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This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever be...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM>
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:t70110$g83$1
@gioia.aioe.org:
I cannot believe that all of you EV folks did not comment on this.
@gioia.aioe.org:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
I cannot believe that all of you EV folks did not comment on this.
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Ricky
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On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:35:54 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Would you like to see images of gasoline vehicles burning? What is your point? They put batteries in a bus and it burned up. What\'s your point?
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DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote in news:t70110$g83$1
@gioia.aioe.org:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
I cannot believe that all of you EV folks did not comment on this.
Would you like to see images of gasoline vehicles burning? What is your point? They put batteries in a bus and it burned up. What\'s your point?
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Rick C.
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Phil Hobbs
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
I never look at random youtube links, unless they\'re accompanied by some
rationale for doing that, e.g. \"A UFO photobombs an episode of <scotty
kilmer or Dan Carlin or somebody> about 8 minutes in.\"
Cheers
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:t70110$g83$1
@gioia.aioe.org:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
I cannot believe that all of you EV folks did not comment on this.
I never look at random youtube links, unless they\'re accompanied by some
rationale for doing that, e.g. \"A UFO photobombs an episode of <scotty
kilmer or Dan Carlin or somebody> about 8 minutes in.\"
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
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Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d0a1ec1c-1490-4b34-8c69-6c6fc3f5672dn@googlegroups.com:
WTF is the point of your stupid response?
news:d0a1ec1c-1490-4b34-8c69-6c6fc3f5672dn@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:35:54 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote in news:t70110$g83$1
@gioia.aioe.org:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
I cannot believe that all of you EV folks did not comment on
this.
Would you like to see images of gasoline vehicles burning? What
is your point? They put batteries in a bus and it burned up.
What\'s your point?
WTF is the point of your stupid response?
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Sylvia Else
Guest
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that energy in
an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that energy in
an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
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Guest
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote in
news:jfmf32Fd96hU1@mid.individual.net:
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
news:jfmf32Fd96hU1@mid.individual.net:
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that
energy in an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly
manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
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Ed Lee
Guest
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
We don\'t really know this situation. In case of the Bolt, manufacturing deflect causes short of a powerful cell. Cutting it off won\'t help. Smaller cells are safer in this regard. 18650 can be shorted and destroyed, but not exploded.
Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote in
news:jfmf32...@mid.individual.net:
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
wrote:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that
energy in an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly
manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
We don\'t really know this situation. In case of the Bolt, manufacturing deflect causes short of a powerful cell. Cutting it off won\'t help. Smaller cells are safer in this regard. 18650 can be shorted and destroyed, but not exploded.
R
Ricky
Guest
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:27:30 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
Battery makers are trying to cut costs, and one way to do that is through larger cell sizes. I think VW, or BMW, not sure which, uses a cell about the size of a cigar box. I believe this also lets them give the cell more integrity without lowering the specific energy.
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On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote in
news:jfmf32...@mid.individual.net:
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
wrote:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that
energy in an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly
manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
We don\'t really know this situation. In case of the Bolt, manufacturing deflect causes short of a powerful cell. Cutting it off won\'t help. Smaller cells are safer in this regard. 18650 can be shorted and destroyed, but not exploded.
Battery makers are trying to cut costs, and one way to do that is through larger cell sizes. I think VW, or BMW, not sure which, uses a cell about the size of a cigar box. I believe this also lets them give the cell more integrity without lowering the specific energy.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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Ed Lee
Guest
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 8:15:31 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
GM/Bolt cells are long thin rectangular pouch; so, in theory, should have better heat dissipation, other than the manufacturing defect. We have to give them credit for doing the right thing to recall (vehicle), replace (battery) and retool (factory). Let\'s wait and see.
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:27:30 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote in
news:jfmf32...@mid.individual.net:
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
wrote:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that
energy in an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly
manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
We don\'t really know this situation. In case of the Bolt, manufacturing deflect causes short of a powerful cell. Cutting it off won\'t help. Smaller cells are safer in this regard. 18650 can be shorted and destroyed, but not exploded.
Battery makers are trying to cut costs, and one way to do that is through larger cell sizes. I think VW, or BMW, not sure which, uses a cell about the size of a cigar box. I believe this also lets them give the cell more integrity without lowering the specific energy.
GM/Bolt cells are long thin rectangular pouch; so, in theory, should have better heat dissipation, other than the manufacturing defect. We have to give them credit for doing the right thing to recall (vehicle), replace (battery) and retool (factory). Let\'s wait and see.
R
Ricky
Guest
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 12:25:01 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
Oh, I can barely wait! It\'s like trying to get to sleep on the night before Christmas!
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On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 8:15:31 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:27:30 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote in
news:jfmf32...@mid.individual.net:
On 30-May-22 12:46 am, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org
wrote:
This is way worse than any electric car situation could ever
be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Any energy containing system has the potential to release that
energy in an uncontrolled way if it is abused, or incorrectly
manufactured.
What makes you think this one had a bad design?
Sylvia.
Each \"cell\" in the battery at this size level should have had
monitoring circuitry to cut it out of an overload condition.
So the overload should have \"sparked\" a massive shutdown, not a massive
meltdown.
We don\'t really know this situation. In case of the Bolt, manufacturing deflect causes short of a powerful cell. Cutting it off won\'t help. Smaller cells are safer in this regard. 18650 can be shorted and destroyed, but not exploded.
Battery makers are trying to cut costs, and one way to do that is through larger cell sizes. I think VW, or BMW, not sure which, uses a cell about the size of a cigar box. I believe this also lets them give the cell more integrity without lowering the specific energy.
GM/Bolt cells are long thin rectangular pouch; so, in theory, should have better heat dissipation, other than the manufacturing defect. We have to give them credit for doing the right thing to recall (vehicle), replace (battery) and retool (factory). Let\'s wait and see.
Oh, I can barely wait! It\'s like trying to get to sleep on the night before Christmas!
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Rick C.
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