Electric Oven Wire keeps burning out!...

[bruce bowser]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 1:02:42 AM UTC-4, cfidad wrote in alt.home.repair:

The yellow wire to the bottom heating element of my Maytag PER4310BAQ
keeps burning out. The oven stops heating up and I find the last
inch of wire charred black where it connects to the heating element.
I have replaced the heating element once with a factory replacement,
but the problem continues. I am concerned that just cutting the wire
and crimping it once again to the heating element connector will
eventually cause an unsafe condition with the exposed wire touching
other parts. My intention is to find the cause for the repeated
burning out of the same wire. Does anyone out there have the
expertise to tell me what to fix to prevent this problem from
continuing?
Thank you in advance for your input.

The best bet is to call an electrician in the phone book.

 

[RosemontCrest]

On 7/13/21 10:44 AM, bruce bowser wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 1:02:42 AM UTC-4, cfidad wrote in alt.home.repair:
The yellow wire to the bottom heating element of my Maytag PER4310BAQ
keeps burning out. The oven stops heating up and I find the last
inch of wire charred black where it connects to the heating element.
I have replaced the heating element once with a factory replacement,
but the problem continues. I am concerned that just cutting the wire
and crimping it once again to the heating element connector will
eventually cause an unsafe condition with the exposed wire touching
other parts. My intention is to find the cause for the repeated
burning out of the same wire. Does anyone out there have the
expertise to tell me what to fix to prevent this problem from
continuing?
Thank you in advance for your input.

The best bet is to call an electrician in the phone book.

That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

 

[Jim Whitby]

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 10:44:38 -0700, bruce bowser wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 1:02:42 AM UTC-4, cfidad wrote in
alt.home.repair:

<snip>

The best bet is to call an electrician in the phone book.
Did you perchance miss the date of the request?

It was 15+ years ago.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:

On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 1:02:42 AM UTC-4, cfidad wrote in alt.home.repair:
The yellow wire to the bottom heating element of my Maytag PER4310BAQ
keeps burning out. The oven stops heating up and I find the last
inch of wire charred black where it connects to the heating element.
I have replaced the heating element once with a factory replacement,
but the problem continues.

The best bet is to call an electrician in the phone book.

Appliance repairman would be more apropos, but... there\'s often shortage of
factory-stock items that DO go bad with age. An \'authorized\' repairman can\'t
always use non-factory items.

So, you can replace the last inch or two of wire with new high-temp wire
(or just fiberglas spaghetti over a bare wire), and you can make the
element connection with something other than a crimp.
I like silver solder (jewelry-making supplies, it only takes a few milligrams
of Ag alloy) with appropriate (solder salts) flux and a propane torch.
Lap the wire and electrode, wrap with a thin copper strand to hold it,
flux, crimp a silver bit onto it, and get it redhot.

Spot-welding works, too, when the temperature doesn\'t serve crimps well,
but most of us don\'t have that apparatus handy.

 

[Michael Trew]

On 7/13/2021 1:58 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:
> That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people online,
that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I\'ve chalked
up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as anywhere from
inferior to total scam artist at this point.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <scn0qj$ce5$9@dont-email.me>, mt999999@ymail.com says...

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people online,
that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I\'ve chalked
up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as anywhere from
inferior to total scam artist at this point.

There is something on the internet called Next Door Neighbor. Just a
big bullliten board where you can post most anything. I have asked on
there for several contractors and plumbers and painters. So far every
one people on there recommend have been execellent.
Most people like the painter does not not need to advertise as they stay
busy by word of mouth. Took me 2 months before I could get a painter as
he was that far behind. Same with a concrete company to pour a pad for
a garage. Once they got started they were here every day on time wether
permitting.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <scn0qj$ce5$9@dont-email.me>, mt999999@ymail.com says...

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people online,
that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I\'ve chalked
up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as anywhere from
inferior to total scam artist at this point.

There is something on the internet called Next Door Neighbor. Just a
big bullliten board where you can post most anything. I have asked on
there for several contractors and plumbers and painters. So far every
one people on there recommend have been execellent.
Most people like the painter does not not need to advertise as they stay
busy by word of mouth. Took me 2 months before I could get a painter as
he was that far behind. Same with a concrete company to pour a pad for
a garage. Once they got started they were here every day on time wether
permitting.

 

[amdx]

On 7/14/2021 10:45 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

On 7/13/2021 1:58 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:
That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people
online, that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I\'ve
chalked up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as
anywhere from inferior to total scam artist at this point.

 About 40 years ago, we had 5 or 6 electronic repair shops in the area.
Every year the yellow page ads got bigger and more expensive.

One of the repair shop owners put a meeting together of all the shop
owners and proposed everyone get the same size small, inexpensive phone
book ad.

And they did! It worked for several years until one of them bought a
bigger ad and then the next year everyone went back to the bigger more
expensive ads.

Mikek


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[amdx]

On 7/14/2021 10:45 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

On 7/13/2021 1:58 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:
That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people
online, that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I\'ve
chalked up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as
anywhere from inferior to total scam artist at this point.

 About 40 years ago, we had 5 or 6 electronic repair shops in the area.
Every year the yellow page ads got bigger and more expensive.

One of the repair shop owners put a meeting together of all the shop
owners and proposed everyone get the same size small, inexpensive phone
book ad.

And they did! It worked for several years until one of them bought a
bigger ad and then the next year everyone went back to the bigger more
expensive ads.

Mikek


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[John Robertson]

On 2021/07/14 8:45 a.m., Michael Trew wrote:

On 7/13/2021 1:58 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:
That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people online,
that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor.  I\'ve chalked
up anyone that doesn\'t advertise in the yellow pages as anywhere from
inferior to total scam artist at this point.

I have a rule-of-thumb when dealing with unknown companies - if they
don\'t list their physical address on their web site (google street view
that address) along with a phone number then I usually won\'t bother with
them.

John :-#)#

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <SLadnSdMdKZupXL9nZ2dnUU7-aXNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
spam@flippers.com says...

I have a rule-of-thumb when dealing with unknown companies - if they
don\'t list their physical address on their web site (google street view
that address) along with a phone number then I usually won\'t bother with
them.

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that
show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking
out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

 

[Peter W.]

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that
show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking
out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

And why Google Earth exists.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Peter W.]

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that
show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking
out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

And why Google Earth exists.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <4b863895-443f-4838-bd9a-d40e4b134e37n@googlegroups.com>,
peterwieck33@gmail.com says...

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that
show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking
out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

And why Google Earth exists.

What good does Google Eatth do ? It just shows there is a store at that
address. If I say I will be shipping from that store, it does not mean
I actually will.

I have seen many ads pop up on Face Book and if you look them up there
will be a store at that place. Try checking out some of the liquadition
sales that pop up. Most of them will show you a store, but if you
contact that store directly they will tell you you are being scammed by
someone else and that was not their ad.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <4b863895-443f-4838-bd9a-d40e4b134e37n@googlegroups.com>,
peterwieck33@gmail.com says...

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that
show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking
out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

And why Google Earth exists.

What good does Google Eatth do ? It just shows there is a store at that
address. If I say I will be shipping from that store, it does not mean
I actually will.

I have seen many ads pop up on Face Book and if you look them up there
will be a store at that place. Try checking out some of the liquadition
sales that pop up. Most of them will show you a store, but if you
contact that store directly they will tell you you are being scammed by
someone else and that was not their ad.

 

[Ron D.]

I think the problem is crimping. Crimping is not for solid wire. the best method is probably spot welding or specifically Capacitance Discharge Welding. You have a hand-held wand that can make those connections.

 

[Peter W.]

Signage. Truck decals. Adjacent addresses. Much can be learned.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Peter W.]

Signage. Truck decals. Adjacent addresses. Much can be learned.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 5:51:48 PM UTC-4, Peter W. wrote:
> Signage. Truck decals. Adjacent addresses. Much can be learned.

Much can be faked by claiming the address of a legitimate business, as well.. Around here, people were advertising enclosed trailers as being sold by existing businesses, but they didn\'t run the ads. I\'ve reported one to the FBI for Wire Fraud, after contacting the FTC.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 5:51:48 PM UTC-4, Peter W. wrote:
> Signage. Truck decals. Adjacent addresses. Much can be learned.

Much can be faked by claiming the address of a legitimate business, as well.. Around here, people were advertising enclosed trailers as being sold by existing businesses, but they didn\'t run the ads. I\'ve reported one to the FBI for Wire Fraud, after contacting the FTC.