Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing...

[a a]

A blast of ultrasound waves could rejuvenate ageing cells

Treatment with low-frequency ultrasound has restarted cell division in ageing human cells and improved physical performance in old mice

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2354698-a-blast-of-ultrasound-waves-could-rejuvenate-ageing-cells/

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 5:31:21 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:

A blast of ultrasound waves could rejuvenate ageing cells

Treatment with low-frequency ultrasound has restarted cell division in ageing human cells and improved physical performance in old mice

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2354698-a-blast-of-ultrasound-waves-could-rejuvenate-ageing-cells/

Well, they happen to think otherwise, and they know considerably more about the subject matter than you.

 

[a a]

On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 02:56:33 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 5:31:21 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
A blast of ultrasound waves could rejuvenate ageing cells

Treatment with low-frequency ultrasound has restarted cell division in ageing human cells and improved physical performance in old mice

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2354698-a-blast-of-ultrasound-waves-could-rejuvenate-ageing-cells/
Well, they happen to think otherwise, and they know considerably more about the subject matter than you.

they think they think only
they think they know
but life is for real
and NewScientist is blah blah blah delusional day dreaming popular science today

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 1:31:41 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:

On Thursday, 19 January 2023 at 02:56:33 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 5:31:21 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
A blast of ultrasound waves could rejuvenate ageing cells

Treatment with low-frequency ultrasound has restarted cell division in ageing human cells and improved physical performance in old mice

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2354698-a-blast-of-ultrasound-waves-could-rejuvenate-ageing-cells/
Well, they happen to think otherwise, and they know considerably more about the subject matter than you.
they think they think only
they think they know
but life is for real

Not that a a has a clue what \"real\" might be.

> and NewScientist is blah blah blah delusional day dreaming popular science today

The New Scientist has been published since 1956. I\'ve only subscribed for the past 35 years - since I could afford it.

\"The New Scientist scored an average Factual Grade of 75.4%, placing it in the 96th percentile of our dataset. In fact, the site has the tenth-highest score of any news outlet that we analyzed.21 Sept 2022\".

Wikipedia is less flattering, but not much. The delusions here are all a a\'s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Scientist

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[a a]

oh, my poor #SydneyZOO

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 12:08:23 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:
> oh, my poor #SydneyZOO

It\'s a a\'s intellectual poverty that deserves more sympathy. He doesn\'t ever seem to have read New Scientist - probably hasn\'t had enough education to be able to appreciate it.

English language science journalism mostly isn\'t up to much - the Dutch are much better at it - but New Scientist does much better. Quite a few of the people I\'ve met who write for it have had a proper science education, and hang around with real scientists (which is how I got to meet them - technically speaking, I am real scientist with several cited papers in the peer-reviewed literature, even if I don\'t make my living that way).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[a a]

#SydneyZOO said:

\"I am real scientist\"
oh no, #SydneyZOO is completely wrong
#SydneyZOO is blah blah blah on the Usenet
to crash IEEE

good job done

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 4:48:55 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:

#SydneyZOO said:

\"I am real scientist\"
oh no, #SydneyZOO is completely wrong
#SydneyZOO is blah blah blah on the Usenet
to crash IEEE

good job done

A a doesn\'t like my definition of a real scientist - somebody who has published a paper in a peer-reviewed journal that has been read and subsequently cited by other scientists in that or other peer-reviewed journals. He hasn\'t come up with his own definition, most likely because he doesn\'t know enough about science to have one.

The simplest hypothesis is that he\'s a idiot - like Flyguy and Skybuck Flying. This doesn\'t explain his obsession with China, or sun spots but idiots do have all kinds of irrational obsessions.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[a a]

#SydneyZoo promotes himself as #fakescientist aiming to crash IEEE

We all know now that #IEEE is controlled by spammers like #SydneyZOO
and should be avoided

Good job done by #SydneyZOO

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 12:40:19 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:

#SydneyZoo promotes himself as #fakescientist aiming to crash IEEE

We all know now that #IEEE is controlled by spammers like #SydneyZOO
and should be avoided

Good job done by #SydneyZOO

Really? I may be treasurer of the NSW branch of the IEEE, but that doesn\'t give me any control of the organisation as a whole, which is run from America.

IEEE Mail is a actually run by google as part of their g-mail operation, and while one of my nephews works for Google Austraiia, neither of us would be able to control anything, even if we wanted to.

As for the \"spammer\" claim - it is a a who is the spammer, littering sci.electronics.design with messages that don\'t start threads - if they do get responses it\'s mostly to say that he\'s posting irrelevant nonsense. Nobody here cares about sun-spots.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

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--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo

 

[John Walliker]

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:

--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo

There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John

 

[a a]

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice

Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention

 

[John Walliker]

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice
I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention

Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity
Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

John

 

[a a]

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 12:55:07 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice
I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention
Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity
Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

John
\"What is HIFU?

High-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU) uses high-frequency ultrasound energy to heat and destroy cancer cells in the prostate. A beam of ultrasound energy travels into the prostate from a probe put into the back passage (rectum).

promoted by

Prostate Cancer UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1005541) and in Scotland (SC039332). Registered company number 02653887. Registered office: Fourth floor, The Counting House, 53 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QN. VAT Registration

Charities are not authorized to give medical advice.

--
My friend, M.D. professor from Glasgow, worked on coagulation of cancer cells using magnetic, magnetotactic bacteria, moved to cancer cell regions to win Nobel Prize in Medicine, but failed to develop technology to move bacteria, using strong magnetic fields within human organs to cancered regions.


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[John Walliker]

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 14:35:13 UTC, a a wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 12:55:07 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice
I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention
Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity
Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

John
\"What is HIFU?

High-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU) uses high-frequency ultrasound energy to heat and destroy cancer cells in the prostate. A beam of ultrasound energy travels into the prostate from a probe put into the back passage (rectum).

promoted by

Prostate Cancer UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1005541) and in Scotland (SC039332). Registered company number 02653887. Registered office: Fourth floor, The Counting House, 53 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QN. VAT Registration

Charities are not authorized to give medical advice.

If you don\'t like that description there are plenty of others. I picked that one because
I thought it gave a clear description of the procedure. My local hospital offers HIFU
treatment. It is a real procedure that ordinary people can have through the NHS if
they are suitable. I know somebody who was successfully treated in this way a few
years ago. It does not involve surgery.

John

 

[a a]

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 18:17:38 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 14:35:13 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 12:55:07 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice
I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention
Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity
Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

John
\"What is HIFU?

High-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU) uses high-frequency ultrasound energy to heat and destroy cancer cells in the prostate. A beam of ultrasound energy travels into the prostate from a probe put into the back passage (rectum).

promoted by

Prostate Cancer UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1005541) and in Scotland (SC039332). Registered company number 02653887. Registered office: Fourth floor, The Counting House, 53 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QN. VAT Registration

Charities are not authorized to give medical advice.
If you don\'t like that description there are plenty of others. I picked that one because
I thought it gave a clear description of the procedure. My local hospital offers HIFU
treatment. It is a real procedure that ordinary people can have through the NHS if
they are suitable. I know somebody who was successfully treated in this way a few
years ago. It does not involve surgery.

John
I am not interested in procedures adopted by your hospital.

Remote coagulation of cancer cells is high risk procedure since focused ultrasound turns water into vapour, destroying internal organs.

So HIFU is high risk, low quality procedure, which if applied can stimulate the growth of cancer cells.

Iron-oxidizing bacteria can be locally injected and stimulated by pulsated magnetic field to heat up and coagulate local ancer cells.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:35:13 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 12:55:07 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

John
never give fake medical advice
I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention
Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity
Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

\"What is HIFU?

High-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU) uses high-frequency ultrasound energy to heat and destroy cancer cells in the prostate. A beam of ultrasound energy travels into the prostate from a probe put into the back passage (rectum).

promoted by

Prostate Cancer UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1005541) and in Scotland (SC039332). Registered company number 02653887. Registered office: Fourth floor, The Counting House, 53 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QN.. VAT Registration

Charities are not authorized to give medical advice.

--
My friend, M.D. professor from Glasgow, worked on coagulation of cancer cells using magnetic, magnetotactic bacteria, moved to cancer cell regions to win Nobel Prize in Medicine, but failed to develop technology to move bacteria, using strong magnetic fields within human organs to cancered regions..

A a has lots of imaginary friends. Now he is imagining magnetotactic bacteria. He might get brownie points for creativity, but none for credibility.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:28:03 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:

On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 18:17:38 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 14:35:13 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 12:55:07 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 23:15:17 UTC, a a wrote:
On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 00:06:50 UTC+1, John Walliker wrote:
On Sunday, 22 January 2023 at 15:00:29 UTC, a a wrote:
--Fake by NewScientist: A blast of ultrasound waves can rejuvenate nothing
as promoted by #SydneyZoo
There is no doubt that ultrasound can have significant physiological effects.
Whether these are beneficial or detrimental is more open to debate and is
probably related to the intensity. Ultrasound irradiation causes localised heating
which may be beneficial. At higher levels cavitation occurs which could have
unpredictable effects, although these are more likely to be bad than good.
At very high intensities it is definitely destructive. Prostate cancer is
sometimes treated with high intensity ultrasound.

never give fake medical advice

I quite agree. So don\'t.
Prostate cancer undergoes surgical intervention.

Not always. Sometimes radiotherapy is used. Sometimes High Intensity Focused Ultrasound.
https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/treatments/hifu

\"What is HIFU?

High-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU) uses high-frequency ultrasound energy to heat and destroy cancer cells in the prostate. A beam of ultrasound energy travels into the prostate from a probe put into the back passage (rectum).

promoted by

Prostate Cancer UK is a registered charity in England and Wales (1005541) and in Scotland (SC039332). Registered company number 02653887. Registered office: Fourth floor, The Counting House, 53 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QN. VAT Registration

Charities are not authorized to give medical advice.

If you don\'t like that description there are plenty of others. I picked that one because
I thought it gave a clear description of the procedure. My local hospital offers HIFU
treatment. It is a real procedure that ordinary people can have through the NHS if
they are suitable. I know somebody who was successfully treated in this way a few
years ago. It does not involve surgery.

I am not interested in procedures adopted by your hospital.

A a is only interested in spreading his bizarre delusions. Inconvenient facts get ignored.

> Remote coagulation of cancer cells is high risk procedure since focused ultrasound turns water into vapour, destroying internal organs.

Focused ultrasound can cause cavitition, if the intensity is high enough. You can get enough warming to kill a cancer cell with intensities which won\'t cause cavitation.

> So HIFU is high risk, low quality procedure, which if applied can stimulate the growth of cancer cells.

Reasoning from a false premise to an invalid conclusion - a a\'s trademark activity.

> Iron-oxidizing bacteria can be locally injected and stimulated by pulsed magnetic field to heat up and coagulate local cancer cells.

Another fantasy, not back up by a link to any publication describing the procedure, or telling us how it worked in clinical trials.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney