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https://www.moneyshake.com/car-finance-guides/road-safety/how-to-protect-keyless-entry-cars
Unlike standard cars where access without raising the alarm requires the
key, keyless entry models can be ‘tricked’ into thinking a key is
present through a transmitter and receiver device.
If your car’s fob isn’t stored safely, then it can be very easy for a
pair of opportune thieves to pick up the key’s radio frequency signal,
without having to break into your house. Luckily, however, there are
many ways in which you can make it extremely difficult for them to do
this and protect your motor.

---- Except, how isthere any signal to pick up unless you are in your
home pressing the Unlock button on the fob at the same time the thief
drives by? I myself dont\' bother pressing fob buttons once I\'ve left
the car, until I want to drive away the next day.

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/norfolk/relay-devices-being-used-to-steal-locked-cars/
 
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and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a Wanker.\"
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and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a Wanker.\"
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troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>
 
On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:00:24 +1100, chop, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
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skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>
 
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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:38:12 +1100, chop, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent:
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On 12/28/2022 10:38 PM, chop wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:31:21 +1100, bud-- <null@void.com> wrote:

On 12/28/2022 8:52 PM, chop wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:47:07 +1100, Scott Lurndal
scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> writes:


---- Except, how isthere any signal to pick up unless you are in your
home pressing the Unlock button on the fob at the same time the thief
drives by?    I myself dont\' bother pressing fob buttons once I\'ve
left
the car, until I want to drive away the next day.

The key fob and the vehicle routinely \"ping\" each other when
in range.   This is what allows mere possession of the key
to allow one to unlock the trunk, or fuel filler cover without
any button push on the remote.

The evesdropper can simply \"overhear\" the ping and use the data
to capture the necessary bits of the protocol.
 Not with a rolling code system.

If you read
https://www.moneyshake.com/car-finance-guides/road-safety/how-to-protect-keyless-entry-cars

\"How do keyless car thefts work?\" (in the first post)
the method gives the car the code from a legitimate fob at the time
the theft takes place.

That isn\'t possible with the rolling code system.
Click to expand...

\"at the time the theft takes place\"

Rolling code? That is the code the car gets.

But it is different every time, that\'s where the name ROLLING comes from.
Click to expand...

You have not read the cited source or it is too difficult for you to
understand.

When the scheme is being run it gets a \'fresh\' rolling code from an
authorized fob and sends it to the car.

Everyone seems to understand but you.
 
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