Fluke DMM recommendations?

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DaveC

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Have been using Fluke 73 and 77 handhelds in the field with good results. But
for Christmas I think I'd really like a backlit display under certain
conditions.

I see that the 87 is a common model. How many rev's have there been? It's now
87-V. What's the difference between all of revs? (I might go for a used one,
so I'd like to know how they differ...)

Other models? I don't need any fancy features such as frequency or duty
cycle, just basic VOA and maybe C. But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks), LCD, backlit, and use
common batteries (no proprietaries). 3.5 digit is OK.

Suggestions? Recommendations? Testimonials?

Thanks,
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DaveC wrote:
Have been using Fluke 73 and 77 handhelds in the field with good results. But
for Christmas I think I'd really like a backlit display under certain
conditions.

I see that the 87 is a common model. How many rev's have there been? It's now
87-V. What's the difference between all of revs? (I might go for a used one,
so I'd like to know how they differ...)

Other models? I don't need any fancy features such as frequency or duty
cycle, just basic VOA and maybe C. But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks), LCD, backlit, and use
common batteries (no proprietaries). 3.5 digit is OK.

Suggestions? Recommendations? Testimonials?

Thanks,
Click to expand...
The 87 is an excellent choice--accurate, rugged, all the right features.
I've had one at work and one at home for well over a decade--no
problems. I especially like the 4-1/2 digit option.

Cheers
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:16:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <0001HW.C56FC25301076716B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
DaveC <me@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks)

Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)
Click to expand...
All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?

Everybody else - Agilent, Keithley, BNC, Wavetek - are selling their
names and shipping Chinese junk. The low-end Tek scopes are made in
China, but I think they're still Tek designs.

John
 
In article <0001HW.C56FC25301076716B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
DaveC <me@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks)
Click to expand...
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:16:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <0001HW.C56FC25301076716B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
DaveC <me@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks)

Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?
Click to expand...
Yup. I've seen several on ebay.co.uk. None at the moment though. Maybe
they closed down the supply ? They were too good value !
This looks like one of them on the US site
http://cgi.ebay.com/MINT-IN-BOX-FLUKE-17-MULTMETER-MODEL-17-L@@K_W0QQitemZ120350840419QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081216?IMSfp=TL081216111007r9423

Now try finding it on the Fluke US or UK site.
But here it is
http://assets.fluke.com.cn/fluke/edm_1.htm

Graham
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:500fbb001adave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <0001HW.C56FC25301076716B01AD9AF@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
DaveC <me@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks)

Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

Dave Plowman
Click to expand...
My Fluke 8012A, 45, 87, 89-IV, and 12B dvms all say "Made in the USA".

However, my Fluke 62 ir thermometer says "Made in China".

Bob
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In article <hn5lk49spiiglsmacju9f6mpjj8rlul84o@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?
Click to expand...
I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China. They could
have been wrong, of course - you'd need to see the actual unit to be sure.

Everybody else - Agilent, Keithley, BNC, Wavetek - are selling their
names and shipping Chinese junk. The low-end Tek scopes are made in
China, but I think they're still Tek designs.
Click to expand...
Just because it's designed/made in China doesn't make it junk. They are
perfectly capable of making high quality stuff as well as rubbish. You
need to blame the brand name if they allow crap to be sold using their
logo.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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BobW wrote:

However, my Fluke 62 ir thermometer says "Made in China".
Click to expand...
That could be the protective Porcelain for the sensor, or am I missing
something?

;-)

--
Adrian C
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:500fbf93ccdave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <hn5lk49spiiglsmacju9f6mpjj8rlul84o@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?

I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China. They could
have been wrong, of course - you'd need to see the actual unit to be sure.

Everybody else - Agilent, Keithley, BNC, Wavetek - are selling their
names and shipping Chinese junk. The low-end Tek scopes are made in
China, but I think they're still Tek designs.

Just because it's designed/made in China doesn't make it junk. They are
perfectly capable of making high quality stuff as well as rubbish. You
need to blame the brand name if they allow crap to be sold using their
logo.

--
*Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together? *

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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I second that, the robot produced computer cards for example seem very well
made to me.

Cheers ........... Rheilly P
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?

I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China.
Click to expand...
Who ? CPC ?

They're damn HOT.

Graham
 
Adrian C wrote:

BobW wrote:

However, my Fluke 62 ir thermometer says "Made in China".

That could be the protective Porcelain for the sensor, or am I missing
something?
Click to expand...
Fluke does manufacture an alternate range in China for domestic use.

Graham
 
On Dec 19, 4:03 am, DaveC <m...@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
Have been using Fluke 73 and 77 handhelds in the field with good results. But
for Christmas I think I'd really like a backlit display under certain
conditions.

I see that the 87 is a common model. How many rev's have there been? It's now
87-V. What's the difference between all of revs? (I might go for a used one,
so I'd like to know how they differ...)
Click to expand...
Not much difference between the models. Improved accuracy is the main
thing, and LCD displays have gotten better (bigger digits, better
contrast, better backlight).
The latest 87-V has a slightly different "look" to previous models.

Other models? I don't need any fancy features such as frequency or duty
cycle, just basic VOA and maybe C. But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks), LCD, backlit, and use
common batteries (no proprietaries). 3.5 digit is OK.

Suggestions? Recommendations? Testimonials?
Click to expand...
Stick with either the 70, 170, or 80 series.
Do not touch the big 'data logger" 189 model, they are power hogs and
chew batteries in no time. Don't know about the new 289.

There is big market for used items on Ebay. Some good bargains to be
had.

Dave.
 
On Dec 19, 5:36 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:16:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"

d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <0001HW.C56FC25301076716B01AD...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>,
DaveC <m...@bogusdomain.net> wrote:
But it must be Fluke (tried a good Chinese
meter but found couldn't adjust to its design quirks)

Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?
Click to expand...
The Fluke Chinese "market test" started with the experimental Fluke 19
released in the Asia Pacific market. Used the same chipset as the 87
at the time, and offered unbelievable value for money. It was too good
to be true, most Fluke 19's failed with all sorts of problems.
They learned a few things from that and the 110 series is now a lot
better, but still made in China.

They 170, 80, and higher models are all still made in the US last I
checked. Fluke have been careful to keep their Chinese meters separate
from their US made meter range. Only the US meters have the lifetime
warranty.

Dave.
 
In article <494B12E8.B61A8AB2@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China.

Who ? CPC ?

They're damn HOT.
Click to expand...
That's the one.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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In article <494B1335.BE7528A5@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Adrian C wrote:

BobW wrote:

However, my Fluke 62 ir thermometer says "Made in China".

That could be the protective Porcelain for the sensor, or am I missing
something?

Fluke does manufacture an alternate range in China for domestic use.
Click to expand...
They weren't at 'domestic' prices.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
In article
<ab0ace2b-39b9-44e5-8492-7d70664da08d@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
David L. Jones <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:
Fluke have been careful to keep their Chinese meters separate
from their US made meter range.
Click to expand...
I'd not agree. They don't have any *obvious* differences. Most makers who
do a pro and hobby range use different colours, etc.

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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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Eeyore wrote:
Adrian C wrote:

BobW wrote:

However, my Fluke 62 ir thermometer says "Made in China".
That could be the protective Porcelain for the sensor, or am I missing
something?

Fluke does manufacture an alternate range in China for domestic use.
Click to expand...
Porcelain = China, me tea cup ;-p

--
Adrian C
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China.

Who ? CPC ?

They're damn HOT.

That's the one.
Click to expand...
Got details, model, price etc ?

Graham
 
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news:500fbf93ccdave@davenoise.co.uk...
In article <hn5lk49spiiglsmacju9f6mpjj8rlul84o@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

I got a very good Nicholson 40 W @ 230 V soldering iron that said "made in
Click to expand...
USA"
I recently got a nytech www.nytech.de digital camera, which was ade in
China, and is excellent, Pentax lens, sony CCD, aluminium die cast body,
excellent pictures. Most things now are made in China anyway, the better of
99% of my computer parts:)
ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?

I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China. They could
have been wrong, of course - you'd need to see the actual unit to be sure.

Everybody else - Agilent, Keithley, BNC, Wavetek - are selling their
names and shipping Chinese junk. The low-end Tek scopes are made in
China, but I think they're still Tek designs.

Just because it's designed/made in China doesn't make it junk. They are
perfectly capable of making high quality stuff as well as rubbish. You
need to blame the brand name if they allow crap to be sold using their
logo.

--
Click to expand...
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major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr
 
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:06:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <hn5lk49spiiglsmacju9f6mpjj8rlul84o@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
Think you'll find the Fluke *is* a Chinese meter...;-)

All of my Flukes, including my very nice new 8845A, say
"made in USA."

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/MadeInUSA.JPG

Are any of their low-end things actually Chinese?

I got a flier from an electronics company the other day with some Fluke
models on special offer and that said they were made in China. They could
have been wrong, of course - you'd need to see the actual unit to be sure.

Everybody else - Agilent, Keithley, BNC, Wavetek - are selling their
names and shipping Chinese junk. The low-end Tek scopes are made in
China, but I think they're still Tek designs.

Just because it's designed/made in China doesn't make it junk. They are
perfectly capable of making high quality stuff as well as rubbish. You
need to blame the brand name if they allow crap to be sold using their
logo.
Click to expand...

A lot of people are rebranding the Array boxes...

http://www.array.com.cn/yq-3400e.htm

http://www.berkeleynucleonics.com/products/model_645.html

http://www.keithley.com/products/pulsepatterngenerators/arbwaveform_function_generator/?mn=3390

http://www.picotest.com.tw/product03.html

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=16&q=http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5968-8807EN.pdf&ei=E4ZBSbvnMpGYsAOIo7ifBA&usg=AFQjCNGOy0OeBDaV3zd0vzAUnHeYAvFmqw


I haven't used their arb, but their benchtop DVM (aka Keithley 2100)
*is* junk.

John
 
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