DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

[Rod Speed]

"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:vksn9bpru6arek7dvg298pujfamvs552s3@4ax.com...

On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 19:46:09 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 17/01/2016 12:28 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:45:10 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com
wrote:

On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which I'm at
the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated? I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a bearing on
performance.


You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital signals
differs and you are applying analog signal principles to digital
devices
and connections.

Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting with
your silly nonsense.
So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.

He's trolling. No longer any doubt about it as far I am concerned.


If\ don't think that he is trolling, he is just as stupid as he appears.

I thought so too for a while, but he always throws in some ridiculous
claim or accusation that is clearly in contradiction of what he's replying
to.

What he's actually trying to do is desperately attempt to come up
with even more mindless silly shit like the most recent shit about
the cables making a difference. Absolutely classic mindless silly
shit that is the reason that Monster scam has lasted for so long.

> Bait, in other words.

Nope, just terminal stupidity.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:2ssn9bhd4h0ca9m46o3ba0ogu768bg7lef@4ax.com...

On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:21:15 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 17/01/2016 11:02 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 11:35 AM, Je?us wrote:

Yep, time to ignore the wanker as far I'm concerned.

good idea. all the ppl like you who have nothing better to do than find
fault with me can piss off. I'm still here to talk to anyone who wants
to have a sensible discussion.


You wouldn't know sensible discussion if it was rammed up your arse

You'll note that since he posted the above (and says it's a good idea
that I'm ignoring him), he has since replied to me at least a dozen times.

Because you keep pointing and laughing at his terminal stupiditys
and keep claiming that he is a troll and implying he is lying.

> Nah, he's no troll, is he?

Not in the classic sense of deliberately misrepresenting
what he believe JUST to produce a shit fight.

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dg2cn2Ft395U1@mid.individual.net...

On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which I'm
at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated?

no answer I see

I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a bearing on
performance.
You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital signals
differs

am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
please..

and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices and
connections.

so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI cable
and
then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's not so.
you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for example, I
suppose? but then.. I suppose not.

http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx

and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..


http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F




Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting with
your silly nonsense.

the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.

So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.



I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.


You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like,

because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience do
YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?

More than you thanks. And we know how DIGITAL systems work too, unlike you.

but read this and understand why what you think you see is impossible
with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/




http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F

 

[felix]

On 18-January-2016 9:16 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:2ssn9bhd4h0ca9m46o3ba0ogu768bg7lef@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:21:15 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 17/01/2016 11:02 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 11:35 AM, Je?us wrote:

Yep, time to ignore the wanker as far I'm concerned.

good idea. all the ppl like you who have nothing better to do than
find
fault with me can piss off. I'm still here to talk to anyone who wants
to have a sensible discussion.


You wouldn't know sensible discussion if it was rammed up your arse

You'll note that since he posted the above (and says it's a good idea
that I'm ignoring him), he has since replied to me at least a dozen
times.

a few times at most maybe

Because you keep pointing and laughing at his terminal stupiditys
and keep claiming that he is a troll and implying he is lying.

exactly! (except for the terminal stupidity part)

Nah, he's no troll, is he?

Not in the classic sense of deliberately misrepresenting
what he believe JUST to produce a shit fight.

not at all in fact..

"Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may
characterize a post as trolling,
while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to
the discussion,
even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an ad
hominem attack,
suggesting a negative motivation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[felix]

On 18-January-2016 9:17 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dg2cn2Ft395U1@mid.individual.net...
On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix
me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two
different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are
visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them,
I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable
quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well
known among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which
I'm
at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing
these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated?

no answer I see

I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a
bearing on
performance.
You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital
signals
differs

am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
please..

and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices
and
connections.

so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI
cable and
then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's
not so.
you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for
example, I
suppose? but then.. I suppose not.

http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx

and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..


http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F





Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they
don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting
with
your silly nonsense.

the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.

So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.



I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.


You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of
high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore
Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to
ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is
sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an
indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound
tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like,

because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience
do YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?

More than you thanks.

to use one of your oft used expressions.. 'pigs arse!'

And we know how DIGITAL systems work too, unlike you.

but read this and understand why what you think you see is
impossible with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/




http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[~misfit~]

Once upon a time on usenet felix wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
On 15-January-2016 3:25 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 14/01/2016 9:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I
prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs
have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no
problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG
disc. I don't know that many ppl realize that different brands
of discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video.
Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like
saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory
stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the
differences between the two.



No you can't because it's digital.




so I have an over active imagination? I'm not trying to explain it,
I'm just saying how it is. surely discs from different manufactures
are not made exactly the same, so that could explain it. or maybe
it's a function of the electronics processing the signal from the
discs reacting to something inherently different between them?

No, the reason that you can't see the difference is that the
information encoded to the disc is digital which means it's either 0
or 1. That means a 1:1 copy can only have the same information. The
only way you might see a difference is if there are errors and you
can check this verifying or comparing two discs.

If your player isn't reading a particular disc the same, there might
be read errors and the bit rate might be dropped but they don't
manifest in a way you describe by changing how an image looks in the
way you describe over the length of a movie.

What you would see is pixelation and skipping.

You are applying an old analog idea to a digital medium and that just
doesn't work.

the DVD player
is connected to a home theatre amp that upscales the signal to
1080p. whatever the reason there is a visible difference


I suppose you can see a difference when using two different brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much sense.


well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality

LOL!!!

That sounds like one of any number of sales pitches to people with more
money than sense.

$500 / metre directional speaker cable anyone? It sounds amazing!! You can
only tell the difference on really high end gear though - if you can't hear
it then you need to upgrade <everything else>......

[crossposting removed]
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

 

[~misfit~]

Once upon a time on usenet felix wrote:

On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:
On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:
On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can
only assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same length
should produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which I'm at
the point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing
these past three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just
*too* ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is

Probably. But they're both nowhere near as stupid as you.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

 

[~misfit~]

Once upon a time on usenet felix wrote:

On 17-January-2016 1:28 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:45:10 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com
wrote:

On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:
On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix
me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.
well you are completely wrong there because there are
visible differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see
them, I can only assume you do not have equipment of
sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable
quality materials and are not faulty in some way and of the
same length should
produce the same result.
no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
among audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect
quality affects audio/video quality
LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated). Only reason you'd do that is because you're
trolling, which I'm at the point of being convinced is exactly
what you've been doing these past three weeks or so. Your
opinions on everything are just *too* ridiculous to be for
real.
Agreed.
you must be as stupid as he is


You're trolling
oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated? I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a bearing on
performance.

You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital
signals differs and you are applying analog signal principles to
digital devices and connections.

Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they
don't manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are
suggesting with your silly nonsense.
So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.
He's trolling. No longer any doubt about it as far I am concerned.



"Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may
characterize a post as trolling,
while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to
the discussion,
even if controversial. Like any pejorative term, it can be used as an
ad hominem attack,
suggesting a negative motivation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Perjorative? Ad hominem?

I recall you calling two people 'stupid' a couple of posts ago. It's up
there, in the quoted stuff.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

 

[Clocky]

On 18/01/2016 4:42 AM, felix wrote:

On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which I'm
at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated?

no answer I see

I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a bearing on
performance.
You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital signals
differs

am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
please..

and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices and
connections.

so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI
cable and
then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's not so.
you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for example, I
suppose? but then.. I suppose not.

http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx

and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..


http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F





Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting with
your silly nonsense.

the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.

So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.



I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.


You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like,

because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience do
YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?

More then you obviously when you can't even grasp the basics of digital
signals.

but read this and understand why what you think you see is impossible
with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/




http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F

You still don't get it. There are different cables supporting different
data rates and features. What that means is that either the cable will
work, or it won't. You're not going to see any difference in image
quality between cables (with the possible exception of sparkling but
that's not what you are describing).

 

[Clocky]

On 16/01/2016 12:39 PM, Je�us wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:18:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:guaj9bpa8cldr02cjmbkv7eid6quanf8df@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_ plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

Sure, but do you think he'd do a convincing job of it?
He can't even make a rational post.

He wouldn't have to alter the photo, he could simply adjust some
settings on his TV or monitor before taking the photo.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message
news:569c214b$0$1594$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com...

On 16/01/2016 12:39 PM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:18:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:guaj9bpa8cldr02cjmbkv7eid6quanf8df@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so
you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince
us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

Sure, but do you think he'd do a convincing job of it?
He can't even make a rational post.


He wouldn't have to alter the photo, he could simply adjust some settings
on his TV or monitor before taking the photo.

And even someone as stupid as him should be able to manage that.

 

[felix]

On 18-January-2016 10:18 AM, Clocky wrote:

On 16/01/2016 12:39 PM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:18:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:guaj9bpa8cldr02cjmbkv7eid6quanf8df@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen
so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between
the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can
convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video
capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever
you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

Sure, but do you think he'd do a convincing job of it?
He can't even make a rational post.


He wouldn't have to alter the photo, he could simply adjust some
settings on his TV or monitor before taking the photo.

of course. so what's the point of even doing it if no none is going to
trust me?

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[felix]

On 18-January-2016 10:14 AM, Clocky wrote:

On 18/01/2016 4:42 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix
me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two
different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are
visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them,
I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable
quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which
I'm
at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing
these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated?

no answer I see

I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a
bearing on
performance.
You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital
signals
differs

am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
please..

and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices
and
connections.

so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI
cable and
then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's
not so.
you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for
example, I
suppose? but then.. I suppose not.

http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx

and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..


http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F






Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they
don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting
with
your silly nonsense.

the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.

So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.



I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.


You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of
high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore
Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to
ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is
sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an
indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound
tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like,

because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience do
YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?


More then you obviously when you can't even grasp the basics of
digital signals.

you're avoiding the question. what testing have YOU personally done of
AV input/output cables? part of my working career was with a
manufacturer of hi end audio. why do you think at trade shows they DON'T
use cheap cables if it makes no difference?

but read this and understand why what you think you see is impossible
with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/




http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F





You still don't get it. There are different cables supporting
different data rates and features. What that means is that either the
cable will work, or it won't. You're not going to see any difference
in image quality between cables (with the possible exception of
sparkling but that's not what you are describing).

no. why do you think HDMI cables are rated according to spec? care to
explain how a 1.2 cable can handle 10.2 Gbps 1080p or 4k resolution and
16bit colour depth when it can't?

I suspect you have no practical knowledge of the matter and are only
talking theory. but no point in arguing endlessly. you will not convince
me, or anyone else with any experience with interconnects, that I/we do
not see and hear what we do see and hear, or don't, depending on the
cable used.

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[Trevor]

On 18/01/2016 2:28 PM, felix wrote:

On 18-January-2016 1:58 PM, Trevor wrote:
however there *ARE* certainly differences between cables of ALL types,
including HDMI. The main difference is mechanical construction
affecting reliability. That usually means the cable either works or
doesn't. Plenty of cheap ones fail, and plenty of really expensive
ones are *massive* rip offs. (of course many dealers sell cheap ones
at high prices too) Also there ARE different HDMI versions that not
all HDMI cables manage. ie. some cheap cables do not allow for ARC or
3D. And many cheap cables do of course. So to claim they are all the
same is simply wrong.

and so now you agree with me. what an idiot!

Since that is completely different to what you said, you are even more
moronic if you think I agree with you.

Trevor.

 

[Clocky]

On 18/01/2016 9:10 AM, felix wrote:

On 18-January-2016 10:14 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 18/01/2016 4:42 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix
me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two
different
brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much
sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are
visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them,
I can
only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable
quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same
length
should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known
among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality
affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which
I'm
at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing
these
past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.


Agreed.

you must be as stupid as he is



You're trolling

oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and then
reinstated?

no answer I see

I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a
bearing on
performance.
You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a digital
signals
differs

am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals? quote
please..

and you are applying analog signal principles to digital devices
and
connections.

so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 HDMI
cable and
then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. it's
not so.
you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for
example, I
suppose? but then.. I suppose not.

http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx

and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and specs..


http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F






Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but they
don't
manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are suggesting
with
your silly nonsense.

the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio performance?
that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.

So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.



I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.


You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of
high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore
Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to
ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is
sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an
indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound
tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like,

because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what experience do
YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?


More then you obviously when you can't even grasp the basics of
digital signals.

you're avoiding the question. what testing have YOU personally done of
AV input/output cables? part of my working career was with a
manufacturer of hi end audio.

Which make your claims even more ludicrous.

why do you think at trade shows they DON'T

use cheap cables if it makes no difference?

Gross profit is why. Selling overpriced cables to numpties like you is
big business.

but read this and understand why what you think you see is impossible
with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/




http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F





You still don't get it. There are different cables supporting
different data rates and features. What that means is that either the
cable will work, or it won't. You're not going to see any difference
in image quality between cables (with the possible exception of
sparkling but that's not what you are describing).



no. why do you think HDMI cables are rated according to spec? care to
explain how a 1.2 cable can handle 10.2 Gbps 1080p or 4k resolution and
16bit colour depth when it can't?

What does that have to do with the image you see and the claims you make
as to being able to see a difference?

You haven't posted anything that supports your theory that there is any
difference between cheap and expensive cables of the same specification
in terms of what you see on the screen.

I suspect you have no practical knowledge of the matter and are only
talking theory. but no point in arguing endlessly. you will not convince
me, or anyone else with any experience with interconnects, that I/we do
not see and hear what we do see and hear, or don't, depending on the
cable used.

It's all in the befuddled mess you call your mind.

 

[Trevor]

On 18/01/2016 2:49 PM, felix wrote:

and.. your comments re construction re reliability are irrelevant in
situations where cables are not being constantly removed and reconnected
btw ie. fixed installations

Even if that were so, it negates nothing I said.

Trevor.

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dg34fqF41d8U1@mid.individual.net...

On 18-January-2016 1:58 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 17/01/2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore Laboratory,
as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to
ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound tracks
and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like, but read this and understand why
what you think you see is impossible with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/


Yes he is a moron,

same to you asshole

however there *ARE* certainly differences between cables of ALL types,
including HDMI. The main difference is mechanical construction affecting
reliability. That usually means the cable either works or doesn't. Plenty
of cheap ones fail, and plenty of really expensive ones are *massive* rip
offs. (of course many dealers sell cheap ones at high prices too) Also
there ARE different HDMI versions that not all HDMI cables manage. ie.
some cheap cables do not allow for ARC or 3D. And many cheap cables do of
course. So to claim they are all the same is simply wrong.

and so now you agree with me.

Like hell he does on your stupid pig ignorant claim
that the particularly DIGITAL cable can affect stuff
like the saturation of the colors with a DVD.

> what an idiot!

You sig is sposed to have a line with just -- on it in front of it, fuckwit
child.

 

[Clocky]

On 18/01/2016 10:58 AM, Trevor wrote:

On 17/01/2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster just love,
they'd go broke without people like you.

Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading manufacturer of high
end cables that connect audio/video components for home, car and
professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance sound
characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power of the
audio signals. The video cables give improved picture quality to
television and home theatre systems.

(and I can confirm that is so)

Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee, who was
then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore Laboratory, as
well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that wires of
different constructions produced varying degrees of audio performance
when hooked up to loudspeakers.

(exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished for it)

From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He named it
Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since exploded. The
creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of high
performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.

Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded strong and
powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" compared to ordinary
loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is sometimes
misused to mean any high performance cable.

Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an indispensable
accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios, sound
professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
enthusiasts.

More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit on the
jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound tracks and
Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx

but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!



You can believe whatever scam you like, but read this and understand why
what you think you see is impossible with HDMI.

http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/


Yes he is a moron, however there *ARE* certainly differences between
cables of ALL types, including HDMI. The main difference is mechanical
construction affecting reliability. That usually means the cable either
works or doesn't. Plenty of cheap ones fail, and plenty of really
expensive ones are *massive* rip offs.

Plenty of real expensive ones fail before a cheap one will.

Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxfLXH6qe9w

 

[Clocky]

On 18/01/2016 8:18 AM, felix wrote:

On 18-January-2016 10:18 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 16/01/2016 12:39 PM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:18:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
news:guaj9bpa8cldr02cjmbkv7eid6quanf8df@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen
so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between
the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can
convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video
capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever
you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

Sure, but do you think he'd do a convincing job of it?
He can't even make a rational post.


He wouldn't have to alter the photo, he could simply adjust some
settings on his TV or monitor before taking the photo.

of course. so what's the point of even doing it if no none is going to
trust me?

So you can see that there is indeed no difference in saturation and you
get to realise that you have most embarrassingly made a spectacular
goose out of yourself in a public forum.

 

[felix]

On 18-January-2016 3:46 PM, Trevor wrote:

On 18/01/2016 2:49 PM, felix wrote:
and.. your comments re construction re reliability are irrelevant in
situations where cables are not being constantly removed and reconnected
btw ie. fixed installations

Even if that were so

it is so

it negates nothing I said.

Trevor.

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