Fan problem in car

[Matt]

Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

 

[Matt]

Forgot to add that the airconditioning part uses a relay to switch the
seperate fan on in front of the radiator.

Matt.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

**Spend 30 Bucks and buy a manual. A schematic will be included.

BTW: Without including FAR more specific information (such as year model,
etc) no one can help you.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Dee]

In article <r1qnu05ao72k9ngqqoevoi3qq31c4a762j@4ax.com>, matt@nil.au
says...

Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

sounds like a faulty switch, pull it apart and give it a good cleanup

 

[Matt]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:46:55 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
news:r1qnu05ao72k9ngqqoevoi3qq31c4a762j@4ax.com...
Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!


**Spend 30 Bucks and buy a manual. A schematic will be included.

BTW: Without including FAR more specific information (such as year model,
etc) no one can help you.

1983, Sigma GL GJ 2.6 litre, 4 cylinder Astron engine, wagon, rallyt
blue colour, standard rims, very little rust, clean engine area, good
interior, standard roof rack, tail pipe chrome tip.


Anyway, I do have a Gregory's car manual made for my car and I think
it has the schematic, so I will see and look at it. Wish me the best
to understand it.

Thanks for suggesting the manual. Never thought of that.

Cheers,
Matt..................................

 

[Matt]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:15:56 +1100, Dee <i.h@te.spam.com> wrote:

In article <r1qnu05ao72k9ngqqoevoi3qq31c4a762j@4ax.com>, matt@nil.au
says...
Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

sounds like a faulty switch, pull it apart and give it a good cleanup

OHHHHHH no please don't tell me to pull the dash to bits????

 

[Matt]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:46:55 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

......A schematic will be included.

Looked at it. Usless info in it.

 

[sideshow bob]

i have frends with the same
prob and trying to figer that out as well.

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

 

[Matt]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:05:22 +1000, "sideshow bob"
<findout@krustyburger.com> wrote:

i have frends with the same
prob and trying to figer that out as well.

I don't know what the heck it would be. AFAIK, there isn't a relay to
control the blower, only for the air con. Maybe the switch has had it
but that seems fine. I might check some motor connections but that
will probably be a waste of time. Baffled.....................

Btw, no way I am calling an auto elec. Man they'd charge me 200 bucks
just to park it at the joint.

Matt............

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:46:55 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:


"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!


**Spend 30 Bucks and buy a manual. A schematic will be included.

BTW: Without including FAR more specific information (such as year model,
etc) no one can help you.

1983, Sigma GL GJ 2.6 litre, 4 cylinder Astron engine, wagon, rallyt
blue colour, standard rims, very little rust, clean engine area, good
interior, standard roof rack, tail pipe chrome tip.

**Better.

Anyway, I do have a Gregory's car manual made for my car and I think
it has the schematic, so I will see and look at it. Wish me the best
to understand it.

Thanks for suggesting the manual. Never thought of that.

**It seems you need another manual. I have a third party manual, for my
Commodore and the schematic section is complete, concise and easy to read.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Rod Out back]

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

Matt,

Had a similar problem in our UD truck the other day with the fan for the
aircon. It turned out to be the fan motor itself was getting dodgey.
Sometimes the unit would start when the switch was turned on, but other
times it wouldnt do anything. Turns out the fan would fire up if you could
turn it a little. I would assume this is something like contactors in the
fan that were getting tired. A bit hard to spin the fan every time it
wouldnt go, as they are well encased in the ventilation ducting...Anyway,
the fan replaced with a new unit, and it works every time the switch is
turned on!

Just a thought; try pulling out the fan and seeing if it will start every
time you apply power to it. If not, try turning it a little to see if it
will then go. Thats how i worked out it was the fan for ours.

Just a thought...

Cheers,

Rod.......Out Back

 

[quietguy]

Same happened with my Magna - pull the f'in dash out? Na, just fiddle with
it and with luck it will arc enought to set the bugger on fire

David

Matt wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:15:56 +1100, Dee <i.h@te.spam.com> wrote:

In article <r1qnu05ao72k9ngqqoevoi3qq31c4a762j@4ax.com>, matt@nil.au
says...
Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

sounds like a faulty switch, pull it apart and give it a good cleanup

OHHHHHH no please don't tell me to pull the dash to bits????

 

[quietguy]

Must be catching

I have a problem with the fan in my Toyota - bloody mice get in - die when
I hit the fan on for air conditioning - and stink like hell for the next
week or so - but thats not the worst - their body unbalances the fan and
vibrates like hell. Mongrel job to pul the sucker out (I suspect as I've
been too bloody lazy to do it)

David

 

[Roger Lascelles]

"Rod Out back" <someone@IHATESPAM.BIGPOND.COM> wrote in message
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Matt,

Had a similar problem in our UD truck the other day with the fan for the
aircon. It turned out to be the fan motor itself was getting dodgey.
Sometimes the unit would start when the switch was turned on, but other
times it wouldnt do anything. Turns out the fan would fire up if you
could
turn it a little. I would assume this is something like contactors in the
fan that were getting tired. A bit hard to spin the fan every time it
wouldnt go, as they are well encased in the ventilation ducting...Anyway,
the fan replaced with a new unit, and it works every time the switch is
turned on!

Just a thought; try pulling out the fan and seeing if it will start every
time you apply power to it. If not, try turning it a little to see if it
will then go. Thats how i worked out it was the fan for ours.

This is very true of older cars. The motor commutator or brushes wear out
and the fan won't start in all positions. Later, it stops altogether.

The wiring is not rocket science. Turn on the fan (ignition may need to be
on or even engine ?) and see if you have 12V at the fan wires. If you don't
have 12V, you may not want to check all that elderly wiring - just cut the
wires and connect your own switch to provide power / earth.

The Sigma is the right age for wiring troubles. Oxidation causes the
connector wire crimps to lose contact. The spade connectors get weak and
oxidised. Wires even corrode inside the jacket. In particular, I like to
wire the ignition separately with my own wire. Another trick is to
disassemble every connector in the car, file the wire ends in the crimped
connectors then solder. Makes lights brighter, starting easier, wipers
faster !

Roger

 

[pussynuts]

Sounds like the fan motor is faulty.See if you can get hold of another one
for testing.
"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

 

[quietguy]

I suppose you've already hit the sucker with a can of CRC?

David

 

[chris]

near the fan is a bank of 3 ( from memory) resistors that controll the
speed of the fan...
a m8 had one of the sigmas... lol shit box..
his failed and would only work on high.. maybee start there
cheers

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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Does the fan in a car use a relay?
I have a Mitsubishi Sigma and most of the time the fan doesn't turn on
when I slide the switch and occasionally it will work. I have checked
fuses etc. Not sure if there is a relay problem or something else.
It is getting hot here in Melbourne and need the air conditioning!

Thanks,
Matt...................

 

[Matt]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:49:49 GMT, "chris" <ctg@bigpond.com> wrote:

near the fan is a bank of 3 ( from memory) resistors that controll the
speed of the fan...
a m8 had one of the sigmas... lol shit box..
his failed and would only work on high.. maybee start there
cheers

Ok thanks. I love my Sigma!

 

[chris]

my m8s sig was lowered with a stage 3 cam and extractors... got us into the
corner country no probs at all....

"Matt" <matt@nil.au> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:49:49 GMT, "chris" <ctg@bigpond.com> wrote:

near the fan is a bank of 3 ( from memory) resistors that controll the
speed of the fan...
a m8 had one of the sigmas... lol shit box..
his failed and would only work on high.. maybee start there
cheers

Ok thanks. I love my Sigma!