FED LOG availability?

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Don Lancaster

Guest
What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's are extremely useful for
identifying military and other gear. There is no obvious free website
with this tax-dollar-paid-for info available.

The few sites where the info is offered are obscenely expensive and
arrogant.

There IS a $18 CHAR DATA 3-CD set you can get, but it only has the
barest of limited NIIN info on it. For instance, a circuit breaker has
as its entire description "APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF POLES - ONE."

The "good stuff" that includes vendor addresses and product ages and how
may were bought when for how much is apparently only available as a $96
FED LOG set of CD's. Acess to these is classified as FOUO as in "for
official use only" and the feds WILL NOT sell them to individuals. There
are also major penalties for divulging their contents to third parties.

How can sets of these be legally accessed?

What is the simplest way to become a fed vendor or an acceptable supply
organization? Apparently a fire department may work.

Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp

--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
Don Lancaster wrote...
What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp
Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than
to a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Winfield Hill wrote:
Don Lancaster wrote...

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp


Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than
to a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


July 13th entry is specific to topic.


--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
Don Lancaster wrote:

July 13th entry is specific to topic.
In which case maybe you'd like to code your page so as to take one
directly to the appropriate entry - or otherwise you should post a note
indicating the relevant entry.

As it stood, it made no sense whatever. And still doesn't. I can't see
any relevant entry. The page relates to 2000 - 2002 . Is that what you
intended ?

Graham
 
Don Lancaster wrote:
Winfield Hill wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote...

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp



Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than to
a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


July 13th entry is specific to topic.


Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp



--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:08:17 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com>
wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:
Winfield Hill wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote...

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp



Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than to
a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


July 13th entry is specific to topic.


Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp
Well, at least it's a completely different page:



The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Please try the following:

* Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
* If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web
site administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly
formatted.
* Click the Back button to try another link.

HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

Technical Information (for support personnel)

* Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search for the words HTTP and 404.
* Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and About Custom Error Messages



How about a "Surplus of Mass Disposal not found" sendup page?


No, wait, I just figured it out: Take out the /glib from that last
link and you get this:

http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu05.asp


(you fixed one typo only to have added another)


From the OP:

What is the simplest way to become a fed vendor or an acceptable supply
organization? Apparently a fire department may work.
Don, is that a large red hat I see you wearing?

-----
http://www.mindspring.com/~benbradley
 
Don Lancaster wrote:

Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp
The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.


Better luck next time ?

Graham
 
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:00:32 +0100, the renowned Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:

Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp


The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.


Better luck next time ?

Graham

Leave out the glibness and you might get there..


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:00:32 +0100, the renowned Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Don Lancaster wrote:

Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp


The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.


Better luck next time ?

Graham

Leave out the glibness and you might get there..

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
I don't get it. Is this some kind of hide and seek game ?

Graham
 
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:42:54 +0100, Pooh Bear wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:00:32 +0100, the renowned Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:

Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.

Better luck next time ?

Leave out the glibness and you might get there..

I don't get it. Is this some kind of hide and seek game ?
Take out '/glib':
http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu05.asp

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:03:55 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com>
wrote:

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's are extremely useful for
identifying military and other gear. There is no obvious free website
with this tax-dollar-paid-for info available.

The few sites where the info is offered are obscenely expensive and
arrogant.

There IS a $18 CHAR DATA 3-CD set you can get, but it only has the
barest of limited NIIN info on it. For instance, a circuit breaker has
as its entire description "APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF POLES - ONE."

The "good stuff" that includes vendor addresses and product ages and how
may were bought when for how much is apparently only available as a $96
FED LOG set of CD's. Acess to these is classified as FOUO as in "for
official use only" and the feds WILL NOT sell them to individuals. There
are also major penalties for divulging their contents to third parties.

How can sets of these be legally accessed?

What is the simplest way to become a fed vendor or an acceptable supply
organization? Apparently a fire department may work.
---
Get a CAGE code and a DUNS number.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:03:55 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com>
wrote:


What is the simplest way to become a fed vendor or an acceptable supply
organization? Apparently a fire department may work.
---
Visit:

http://www.dscc.dla.mil/

for everything you need to know.
--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
Ben Bradley wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:08:17 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com
wrote:


Don Lancaster wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:


Don Lancaster wrote...


What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp



Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than to
a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?



July 13th entry is specific to topic.



Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp


Well, at least it's a completely different page:



The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Please try the following:

* Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
* If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web
site administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly
formatted.
* Click the Back button to try another link.

HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

Technical Information (for support personnel)

* Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search for the words HTTP and 404.
* Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and About Custom Error Messages



How about a "Surplus of Mass Disposal not found" sendup page?


No, wait, I just figured it out: Take out the /glib from that last
link and you get this:

http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu05.asp


(you fixed one typo only to have added another)


From the OP:


What is the simplest way to become a fed vendor or an acceptable supply
organization? Apparently a fire department may work.


Don, is that a large red hat I see you wearing?

-----
http://www.mindspring.com/~benbradley
The more you stir shit, the worse it smells.

Let's try one more time...

http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu05.asp



--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (928)428-4073 email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
 
Pooh Bear wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:00:32 +0100, the renowned Pooh Bear
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:


Don Lancaster wrote:

Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp


The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.


Better luck next time ?

Graham

Leave out the glibness and you might get there..

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I don't get it. Is this some kind of hide and seek game ?

Graham

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp
Should be http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu05.asp

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Don Lancaster wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote...

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp




Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than
to a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


July 13th entry is specific to topic.


Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp



Sorry; get:
The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

Please try the following:

* Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
* If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
* Click the Back button to try another link.

HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

Technical Information (for support personnel)

* Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search for the words HTTP and 404.
* Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and About Custom Error Messages.
 
Don Lancaster wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote...

What is the simplest LEGAL method an individual can access these?

The story so far: National Serial Numbers NSN's ...
Further discussion at http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu01.asp




Don, like your stories, but could you please pay more attention to
your links so they take one to the relevant material, rather than
to a high-level entry apparently intended to encourage browsing,
but in fact creating frustration and a "who needs it" attitude?


July 13th entry is specific to topic.


Typo.

Should have been http://www.tinaja.com/glib/whtnu05.asp



BTW, you made a serious error in stating "Other useful suppliers and
resources include Lumiled, The Delight, Alltronics, Maxim, Aboetech, and
Odd One" in that Maxim has a bad habit of advertising vaporware - making
them an UNuseful NONsupplier.
 
Robert Baer wrote:
BTW, you made a serious error in stating "Other useful suppliers and
resources include Lumiled, The Delight, Alltronics, Maxim, Aboetech, and
Odd One" in that Maxim has a bad habit of advertising vaporware - making
them an UNuseful NONsupplier.
Would you stop with the constaNT BS about Maxim? If they were as bad
as you claim they would have been out of business years ago. I NEVER had
a delivery problem with them when I worked in electronics manufacturing,
but I did with a lot of other semiconductor and component makers. Just
because you didn't get what you wanted when you wanted it doesn't make
them evil, incompetent or stupid.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

BTW, you made a serious error in stating "Other useful suppliers and
resources include Lumiled, The Delight, Alltronics, Maxim, Aboetech, and
Odd One" in that Maxim has a bad habit of advertising vaporware - making
them an UNuseful NONsupplier.


Would you stop with the constaNT BS about Maxim? If they were as bad
as you claim they would have been out of business years ago. I NEVER had
a delivery problem with them when I worked in electronics manufacturing,
but I did with a lot of other semiconductor and component makers. Just
because you didn't get what you wanted when you wanted it doesn't make
them evil, incompetent or stupid.

Excuse me for breathing!
It is a side issue, that every time i wanted to use a Maxim part in a design,
that *none* were available anywhere.
After numerous times and part types, i finally gave up.
I have talked to numerous distributors and supply houses that discontinued
the Maxim line *because* they could not get parts for their customers.

I dare say that whatever few Maxim part types your company needed, was bought
in the million dollar range - so Maxim had to turn on a line for those parts.
 
Robert Baer wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Robert Baer wrote:

BTW, you made a serious error in stating "Other useful suppliers and
resources include Lumiled, The Delight, Alltronics, Maxim, Aboetech, and
Odd One" in that Maxim has a bad habit of advertising vaporware - making
them an UNuseful NONsupplier.


Would you stop with the constaNT BS about Maxim? If they were as bad
as you claim they would have been out of business years ago. I NEVER had
a delivery problem with them when I worked in electronics manufacturing,
but I did with a lot of other semiconductor and component makers. Just
because you didn't get what you wanted when you wanted it doesn't make
them evil, incompetent or stupid.

Excuse me for breathing!
It is a side issue, that every time i wanted to use a Maxim part in a design,
that *none* were available anywhere.
After numerous times and part types, i finally gave up.
I have talked to numerous distributors and supply houses that discontinued
the Maxim line *because* they could not get parts for their customers.

I dare say that whatever few Maxim part types your company needed, was bought
in the million dollar range - so Maxim had to turn on a line for those parts.
No, you are wrong, again. We used about 35 different parts in a dozen
different product lines. Parts were ordered AFTER the equipment was
ordered, but before it was needed. Some were just a few items a month,
while others were several hundred a month. It was an "Engineer to
order" operation with products for the high end telemetry receiver
market. We had a lot more problems with Motorola and National dropping
parts in our existing designs than dealing with Maxim. I don't recall
purchasing or the stock room ever requesting the return of issued Maxim
spare parts for production requirements, but other vendors were slow to
deliver often enough that we didn't bother to keep any spares on the
production floor. Some of the DSP, FIR, and some programmable chips we
used quickly became a pain in the ass to keep in the supply channel, so
they were ordering them a year in advance of expected orders. That was
Analog Devices, Harris, Lattice, and a few National Semiconductor parts.

Also there were some passives that were a pain to get, or had quality
problems. I had to have Beckman removed from he approved supplier list
because of repeated problems with bad seals in their SMD pots. My point
is, any vendor can have problems, but if they don't fix them, they die,
or get bought out by the competition and adsorbed.


--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 

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