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I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.
 
markbra...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?

** ROTFL !!!!

Electronics is simply a TECHNOLOGY.

The term came into wide use about the time of WW2 to encompass the then very new technologies of radio, radar, TV and computers - all based on vacuum tubes / valves.

Obviously you have no idea what "art" is either.

Maybe try Google and Wiki.



.... Phil
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700, <markbradley2006@yahoo.com> wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and
part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

Explain to whom? Are you being paid to do this? No? Why bother?

Perhaps of interesting note, science is pretty well defined, but art? not
so much.

Even with your 'broad brush' question can't help but try to answer,
Buckminster Fuller said that he could tell if his work was 'correct'
because when he got done and it looked good, it was correct. Now THERE is
art in science.

Ok, in a snippet, the technology part is science. The functional part is
art.

When electronics is done 'right' it is a true work of art, a beauty to
behold.
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700, markbradley2006 wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and
part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human problem
is art.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
markbradley2006@yahoo.com wrote:
I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part
science
and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in
advance.

This is how I see it:
Electronics is applied science. The approach used in applying the
science may be viewed as an art. And the art may be good or bad,
clumsy or elegant.
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700 (PDT), markbradley2006@yahoo.com
wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

Done right, it's more art than science.

Rock musicians use lights and amps and speakers, but that doesn't make
them scientists.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
 
On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700, markbradley2006 wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and
part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human problem
is art.

+1

Troubleshooting is also a science, because there's a right answer out
there, and we can all agree when it's found--the circuit starts working.

Design is an art, because there are lots of different ways to do just
about everything in electronics, and how it turns out depends a great
deal on the expertise and even the personality of the designer.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
In article <0bbee5e6-ef0b-41c4-a3e6-db40d3c559d6@googlegroups.com>,
markbradley2006@yahoo.com says...
I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

It's quite simple really, the science is how it works
and the art is what you can do with it.

Now you have those that can spit out science all day
long but can't do a damn thing with it.

Then you have those that can make things (art) and may
not fully understand the science, but it does not matter,
they understand enough in their own way to make work the
way they want.

Then you have those that can do both, watch out for that
group, they're usually grumpy and eccentric.


Jamie
 
Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. wrote:
In article
0bbee5e6-ef0b-41c4-a3e6-db40d3c559d6@googlegroups.com>,
markbradley2006@yahoo.com says...

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part
science
and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in
advance.

It's quite simple really, the science is how it works
and the art is what you can do with it.

Now you have those that can spit out science all day
long but can't do a damn thing with it.

Then you have those that can make things (art) and may
not fully understand the science, but it does not matter,
they understand enough in their own way to make work the
way they want.

Then you have those that can do both, watch out for that
group, they're usually grumpy and eccentric.

I like that last part. :)
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:27:08 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700, markbradley2006 wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and
part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human problem
is art.

Nice, I was going to say that art has lots of nice colors, which translates to:

The schematic is science, the pcb is art.

(Not really true since there is art in the schematic too.)

George H.
--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:57:07 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human problem
is art.

+1

Troubleshooting is also a science, because there's a right answer out
there, and we can all agree when it's found--the circuit starts working.

Design is an art, because there are lots of different ways to do just
about everything in electronics, and how it turns out depends a grea
deal on the expertise and even the personality of the designer.

I like that too. I'm always looking for the right word to describe trouble shooting a new design.* (Something you think should work, but doesn't on the first cut.) I sit there, brain flailing around, is it a bad solder joint, some issue with an IC that I missed in the spec sheet, or a fundamental mistake on my part? Searching for "the problem" at all levels of the design.

George H.

*Debugging is close but lacks the right "flavor".
Cheers



Phil Hobbs





--

Dr Philip C D Hobbs

Principal Consultant

ElectroOptical Innovations LLC

Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics



160 North State Road #203

Briarcliff Manor NY 10510



hobbs at electrooptical dot net

http://electrooptical.net
 
On 9/11/2014 12:21 AM, markbradley2006@yahoo.com wrote:
I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

First year electronics student?
 
On 9/13/2014 9:36 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:57:07 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is
science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human
problem is art.

+1

Troubleshooting is also a science, because there's a right answer
out there, and we can all agree when it's found--the circuit starts
working.

Design is an art, because there are lots of different ways to do
just about everything in electronics, and how it turns out depends
a grea deal on the expertise and even the personality of the
designer.

I like that too. I'm always looking for the right word to describe
trouble shooting a new design.* (Something you think should work,
but doesn't on the first cut.) I sit there, brain flailing around,
is it a bad solder joint, some issue with an IC that I missed in the
spec sheet, or a fundamental mistake on my part? Searching for "the
problem" at all levels of the design.

George H.

*Debugging is close but lacks the right "flavor".

Debugging and prototyping are the usual ways of describing it, but
sometimes "late stage design" is more accurate. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:53:31 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 9/13/2014 9:36 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:57:07 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is
science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human
problem is art.

+1

Troubleshooting is also a science, because there's a right answer
out there, and we can all agree when it's found--the circuit starts
working.

Design is an art, because there are lots of different ways to do
just about everything in electronics, and how it turns out depends
a grea deal on the expertise and even the personality of the
designer.

I like that too. I'm always looking for the right word to describe
trouble shooting a new design.* (Something you think should work,
but doesn't on the first cut.) I sit there, brain flailing around,
is it a bad solder joint, some issue with an IC that I missed in the
spec sheet, or a fundamental mistake on my part? Searching for "the
problem" at all levels of the design.

George H.

*Debugging is close but lacks the right "flavor".

Debugging and prototyping are the usual ways of describing it, but
sometimes "late stage design" is more accurate. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

"Optimization" >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:53:31 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 9/13/2014 9:36 AM, George Herold wrote:
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:57:07 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 9/11/2014 2:27 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:

The part where you're describing how a circuit or system works is
science.

The part where you're making a circuit or system to solve a human
problem is art.

+1

Troubleshooting is also a science, because there's a right answer out
there, and we can all agree when it's found--the circuit starts
working.

Design is an art, because there are lots of different ways to do just
about everything in electronics, and how it turns out depends a grea
deal on the expertise and even the personality of the designer.

I like that too. I'm always looking for the right word to describe
trouble shooting a new design.* (Something you think should work, but
doesn't on the first cut.) I sit there, brain flailing around, is it a
bad solder joint, some issue with an IC that I missed in the spec
sheet, or a fundamental mistake on my part? Searching for "the
problem" at all levels of the design.

George H.

*Debugging is close but lacks the right "flavor".

Debugging and prototyping are the usual ways of describing it, but
sometimes "late stage design" is more accurate. ;)

Ouch. That's too honest, though.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
<markbradley2006@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and
part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

The science part is figuring out how the circuit works. The art part is
constructing a circuit board and assembly so it looks impressive.

-Bill




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On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:21:30 PM UTC-7, markbra...@yahoo.com wrote:
I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?

Thanks in advance.

Well, HIB Beveridge makes the case that science itself is mostly an art. See his (recently reprinted!) book "The Art of Scientific Investigation.

So, is electronics design a science that is an art? Or, if electronics design involves a single "correct-answer design" produced by software ...then ask whether or not Science is an Electronics!
 
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:30 -0700 (PDT), markbradley2006@yahoo.com
wrote:

I need to explain if electronics is science or art. Or part science and part art. Which part is science and which part is art?
Thanks in advance.

The chemical composition of paint is science. How a brush and canvas
is constructed and composed of is science. What you do with them is
art.
 

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