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Bret Cahill

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Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.


Bret Cahill
 
No more Bret Cahill being pushed too far; spreeing up usenet, day in
and day out!
 
On Dec 13, 9:02 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.
It might be social inertia.
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

It might be social inertia.
BOOM!
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.
Make that "break a shear pin."


Bret Cahill
 
On Dec 13, 9:23 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."
The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.
They are demeaning their own fields. The worse one of all time is
"vector." Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point. Get it? It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..


Bret Cahill
 
On Dec 13, 9:46 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.

They are demeaning their own fields.  The worse one of all time is
"vector."  Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point.  Get it?  It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..
Actually, a disease vector is something that carries the disease and
seems a better application of the latin word for "bearer" than
something with magnitude and direction.
 
Cahill:
They are demeaning their own fields.  The worse one of all time is
"vector."  Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point.  Get it?  It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..
Shooting yourself in the foot again? Debunking scientific theory.
Next you'll be saying the vector of temperature is a conspiracy!

How about personifying politics as if they are an extension of
yourself? In that case you can bend and twist any of news to suit your
personal needs!
 
On Dec 13, 10:10 pm, turtoni <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote:
Cahill:
They are demeaning their own fields.  The worse one of all time is
"vector."  Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point.  Get it?  It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..

Shooting yourself in the foot again? Debunking scientific theory.
Next you'll be saying the vector of temperature is a conspiracy!

How about personifying politics as if they are an extension of
yourself? In that case you can bend and twist any of news to suit your
personal needs!
Personifying politics as if they are an extension of yourself
is an interesting conception, particularly in light of the idea
that your self itself is an illusion. That sounds like a prescription
for anarchy.
 
On Dec 13, 10:02 pm, M Purcell <sacsca...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 13, 9:46 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:





Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.

They are demeaning their own fields.  The worse one of all time is
"vector."  Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point.  Get it?  It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..

Actually, a disease vector is something that carries the disease and
seems a better application of the latin word for "bearer" than
something with magnitude and direction.
The etymology is Latin. (Latin: quantity having magnitude and
direction;
carrier, bearer, conveyer; from past participle stem of vehere "to
carry, to
convey")

Regardless, it doesn't matter. This is rather like
"overloading," in computer science, wherein two
methods with the same name have different signatures.
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.

They are demeaning their own fields.  The worse one of all time is
"vector."  Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point.  Get it?  It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..

Actually, a disease vector is something that carries the disease and
seems a better application of the latin word for "bearer" than
something with magnitude and direction.
A dot product should take care of the problem.


Bret Cahill
 
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:02:14 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.
---
Hopefully it'll be the one that connects you to USENET.

Here:

Since you obviously don't understand _any_ scientific discipline, or its
underpinnings, it's unlikely that you'd be able to grasp the reason for
the sharing and, perhaps, the subtle change of meaning of a word from
one discipline to the next.

For example, in your rather limited vocabulary the word 'clamp' no doubt
means only a device used to hold an object in a fixed position; a "C"
clamp, say.

In circuit design, its meaning broadens to include devices/circuits
which act to limit currents and voltage to some maximum fixed value.
That is, to "clamp" (limit) them to that value if they try to rise
(fall) beyond it, but to allow them to vary as they will below (above)
that value.

A good example would be the clamp diodes used on the inputs of CMOS
integrated circuits:

(View in Courier)


Vcc>------+
|K
[DIODE]D1
| D
Vin>------+------G NFET
|K S
[DIODE]D2
|
GND>------+
\
0V

Now, should Vin rise above Vcc it will be clamped to Vcc + Vf(D1), and
should it fall to below GND it will be clamped to 0V - Vf(D2).

Another good example would be a simple Zener diode clamp:

Vin----[R1]--+-->E2
|K
[ZENER] ZD1
|
GND----------+-->0V

where, with a perfect knee, E2 would be equal to Vin until Vin rose to
= 5V, at which point E2 would clamp Vin to 5V with R1 dropping the
difference between Vin and E2.

JF
 
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
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Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.


Bret Cahill
My favorite is "quantum leap." By the standards of quantum mechanics, that
should be the smallest possible jump like that of a single photon or
electron yet in popular parlance, it is a huge move or change. Of course,
physics has a way of taking every day words and adopting them for its own
purposes. One word that comes to mind is "charm" to characterize sub-atomic
particles. I guess quantum is like that, quantum- quantity implying a large
amount becomes infinitesimally small in the land of physics, go figure. So
who's right? Clearly 20th century physics came after established English.
Electronics came way after as well. So who is borrowing from whom?
 
Bob Eld wrote:
"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:57e11715-09bd-4bf4-b6ea-0e731b789b0b@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.


Bret Cahill


My favorite is "quantum leap." By the standards of quantum mechanics, that
should be the smallest possible jump like that of a single photon or
electron yet in popular parlance, it is a huge move or change. Of course,
physics has a way of taking every day words and adopting them for its own
purposes. One word that comes to mind is "charm" to characterize sub-atomic
particles. I guess quantum is like that, quantum- quantity implying a large
amount becomes infinitesimally small in the land of physics, go figure. So
who's right? Clearly 20th century physics came after established English.
Electronics came way after as well. So who is borrowing from whom?


Sounds like the Obama administration. They just make it up as they go along.
 
Bret Cahill wrote:

Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.


They are demeaning their own fields. The worse one of all time is
"vector." Supposedly a disease gets started at one point and goes to
another point. Get it? It's like a vector!

If 50 million have already had swine flu, using vectors to prove the
law of cosines ain't gonna save their sorry fannies..


Bret Cahill


Ok, What about Vectors in C/C++ :)
 
On Dec 14, 9:00 am, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bret Cahill" <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote in message

news:57e11715-09bd-4bf4-b6ea-0e731b789b0b@d9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...





Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Bret Cahill

My favorite is "quantum leap." By the standards of quantum mechanics, that
should be the smallest possible jump like that of a single photon or
electron yet in popular parlance, it is a huge move or change. Of course,
physics has a way of taking every day words and adopting them for its own
purposes. One word that comes to mind is "charm" to characterize sub-atomic
particles. I guess quantum is like that, quantum- quantity implying a large
amount becomes infinitesimally small in the land of physics, go figure. So
who's right? Clearly 20th century physics came after established English.
Electronics came way after as well. So who is borrowing from whom?
Perhaps physicist realized this conflict when they coined the term
"quark", who else would want to sound like a love sick duck?
 
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:39:15 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:02:14 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need. Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

---
Hopefully it'll be the one that connects you to USENET.

Here:

Since you obviously don't understand _any_ scientific discipline, or its
underpinnings, it's unlikely that you'd be able to grasp the reason for
the sharing and, perhaps, the subtle change of meaning of a word from
one discipline to the next.

For example, in your rather limited vocabulary the word 'clamp' no doubt
means only a device used to hold an object in a fixed position; a "C"
clamp, say.

In circuit design, its meaning broadens to include devices/circuits
which act to limit currents and voltage to some maximum fixed value.
That is, to "clamp" (limit) them to that value if they try to rise
(fall) beyond it, but to allow them to vary as they will below (above)
that value.

A good example would be the clamp diodes used on the inputs of CMOS
integrated circuits:

(View in Courier)


Vcc>------+
|K
[DIODE]D1
| D
Vin>------+------G NFET
|K S
[DIODE]D2
|
GND>------+
\
0V

Now, should Vin rise above Vcc it will be clamped to Vcc + Vf(D1), and
should it fall to below GND it will be clamped to 0V - Vf(D2).

Another good example would be a simple Zener diode clamp:

Vin----[R1]--+-->E2
|K
[ZENER] ZD1
|
GND----------+-->0V

where, with a perfect knee, E2 would be equal to Vin until Vin rose to
= 5V, at which point E2 would clamp Vin to 5V with R1 dropping the
difference between Vin and E2.
---
Rather, "at which point ZD1 would clamp E2 to 5V with R1 dropping the
difference between Vin and E2."

JF
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Make that "break a shear pin."

The pervasiveness of Newtonian terms is interesting, perhaps it
indicates a deterministic bent.
Everyone wants "truth" to 20 decimal place precision. If they ever
tried for more than one or two sig figs in medicine it would close all
the hospitals.

This mentality is driven both directly and indirectly by the
fundytarian mind set that everything is either black or white when it
come knowledge.

Either you are omniscient or you are 100% ignorant. Either you are
JayeEEesus or you are Satan.

If the "evolutionists" don't have a missing link yet it "proves"
evolution isn't happening.

If the "AGW hoaxers" don't have 3 sig fig accuracy yet it "proves"
global warming isn't happening and/or isn't a problem.


Bret Cahill
 
Someone has to put his foot down.

No more "turbo" computer chips.

No more "vectors" in medicine.

No more "forcing functions" in atmospheric research.

No more "statics" in economics.

I've had it up to here [I'm pointing to my eyebrows] with other fields
abusing terms from Newtonian physics.

Electronics has all sexy words you'll ever need.  Go bug them for
awhile.

And the next time I hear a circuit designer use the word "clamp" I'm
going to blow a fuse.

Bret Cahill

My favorite is "quantum leap." By the standards of quantum mechanics, that
should be the smallest possible jump like that of a single photon or
electron yet in popular parlance, it is a huge move or change. Of course,
physics has a way of taking every day words and adopting them for its own
purposes. One word that comes to mind is "charm" to characterize sub-atomic
particles. I guess quantum is like that, quantum- quantity implying a large
amount becomes infinitesimally small in the land of physics, go figure. So
who's right? Clearly 20th century physics came after established English.
Electronics came way after as well. So who is borrowing from whom?
Just adopt words from outside science or technology.

When Nietzsche predicted the wars of the 20th Century he asked
permission to lift terms:

". . . . the very next century when Russia, if I may borrow a term
from our physicists, will 'discharge' herself . . ."

He didn't make it a permanent part of his language. In fact he never
used that term again in any of his work.


Bret Cahill
 

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