Equipment for Beginner

[Cranky One]

What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have texts
and online sources for the theory but I am not sure what hardware I would
need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too expensive for me
and I cannot find out what their "personal electronics trainer" consists of.

Thanks

 

[Art]

Check out the very good tutorials found by doing a Google for electronics,
there are some very informative sites.
Initially you want to learn as much as possible about the safety routines
that are mandated in working with active circuits. Then you decide what type
of measuring devices you will require. First: a good DVM, a good assortment
or hand tools [including a basic soldering station]. <

As much information again, about SAFETY when dealing with these items,
inclusive of voltage and current hazards, chemical and metal hazards, etc.
there are a lot of materials in today's electronics that mandate
appropriate handling and disposal routines, including heavy metals, caustic
chemicals, etc.
Maybe check places that sell basic kits to actually learn what how devices
physically appear, what each item's functions is, etc. Basic instruction
via tutors is recommended, however there are many "Free" courses that will
allow you the basics. Stick with it!!
"Cranky One" <not_me@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have
texts and online sources for the theory but I am not sure what hardware I
would need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too expensive
for me and I cannot find out what their "personal electronics trainer"
consists of.

Thanks

 

[Larry Brasfield]

"Cranky One" <not_me@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have texts and online sources for the theory but I am not sure
what hardware I would need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too expensive for me and I cannot find out what their
"personal electronics trainer" consists of.

For that subject, a working brain and the willingness
to use it are the only items really required. (And do
not underestimate the latter!) That elementary theory
is not easy to discern among all the issues that arise
when you start building circuits and looking at them.

Now, without suggesting you need to do so, getting an
adjustable low-voltage DC power supply, a signal
generator, and an oscilloscope will be worthwhile when
you do start building and observing analog circuits. But
without the basics, best learned outside your lab, you'll
be hard put to make sense of anything in the lab.

Your hesitation with respect to "trainer" and such is wise.

Thanks

You're welcome.

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[Larry Brasfield]

"Larry Brasfield" <donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com> wrote
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"Cranky One" <not_me@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have texts and online sources for the theory but I am not sure
what hardware I would need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too expensive for me and I cannot find out what their
"personal electronics trainer" consists of.

For that subject, a working brain and the willingness
to use it are the only items really required. (And do
not underestimate the latter!) That elementary theory
is not easy to discern among all the issues that arise
when you start building circuits and looking at them.

Now, without suggesting you need to do so, getting an
adjustable low-voltage DC power supply, a signal
generator, and an oscilloscope will be worthwhile when
you do start building and observing analog circuits. But
without the basics, best learned outside your lab, you'll
be hard put to make sense of anything in the lab.

Your hesitation with respect to "trainer" and such is wise.

I should add that before you equip a lab, spending some
time with the free SPICE simulator generously provided
by Linear Technology, would do more for cementing your
understanding of the basics than some real equipment.
Get it at: http://www.linear.com/company/software.jsp
and follow the LTSPICE/SWITCHERCAD III link.

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[Roger Johansson]

"Cranky One" <not_me@nowhere.com> wrote:

What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have
texts and online sources for the theory but I am not sure what hardware
I would need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too
expensive for me and I cannot find out what their "personal electronics
trainer" consists of.

I have seen many "personal electronics trainers" and they usually
consist of some kind of prototype board and some common components like
resistors, diodes, transistors, op-amps, etc..

You can get such things a lot cheaper buy buying it yourself as you need
it. Or buy an electronics experiment kit, usually found in toy stores.

Youngster who get such a kit can put together circuits and be happy that
it works, but you can also measure everything and do theoretical
calculations and check them in reality. And change the circuits far
beyond the simple instructions in the kit. It's the same components as in
a personal trainer. You just use it in another and more advanced way than
youngsters do who get such a kit for christmas.

But there is an even cheaper, and better, option.

Learn to use an electronics simulator and you can do electronics
experiments in your computer. That will add a very valuable experience to
your merits list, and you can do experiments without having to buy real
components and tools.

One of the best simulators is switchercad, and it's free.
http://ltspice.linear.com/software/swcadiii.exe

To find experiments to do you can take circuits from the theory sources
you have found, and from all the circuits for beginners you can find on
the web. Or from the electronics experimenters kit, if you got one.

You might still want to do some soldering experiments too, to get a feel
for the real components. Buy a cheap soldering iron and some pcb board
material and components and a cheap digital multimeter.

But such soldering experience is of very little value if you are looking
for a job, unless you want to move to Malaysia and get a work in a
factory and assemble circuits together with thousands of very low paid
malaysian women.

If you learn to work with a simulator in your computer you will have the
knowledge needed to design circuits, and that is of great value if you
want a future job in electronics.


--
Roger J.

 

[Cranky One]

Thanks - I'll have a look at switchercad. I have not heard of it before.


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"Cranky One" <not_me@nowhere.com> wrote:

What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have
texts and online sources for the theory but I am not sure what hardware
I would need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too
expensive for me and I cannot find out what their "personal electronics
trainer" consists of.

I have seen many "personal electronics trainers" and they usually
consist of some kind of prototype board and some common components like
resistors, diodes, transistors, op-amps, etc..

You can get such things a lot cheaper buy buying it yourself as you need
it. Or buy an electronics experiment kit, usually found in toy stores.

Youngster who get such a kit can put together circuits and be happy that
it works, but you can also measure everything and do theoretical
calculations and check them in reality. And change the circuits far
beyond the simple instructions in the kit. It's the same components as in
a personal trainer. You just use it in another and more advanced way than
youngsters do who get such a kit for christmas.

But there is an even cheaper, and better, option.

Learn to use an electronics simulator and you can do electronics
experiments in your computer. That will add a very valuable experience to
your merits list, and you can do experiments without having to buy real
components and tools.

One of the best simulators is switchercad, and it's free.
http://ltspice.linear.com/software/swcadiii.exe

To find experiments to do you can take circuits from the theory sources
you have found, and from all the circuits for beginners you can find on
the web. Or from the electronics experimenters kit, if you got one.

You might still want to do some soldering experiments too, to get a feel
for the real components. Buy a cheap soldering iron and some pcb board
material and components and a cheap digital multimeter.

But such soldering experience is of very little value if you are looking
for a job, unless you want to move to Malaysia and get a work in a
factory and assemble circuits together with thousands of very low paid
malaysian women.

If you learn to work with a simulator in your computer you will have the
knowledge needed to design circuits, and that is of great value if you
want a future job in electronics.


--
Roger J.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:07:16 -0500, Cranky One wrote:

What equipment do I need to get to learn the basics of AC/DC? I have texts
and online sources for the theory but I am not sure what hardware I would
need to augment the texts. The CIE courses are just too expensive for me
and I cannot find out what their "personal electronics trainer" consists of.

Shop around for this sort of thing:
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=28-280

Here are some other suggestions:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=electronics+starter+kit&btnG=Google+Search

And for heaven's sakes, if you intend to learn anything useful, DO NOT use
a simulator until AFTER you've had components in your hands - at least
light up a LED, blow up a capacitor, charge a capacitor and shock your
little brother, stuff like that.

Have Fun!
Rich

 

[Lord Garth]

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:07:16 -0500, Cranky One wrote:


And for heaven's sakes, if you intend to learn anything useful, DO NOT use
a simulator until AFTER you've had components in your hands - at least
light up a LED, blow up a capacitor, charge a capacitor and shock your
little brother, stuff like that.

Have Fun!
Rich

Hey! I was the little brother! Fortunately, he had no electrical
inclination.