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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a standard DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?
Is it that easy ?
 
"William Hogan" <Willie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a standard DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?
**Yep.

Is it that easy ?
**Yep.

UNLESS that DVD you're trying to copy is copy protected (which is 99.999% of
them). Then you're screwed. No DVD recorder will allow copying from a
copyright source. In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from
certain VHS tapes. The only way you can circumvent it, is to copy them on a
computer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
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** Hey, TW, welcome back !!

I can see your posts again on both TPG and NIN.

Will such wonders ever cease.





............... Phil
 
I'm actually able to play commercial VHS tapes into my Panasonic DVD
recorder. It's 100% factory clean - no region or firmware hacks or
anything like that. No problems with Foxtel either, I've seen some
complaints about people having difficulty recording from the movie
channels due to them broadcasting with Macrovision, but my DVD recorder
doesn't skip a beat.

Maybe it's just luck that the input circuitry happens to thwart
Macrovision? I purchased it from DSE.
 
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I'm actually able to play commercial VHS tapes into my Panasonic DVD
recorder. It's 100% factory clean - no region or firmware hacks or
anything like that. No problems with Foxtel either, I've seen some
complaints about people having difficulty recording from the movie
channels due to them broadcasting with Macrovision, but my DVD recorder
doesn't skip a beat.

Maybe it's just luck that the input circuitry happens to thwart
Macrovision? I purchased it from DSE.
**Not likely. Focus on these words:

In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from certain VHS tapes.

^^^^^


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www.rageaudio.com.au
 
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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a standard
DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?

**Yep.

Is it that easy ?

**Yep.

UNLESS that DVD you're trying to copy is copy protected (which is 99.999%
of
them). Then you're screwed. No DVD recorder will allow copying from a
copyright source. In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from
certain VHS tapes. The only way you can circumvent it, is to copy them on
a
computer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.
 
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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a standard
DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?

**Yep.

Is it that easy ?

**Yep.

UNLESS that DVD you're trying to copy is copy protected (which is 99.999%
of
them). Then you're screwed. No DVD recorder will allow copying from a
copyright source. In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from
certain VHS tapes. The only way you can circumvent it, is to copy them on
a
computer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.
**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.
Why?

Cheers,
Nicholas Sherlock
 
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"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


Why?
**Copy protection, I presume.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
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Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


Why?


**Copy protection, I presume.
The only copy protection I'm aware of in the video signal, (which is
what you're trying to copy), is the Macrovision.

A stabiliser _might_ remove this - there are various versions of
Macrovision, the later ones are more resistant. I believe they're up to
version 4.

Dave
 
The better "video stabilisers" will allow copying of ALL DVDs via composite or
s-video. Anti-copying such as Macrovision is just part of of the video signal
and so can easily be removed.

The only problem now is if you try to copy them using the digital signal sockets
(if your DVD recorder has one). The codes for that have been broken but similar
"stabilisers" are not currently available.

Dave wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:

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Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.


**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


Why?



**Copy protection, I presume.


The only copy protection I'm aware of in the video signal, (which is
what you're trying to copy), is the Macrovision.

A stabiliser _might_ remove this - there are various versions of
Macrovision, the later ones are more resistant. I believe they're up to
version 4.

Dave
 
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"William Hogan" <Willie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a
standard
DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?

**Yep.

Is it that easy ?

**Yep.

UNLESS that DVD you're trying to copy is copy protected (which is
99.999%
of
them). Then you're screwed. No DVD recorder will allow copying from a
copyright source. In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from
certain VHS tapes. The only way you can circumvent it, is to copy them
on
a
computer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
What does it do when you try to record?
Does the machine say its copy protected, or is it attempting to record and
when you play it back its not watchable.
Is it a Format issue?
EG NTSC Vs Pal or something like that?
because the CCR9 seems to fix all the 'copy protection' problems?
Allan
 
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"William Hogan" <Willie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If I buy a DVD Recorder, can I just plug leads into it from a
standard
DVd
player, and copy a DVD ?

**Yep.

Is it that easy ?

**Yep.

UNLESS that DVD you're trying to copy is copy protected (which is
99.999%
of
them). Then you're screwed. No DVD recorder will allow copying from a
copyright source. In fact, DVD recorders won't even allow copying from
certain VHS tapes. The only way you can circumvent it, is to copy them
on
a
computer.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


What does it do when you try to record?
**It records for about 5 mins, then shuts down, issing a warning that the
tapes are copyright.

Does the machine say its copy protected, or is it attempting to record and
when you play it back its not watchable
**I already feed the signal through a Macrovision remover. The recording is
quite watchable. The DVD recorder detects something else. I have found three
(NTSC) tapes which do this, so far.
..
Is it a Format issue?
**No.

EG NTSC Vs Pal or something like that?
because the CCR9 seems to fix all the 'copy protection' problems?

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
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Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


Why?


**Copy protection, I presume.

The only copy protection I'm aware of in the video signal, (which is
what you're trying to copy), is the Macrovision.
**I use a Macrovision remover. The problem is not with that.

A stabiliser _might_ remove this - there are various versions of
Macrovision, the later ones are more resistant. I believe they're up to
version 4.
**Perhaps that is the problem.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Nicholas Sherlock" <n_sherlock@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Allan" <allanaws@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Use a Video stabiliser b/t the two, it will remove macrovision.

**It will, but the recorder will still not record to DVD in most cases.


Why?


**Copy protection, I presume.

The only copy protection I'm aware of in the video signal, (which is
what you're trying to copy), is the Macrovision.

**I use a Macrovision remover. The problem is not with that.


A stabiliser _might_ remove this - there are various versions of
Macrovision, the later ones are more resistant. I believe they're up to
version 4.

**Perhaps that is the problem.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
There is a fairly good explanation here

http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/dvdvideo/dvdvid_copyprot.htm

and here

http://stream.uen.org/medsol/dvd/pages/dvdvid_features_copyprot.html

There are dozens of other sites covering copy protection systems.
 

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