dollars I was asked for about $ 70
per wheel. Just like the high price of the fobs that many cars are now
using.


tens seconds with google find 4 sensors for $30 at walmart.....



Then how much to get them installed ?

$62.50 per wheel...