For amateur radio operators

[Jason Hsu]

Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
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[Garrett Mace]

"Jason Hsu" <jason_hsu@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f7d9a152.0309251554.57769dd3@posting.google.com...

Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet@@@@@jasonhsu.com

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

 

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
g.ryan@macetech.com mentioned...

"Jason Hsu" <jason_hsu@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f7d9a152.0309251554.57769dd3@posting.google.com...
Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet@@@@@jasonhsu.com

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

I doubt that it would be that high.

"Hsu"

"Gesundheit!"


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[Simon Peacock]

well the other 50% of hams make great sandwiches.

Simon

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
g.ryan@macetech.com mentioned...

"Jason Hsu" <jason_hsu@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f7d9a152.0309251554.57769dd3@posting.google.com...
Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet@@@@@jasonhsu.com

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

I doubt that it would be that high.

"Hsu"

"Gesundheit!"


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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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[Jeffery Schubert]

There are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio. They are
operations, emergency groups, and your home brewers (designer/builder
types). This is not an official stratification but one that you'd come to
pretty quick from experience. Generally, what you are referring to is the
group I've labeled as the home brew crowd. This crowd has been growing
smaller and smaller over the years. Part of the reason at least is that rigs
(ham equipment) has become both increasingly more "feature rich" to the
point that no one is happy with something that is not up to commercial
standards (as to the number of features) coupled with a plethora of every
conceivable box from Japan ... most people buy instead of building. Further
more, these days the bar has been lowered as to what it takes to be a HAM
with a result that most HAMs CAN"T build anything. As a result the condition
of the HAM bands has deteriorated to that of what the citizens band is. The
overall effect is that there is little to attract techies such as engineers
both in equipment as well as the fact that there are few of kindred spirit
to associate with if you do get on. There are a few that tinkers; usually up
well above 1 GHz, but the numbers are small. Over the years I've known EE's
who were also Hams but in numbers I'd have to put it at not 1 in 20 and most
were inactive as to HAM activities.
N5FGS

"Simon Peacock" <nowhere@to.be.found> wrote in message
news:3f73ed38@news.actrix.gen.nz...

well the other 50% of hams make great sandwiches.

Simon

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19dd8b94d83242e798970e@news.dslextreme.com...
In article <FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
g.ryan@macetech.com mentioned...

"Jason Hsu" <jason_hsu@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f7d9a152.0309251554.57769dd3@posting.google.com...
Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet@@@@@jasonhsu.com

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also
EEs.

I doubt that it would be that high.

"Hsu"

"Gesundheit!"


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Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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[ddwyer]

In article <XrDdb.124162$z32.28969@twister.austin.rr.com>, Jeffery
Schubert <jschubert@satx.rr.com> writes

e are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio. They are
operations, emergency groups, and your home brewers (designer/builder
types). This is not an official stratification but one that you'd come to
pretty quick from experience. Generally, what you are referring to is the
group I've labeled as the home brew crowd. This crowd has been growing
smaller and smaller over the years. Part of the reason at least is that rigs
(ham equipment) has become both increasingly more "feature rich" to the
point that no one is happy with something that is not up to commercial
standards (as to the number of features) coupled with a plethora of every
conceivable box from Japan ..

As an engineer on the edge of radio I learned most electronics in the
60s as a builder of radios for swl.
Though I drifted off it was rewarding to note that during the cellular
boom most well paid designers were ham designers/constructors not phd
ees.
--
ddwyer

 

[Tim Shoppa]

"Garrett Mace" <g.ryan@macetech.com> wrote in message news:<FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

Just off the top of my head, thinking of the five hams that were
most influential on me in my young days: A jeweler, a machinist, a
truck driver, an optometrist, and the engineer for a local radio station.

That puts it at one in five. All of them built Heathkits, BTW (then
again, this was 3 or 4 decades ago).

Most EE's I've met wouldn't know which end of a soldering iron to pick up.
Nothing against their SPICE or VLSI design abilities, mind you. Besides,
there's no soldering test to get your ticket

Tim.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jeffery Schubert wrote:

There are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio.

Please. it is not Armature, it is Amateur. An Armature is part of an
electric motor.

--


Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Russell Shaw]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jeffery Schubert wrote:

There are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio.

Please. it is not Armature, it is Amateur. An Armature is part of an
electric motor.

Many amateurs are fossils, from the days when a transmitter was
a *big* and *fast* electric motor hooked to an antenna.

 

[slifkin]

shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) wrote in message news:<bec993c8.0309281619.335641d0@posting.google.com>...

"Garrett Mace" <g.ryan@macetech.com> wrote in message news:<FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

Just off the top of my head, thinking of the five hams that were
most influential on me in my young days: A jeweler, a machinist, a
truck driver, an optometrist, and the engineer for a local radio station.

That puts it at one in five. All of them built Heathkits, BTW (then
again, this was 3 or 4 decades ago).

Most EE's I've met wouldn't know which end of a soldering iron to pick up.
Nothing against their SPICE or VLSI design abilities, mind you. Besides,
there's no soldering test to get your ticket

Tim.
I my case it was the other was the other way round I was licensed

years before I became an EE. I suspect that may be the case with
others.
The most influential people who got me interested in amature radio
were both electronic technicians.
4Z9GDH ex G8HES

 

[Leonard Caillouet]

"Russell Shaw" <rjshaw@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:bvsk41-a42.ln1@main.anatron.com.au...

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jeffery Schubert wrote:

There are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio.

Please. it is not Armature, it is Amateur. An Armature is part of an
electric motor.

Many amateurs are fossils, from the days when a transmitter was
a *big* and *fast* electric motor hooked to an antenna.

Were those also the days when people paid attention to spelling and grammar?

Leonard Caillouet

 

[Asimov]

"Michael A. Terrell" bravely wrote to "All" (29 Sep 03 04:40:54)
--- on the heady topic of "Re: For amateur radio operators"

MAT> From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
MAT> Jeffery Schubert wrote:

There are three tiers of practice within Ham (or Armature) Radio.

MAT> Please. it is not Armature, it is Amateur. An Armature is part of
MAT> an electric motor.

MAT> Michael A. Terrell
MAT> Central Florida


Just be happy he didn't write "Armadillo"!!!

Asimov
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[Leeper]

So thats where all the EE's went when the job market
tanked...lol...comedians!


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In article <FMNcb.26247$pU4.4680@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
g.ryan@macetech.com mentioned...

"Jason Hsu" <jason_hsu@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f7d9a152.0309251554.57769dd3@posting.google.com...
Come join Electrical Engineering Hams at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eeham/

There are more electrical engineering forums than you can shake a
stick at. There are more ham radio forums than you can shake a stick
at. But until now, there have been NO forums dedicated to people who
are both electrical engineers AND ham radio operators. You can think
of Electrical Engineering Hams as the unofficial IEEE Amateur Radio
Society. (No, it has NO offical status whatsoever!)

Jason Hsu, AG4DG
usenet@@@@@jasonhsu.com

I thought it was assumed that no less than 50% of all hams are also EEs.

I doubt that it would be that high.

"Hsu"

"Gesundheit!"


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goes directly to the trash unless you add NOSPAM in the
Subject: line with other stuff. alondra101 <at> hotmail.com
Don't be ripped off by the big book dealers. Go to the URL
that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
http://www.everybookstore.com You'll be glad you did!
Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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