Fake product queries

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Robert Baer

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I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessÂŽ LLC) have received:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


Hello Sales,

We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
multimeter w/Temperature........30units

Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

Awaiting to hear from you asap.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 724-361-3253

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


HELLO SALES.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

4)Cisco ISR 5331.


ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

REGARDS.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 610-738-3157
 
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 3:13:28 AM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:
I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago..

Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessÂŽ LLC) have received:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


Hello Sales,

We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
multimeter w/Temperature........30units

Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

Awaiting to hear from you asap.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 724-361-3253

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


HELLO SALES.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

4)Cisco ISR 5331.


ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

REGARDS.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 610-738-3157
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I get stuff like that once in a blue moon. I think they used to come in waves... very small waves. I don't recall seeing any in likely close to a year, but then I don't give them any attention anymore. Clearly they are trying to work a scam.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
We had a web shop where we sold children’s clothing

Once in a while we got huge orders from other countries

Typically this would be an order done paid by with a stolen credit card

Cheers

Klaus
 
On 2020/03/07 12:13 a.m., Robert Baer wrote:
  I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
Click to expand...

Several per day - they get binned - the usual giveaway is they don't
name any products, they simply want a list of everything with discounts.

"Have you receive my email? like last email i have mentioned we are
supply marine equipments, so if you have any require,"

"Please send in your best offer for attached products, Kindly qoute item
number 4 in a different invoice, as it will be shipped to a defferent
location."


The "Junk" button on Thunderbird makes short work of them...

John ;-#)#

  These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

  We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

  Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessŽ LLC) have received:

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 Hello Sales,

 We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

 Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

 1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
 multimeter w/Temperature........30units

 Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

 Awaiting to hear from you asap.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 724-361-3253

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 HELLO SALES.

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

 1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

 2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

 3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

 4)Cisco ISR 5331.


 ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

 PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

 WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

 REGARDS.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 610-738-3157
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On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 00:13:10 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessŽ LLC) have received:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


Hello Sales,

We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
multimeter w/Temperature........30units

Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

Awaiting to hear from you asap.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 724-361-3253

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


HELLO SALES.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

4)Cisco ISR 5331.


ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

REGARDS.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 610-738-3157
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Some institutions must go out for N bids to buy anything. They
probably have a preferred supplier all lined up.

But then, both of those requests are not in typical English purchasing
syntax, so may be faked from asia or somewhere for some unknown
reason.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 3:13:28 AM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:
I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago..

Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessÂŽ LLC) have received:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


Hello Sales,

We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
multimeter w/Temperature........30units

Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

Awaiting to hear from you asap.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 724-361-3253

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
To: info@oil4lessllc.com


HELLO SALES.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

4)Cisco ISR 5331.


ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

REGARDS.

Keith Fangohr
Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
Tel: 610-738-3157
Click to expand...

I used to get them from my website that clearly stated that all items were NOS surplus. Requests for prices on long lists of fuses or ICs were common. Now that Earthlink has mostly shut down, they closed peoples websites without notice so I don't currently have one.
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2020 00:13:10 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:

I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product queries
you get per month.
These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.
Click to expand...

I get a query every couple days wanting a price list and description
of my products, NEVER mentioning ANYTHING about our area of interest.
I just toss those. Yeah, right, they want to buy 1000 units but don't
even mention what they want to buy.

Then, every few weeks I get some like you mention, where they want to buy
hundreds of Fluke DVMs or computer motherboards or something that we do
not sell. (We are a manufacturer of motion control products, not a
distributor of general electronic stuff.)

About two years ago I got a call from my bank asking if I was expecting a
big check. I was not. Some scammer had mailed a fabricated check to my
bank with no prior notice, and then wanted me to send some portion to
them. I got in touch with the trucking company the check was drawn on,
and they were in total panic mode as a bunch of these bogus checks had
been sent to various outfits, and many deposited them. They were not
going to be able to meet their payroll! I managed to get the check,
cover letter and envelope from my bank, and reported that I had all this
to the postal inspection service, but never even heard back.

So, that's MY bogus order story.

Jon
 
I haven't had one of these in a while and I just got one today...

Hello,
I would like to inquire about Trickle Charger you sell,so email me availability and let me know the types of payment you accept.Hope to hear back from you ASAP.

Best Regards,

Bill Dyer
Dyer Product Inc,
San Francisco, CA 94133


The funny part is they didn't send it to the email address listed on the web site. Rather they sent it to an email address associated with posting here!

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
Robert Baer wrote:
  I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
  These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

  We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

  Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessŽ LLC) have received:

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 Hello Sales,

 We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

 Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

 1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
 multimeter w/Temperature........30units

 Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

 Awaiting to hear from you asap.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 724-361-3253

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 HELLO SALES.

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

 1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

 2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

 3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

 4)Cisco ISR 5331.


 ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

 PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

 WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

 REGARDS.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 610-738-3157
Click to expand...
** ANOTHER fake e-mail, no order this time **
Dear Supplier,

My name is Amanda McDonnell, The Director of Procurement Harvard
University. The University is required to have a W-9 (modified) on file
for every companies with which it does business.


Please include a completed W-9 to your response.

Thank you!

Amanda McDonnell
Director of Procurement, Financial Accounting and Reporting
Harvard University
1033 Massachusetts Avenue, 2nd Floor
Cambridge, MA 02138
P: (617) 714-9955
F: (617) 714-0073
 
On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:16:53 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
  These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

  We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

  Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessŽ LLC) have received:

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 Hello Sales,

 We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

 Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

 1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
 multimeter w/Temperature........30units

 Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

 Awaiting to hear from you asap.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 724-361-3253

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 HELLO SALES.

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

 1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

 2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

 3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

 4)Cisco ISR 5331.


 ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

 PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

 WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

 REGARDS.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 610-738-3157

** ANOTHER fake e-mail, no order this time **
Dear Supplier,

My name is Amanda McDonnell, The Director of Procurement Harvard
University. The University is required to have a W-9 (modified) on file
for every companies with which it does business.


Please include a completed W-9 to your response.

Thank you!

Amanda McDonnell
Director of Procurement, Financial Accounting and Reporting
Harvard University
1033 Massachusetts Avenue, 2nd Floor
Cambridge, MA 02138
P: (617) 714-9955
F: (617) 714-0073
Click to expand...

What is the return email address?

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 11:16:53 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
  I am curious as to how many (on the average) fake/phony product
queries you get per month.
  These "queries" have a rather wide range of "sources": college
departments, hospitals, construction companies, electronic equipment
manufacturers, etc.

  We stopped wasting our time in vetting the source of each one ages ago.

  Here are two recent ones we (Oil 4 LessŽ LLC) have received:

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: Fluke Electronics product RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Fri, January 10, 2020 8:59 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 Hello Sales,

 We need price and availability on the Digital Multimeter with the
model number and descriptions below:

 Kindly workout the quote and email me back.

 1)Fluke 87V industrial true RMS
 multimeter w/Temperature........30units

 Shipping: (TBD)expedite delivery requested.

 Awaiting to hear from you asap.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 724-361-3253

 -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: CISCO ROUTER RFQ
 From: Keith Fangohr <keith.fangohr@alliedtechequipsolutions.com
 Date: Thu, March 05, 2020 9:44 am
 To: info@oil4lessllc.com


 HELLO SALES.

 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE QUOTATION ON THE CISCO ROUTER PRODUCT PART
NUMBERS LISTED BELOW:

 1)CISCO NIM-2FXS/4FXO 2-PORT FXS AND 4-PORT FXO NIM

 2)Cisco NIM-2GE-CU-SFP= 2-Port Ge Wan Nim, Dual-Mod.

 3)Cisco ISR 4331-V/k9.

 4)Cisco ISR 5331.


 ALL PARTS MUST BE GENUINE CISCO PRODUCT PARTS NOT COMPATIBLE OR
AFTERMARKET.

 PAYMENT VIA:MASTER/VISA

 WAITING FOR THE QUOTES SO I COULD LIST THE QTY NEEDED.

 REGARDS.

 Keith Fangohr
 Allied Technology & Equipment Solutions Inc.
 440 N. 4th Street Reading Pennsylvania 19601
 Tel: 610-738-3157

** ANOTHER fake e-mail, no order this time **
Dear Supplier,

My name is Amanda McDonnell, The Director of Procurement Harvard
University. The University is required to have a W-9 (modified) on file
for every companies with which it does business.


Please include a completed W-9 to your response.

Thank you!

Amanda McDonnell
Director of Procurement, Financial Accounting and Reporting
Harvard University
1033 Massachusetts Avenue, 2nd Floor
Cambridge, MA 02138
P: (617) 714-9955
F: (617) 714-0073

What is the return email address?

Amanda McDonnell <procurement@harvardprocurements.com
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