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Fred Bloggs

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Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934

That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 07:57:38 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934

\"Scientists don\'t fully understand...\"

Hilarious.

Are they serious about the 13.8c number?

But climate change killed off all human life decades ago. We\'re all
bots now.
 
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 11:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis

More Guardian climate porn.

The wildflowers are blinding, reportedly visible from satellites.
Trees are intense green and going wild. It\'s a beautiful day for a
walk.
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:04:23 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis

Don\'t be silly. Some ocean temperatures will be high, but there\'s a lot of ocean out there, and the only part we can measure easily is the
surface. The depths of the oceans will take a lot longer to warm up. The Argo buoys do document that, and you aren\'t reporting worrying about what they have been sending back.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:56:17 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 11:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis

More Guardian climate porn.

Scarcely porn. Fred Bloggs is spinning it as predicting some kind of short term disaster, but his gloom and doom is just as silly as your Pollyanna attitude.

It would be nice if you both behaved a bit more like adults, but that\'s too much to hope for.

> The wildflowers are blinding, reportedly visible from satellites. Trees are intense green and going wild. It\'s a beautiful day for a walk.

Enjoy it while it lasts, and it will probably outlast you.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:04:23 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis
Don\'t be silly. Some ocean temperatures will be high, but there\'s a lot of ocean out there, and the only part we can measure easily is the
surface. The depths of the oceans will take a lot longer to warm up. The Argo buoys do document that, and you aren\'t reporting worrying about what they have been sending back.

Actually the ocean is quite finite. Basic physics dictates an increased air temperature to conduct heat into a warmer water. The Earth is turning into an inferno.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-ocean-heat-content

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:29:12 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:04:23 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis

Don\'t be silly. Some ocean temperatures will be high, but there\'s a lot of ocean out there, and the only part we can measure easily is the
surface. The depths of the oceans will take a lot longer to warm up. The Argo buoys do document that, and you aren\'t reporting worrying about what they have been sending back.

Actually the ocean is quite finite.

Of course it it finite, but getting hysterical because bits of the surface are getting unusually warm is pretty silly.

>Basic physics dictates an increased air temperature to conduct heat into a warmer water. The Earth is turning into an inferno.

Actually basic physics dictates that heat will only be conducted into water cooler than the source. The surface of the earth is only going to get warmer to the extent that lets the effective radiating altitude up in the atmosphere stay at -18C. That isn\'t going to turn the planet into an \"inferno\".

All extra CO2 does is move the effective radiating altitude up a bit. It messes up weather patterns, and the extra water vapour evaporating off the surface of the warmer oceans makes for more energetic weather when it condenses as rain and shifts its latent heat of condensation into more energetic winds.

> https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-ocean-heat-content

So what. There\'s more heat in a warmer ocean, but all it is doing is driving a bit more evaporation. Inferno\'s are whole lot hotter than that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:02:35?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:04:23?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Scientists don\'t fully understand why this has happened.

As usual, by the time it\'s upon them, it\'s too late to do anything about.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65339934
That probably is climate alarmism.

The El Nino / la Nina alternation is one of a bunch of known effects driven by ocean currents.

We know about the currents of the surfaces of the oceans, but the deep return currents are still a mystery - the 3000-odd Argo buoys have been collecting data since about 2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_(oceanography)

but there\'s a lot ocean depths out there, and we still don\'t know enough to claim to know what\'s going on.

Doing something about it - apart from not pushing up the CO2 levels in the atmosphere even more - is still someway off.

Near term predictions for 2023 were already dire without consideration of the new finding about ocean temperatures being off the charts. Life on Earth is in big trouble now that the biggest heat sink isn\'t going to be there for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jan/16/return-of-el-nino-will-cause-off-the-chart-temperature-rise-climate-crisis
Don\'t be silly. Some ocean temperatures will be high, but there\'s a lot of ocean out there, and the only part we can measure easily is the
surface. The depths of the oceans will take a lot longer to warm up. The Argo buoys do document that, and you aren\'t reporting worrying about what they have been sending back.

Actually the ocean is quite finite. Basic physics dictates an increased air temperature to conduct heat into a warmer water. The Earth is turning into an inferno.

No, you are turning into a terrified depressive.

I think the Earth is getting better. Ice ages, even little ones, are
not fun.
 
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 1:47:52 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:02:35?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:04:23?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:25:48?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 12:57:42?AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:

<snip>

No, you are turning into a terrified depressive.

I think the Earth is getting better. Ice ages, even little ones, are not fun.

Anthropogenic global warming has made the transition to an ice age pretty much impossible, but it would make more sense to store up the fossil carbon until we start seeing signs of an incipient transition to an ice age. The current level of global warming is creating problems - even if you don\'t want to think about them - and more would create worse problems.

Climate change denial propaganda is merely aimed at letting the fossil carbon extraction industry stay profitable for longer than it should. We can\'t sue the Murdoch media for spreading it, which is a pity.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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