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Almost. Actually it's "Free beer!" in their native tongue...!@#!@$%!!@$#@# in the programmer's native tongue
Care to support that view with any numbers?
I have done a fair bit of embedded, its was all in C.
Its not that bad, imo, for most products. Time to market is probably the
I don't know what the number of asm programmers there are, but I bet its
There is a knew jerk thought of asm=embedded, i.e. memory and speed, but
One issue here is, did it need to be? Old habits die hard. Its hard to
Assembler.
a year or so ago, embedded systems design magazine had some numbers, which
There is a layer of hacking you can do by counting cycles. I doubt if it's
Why would an analog geek have anything to do with "bits"?
I agree. I don't see any real connection. Analogue is abouta year or so ago, embedded systems design magazine had some numbers,
which I think they got from a readers poll. I don't remember the
exact numbers, but it was "shockingly" high-- something like 70%--
is still assembly code.
There is a layer of hacking you can do by counting cycles. I doubt
if it's an important part of the market, but it sure is handy if you
are working on that type of problem.
I write more assembly than anything else-- but I am an analog
engineer so working with the "fiddly bits" comes natural.
Why would an analog geek have anything to do with "bits"?
That depends on the complexity of the project, and on the type of chip. On
And of these millions of C programs, less than 1% have the experiance or
Again, that depends on the chips you are working with - I would not expect
It is difficult to determine a good C programmer from a bad one when looking
In the embedded world, there are many more assembly programmers than that
Memory is dirt cheap on large systems - it is not cheap on small systems.
Cant agree with this at all. I don't see that size makes any difference
This is a valid point, if that is indeed the case. I am sceptical on
Oh, come on now. Don't agree here at all. What's a weeks engineering
well, I cant really comment on how often this is the case. But, again,
Yes real projects.
Crap. Smacks of elitism to me. Your view here is simple not credible. A
Well, only goes to show that they are a lot of unqualified people
Agreed.
In my opinion, this opinion of yours is total crap. I think your idea of
Old habits die hard.
I wouldn't, unless you restricted to like, 1k of memory. There's a lot
Valid point, but grasping a bit I think.
I am not really addressing those tiny 4k embedded stuff. I'm talking
A great many embedded projects are done with the smallest controllers money
It is, imo, for many tasks.
Oh. I see. And your evidence for that would be?
No idea what your talking about. I have never written a compiler. I
So you claim. Now why do I find this hard to believe. Secondly, so what
Oh get real dude.
That's correct, one designs for the particular system that was in
Ahmmm..
And you propose that degree educated CS people are all so daft to not
Ho hummm. Blatant elitism. The idea that a good programmer cannot adapt,
I agree, that if one is stuck with such a problem, it may be a tad
Wow, aint you a clever little boy then. Yeah, so your the only one in
Of course I know this. Its trivial, and yes, you are correct, I have
I agree.