Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

[Don McKenzie]

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009 launched the first major commercial long-term
evolution (LTE) service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in informal tests last year. Verizon
Wireless, which is using narrower spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network, individual subscribers
will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

2. It has less delay. LTE networks have lower latency than earlier cellular systems, so packets are less delayed. This
makes a difference when timing is important, such as when using voice over IP, streaming video or working on a virtual
desktop. Verizon claims LTE cuts latency in half compared with its 3G network, and says LTE subscribers are seeing
latency of about 30 milliseconds.

full story:
http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/377872/five_things_need_know_about_lte/

Cheers Don...

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[Rod Speed]

Don McKenzie wrote:

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009
launched the first major commercial long-term evolution (LTE)
service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in
informal tests last year. Verizon Wireless, which is using narrower
spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network,
individual subscribers will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

Nothing like what FTTP can do.

2. It has less delay. LTE networks have lower latency than earlier
cellular systems, so packets are less delayed. This makes a
difference when timing is important, such as when using voice over
IP, streaming video or working on a virtual desktop. Verizon claims
LTE cuts latency in half compared with its 3G network, and says LTE subscribers are seeing latency of about 30
milliseconds.

Nothing like what FTTP can do.

full story:
http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/377872/five_things_need_know_about_lte/

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 25-Feb-11 5:59 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009
launched the first major commercial long-term evolution (LTE)
service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in
informal tests last year. Verizon Wireless, which is using narrower
spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network,
individual subscribers will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

Nothing like what FTTP can do.

Nearly 06:00.
You slept in again Rod!
Did you bring a late note?



Cheers Don...

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"I'd buy that for a Dollar!".

 

[Rod Speed]

Don McKenzie wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Don McKenzie wrote

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009
launched the first major commercial long-term evolution (LTE)
service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in
informal tests last year. Verizon Wireless, which is using narrower
spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network,
individual subscribers will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream
and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

Nothing like what FTTP can do.

Nearly 06:00.
You slept in again Rod!

Nope, YOU slept in and I commented on your post as soon as I saw it.

There were other posts from me well before that one commenting on your post in here alone.

Did you bring a late note?

Dont need one.

This is no laughing matter, and dont you forget it.

 

[keithr]

On 25/02/2011 5:39 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009
launched the first major commercial long-term evolution (LTE) service,
delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in informal tests last
year. Verizon Wireless, which is using narrower spectrum bands,
estimates that even on a fully loaded network, individual subscribers
will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps
upstream.

i.e. somewhat less than ADSL2 in the real world. Thats great if you are
out and about with a laptop or iPad, but a bit light on for serious work.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr wrote

Don McKenzie wrote

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009
launched the first major commercial long-term evolution (LTE)
service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in
informal tests last year. Verizon Wireless, which is using narrower
spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network,
individual subscribers will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

i.e. somewhat less than ADSL2 in the real world. Thats great if you
are out and about with a laptop or iPad, but a bit light on for serious work.

And fucked for live blueray or better video.

 

[Mauried]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:39:49 +1100, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

Five Things You Need to Know About LTE

1. It really is fast. TeliaSonera, the Swedish carrier that in 2009 launched the first major commercial long-term
evolution (LTE) service, delivered an average downstream speed of 33.4Mbps in informal tests last year. Verizon
Wireless, which is using narrower spectrum bands, estimates that even on a fully loaded network, individual subscribers
will get between 5Mbps and 12Mbps downstream and about 2Mbps to 5Mbps upstream.

2. It has less delay. LTE networks have lower latency than earlier cellular systems, so packets are less delayed. This
makes a difference when timing is important, such as when using voice over IP, streaming video or working on a virtual
desktop. Verizon claims LTE cuts latency in half compared with its 3G network, and says LTE subscribers are seeing
latency of about 30 milliseconds.

full story:
http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/377872/five_things_need_know_about_lte/

Cheers Don...

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Theres nothing in this article that defines what a fully loaded
network is .
How many customers per Basestation.
Wireless is a shared medium and the thruput is ultimately limited by
customers per base station. and in reality , maximum thruput isnt
limited by the technology, but by tower congestion.
ie Carriers oversubscribing their networks.
Ultimately, its economics that dictates maximum thruput, not the
technology.

 

[B J Foster]

On 25/02/2011 10:13 AM, keithr wrote:

a bit light on for serious work.

Such as?

 

[keithr]

On 25/02/2011 8:57 PM, B J Foster wrote:

On 25/02/2011 10:13 AM, keithr wrote:
a bit light on for serious work.

Such as?

Anything more than browsing the odd web site.

 

[B J Foster]

On 25/02/2011 9:05 PM, keithr wrote:

On 25/02/2011 8:57 PM, B J Foster wrote:
On 25/02/2011 10:13 AM, keithr wrote:
a bit light on for serious work.

Such as?

Anything more than browsing the odd web site.

Can you be more specific?

 

[John Tserkezis]

Mauried wrote:

Theres nothing in this article that defines what a fully loaded
network is .
How many customers per Basestation.
Wireless is a shared medium and the thruput is ultimately limited by
customers per base station. and in reality , maximum thruput isnt
limited by the technology, but by tower congestion.
ie Carriers oversubscribing their networks.
Ultimately, its economics that dictates maximum thruput, not the
technology.

I'm kinda shocked you're the only one who mentioned this.

Under test conditions, anyone can make any product go like it shines
out of god's arse.

Under real-life conditions, where it's deployed to many people, it's
paid for out of a limited budget, and is used with sometimes entirely
unpredictable conditions, environments, equipment AND end users, all
bets are off.
--
What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art.

 

[fritz]

"John Tserkezis" <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message news:4d67b880$0$22472$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Mauried wrote:

Theres nothing in this article that defines what a fully loaded
network is .
How many customers per Basestation.
Wireless is a shared medium and the thruput is ultimately limited by
customers per base station. and in reality , maximum thruput isnt
limited by the technology, but by tower congestion.
ie Carriers oversubscribing their networks.
Ultimately, its economics that dictates maximum thruput, not the
technology.

I'm kinda shocked you're the only one who mentioned this.

Under test conditions, anyone can make any product go like it shines
out of god's arse.

Under real-life conditions, where it's deployed to many people, it's
paid for out of a limited budget, and is used with sometimes entirely
unpredictable conditions, environments, equipment AND end users, all
bets are off.
--
What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art.

Yeah, I used the Optus speed test from here (Germany) to the
Sydney server on two occasions. Once I got a download speed
of 6 Mbits/s, the second time it was only 550 kbits/s.

 

[Rod Speed]

John Tserkezis wrote

Mauried wrote

Theres nothing in this article that defines what a fully loaded network is.
How many customers per Basestation.

Wireless is a shared medium and the thruput is ultimately limited by
customers per base station. and in reality , maximum thruput isnt
limited by the technology, but by tower congestion.
ie Carriers oversubscribing their networks.

Ultimately, its economics that dictates maximum thruput, not the technology.

I'm kinda shocked you're the only one who mentioned this.

Don's article did.

Under test conditions, anyone can make any product go like it shines out of god's arse.

Under real-life conditions, where it's deployed to many people, it's paid
for out of a limited budget, and is used with sometimes entirely unpredictable
conditions, environments, equipment AND end users, all bets are off.

Nope, its easy enought to test that too.

 

[John Tserkezis]

Rod Speed wrote:

Under real-life conditions, where it's deployed to many people, it's paid
for out of a limited budget, and is used with sometimes entirely unpredictable
conditions, environments, equipment AND end users, all bets are off.

Nope, its easy enought to test that too.

But that's part of the problem. They're selling this to us and quoting
figures before it's even been installed.

OS installations are a better guide as to how it's going to go, though
from what I remember, the early tests were touted as brilliant to
everyone except the few end users who were testing it.
--
Hard work never killed anyone, but why chance it?

 

[Rod Speed]

John Tserkezis wrote

Rod Speed wrote
John Tserkezis wrote

Under real-life conditions, where it's deployed to many people,
it's paid for out of a limited budget, and is used with sometimes
entirely unpredictable conditions, environments, equipment AND
end users, all bets are off.

Nope, its easy enought to test that too.

But that's part of the problem.

Nope.

They're selling this to us and quoting figures before it's even been installed.

Thats a lie. There is plenty of LTE installed world wide.

OS installations are a better guide as to how it's going to go,

Yes, just because they arent in this country is irrelevant.

though from what I remember, the early tests were touted as
brilliant to everyone except the few end users who were testing it.

Irrelevant to how it actually performs with many using it at once.

 

[terryc]

John Tserkezis wrote:

OS installations are a better guide as to how it's going to go,

Only if you know all the conditions. Some countries have comms that make
ours seem absolutely magnificant and that includes many places in the USA.