Dual port Ram - for beginners

[dwerdna]

Hi all

Not having thought it was necessary to use a dual port ram until now I
was after a bit of advice.. I'm getting a few warnings on ModelSim,
and though I dont think I'm doing anything critically wrong I would
like to know if it can be improved.

Im targetting a Spartan 2E, and instantiating ramb4_s8_s8

I have a sampler which updates a RAM addr every second. My RAM is 64
addresses deep, therefore storing the previous minutes results which
the CPU can retrieve and graph at its leisure. I actaully have 8
different sampler channels, so the RAM is being fully utilised

I have decided to use a DP RAM as I felt it was a good way for 2
completely different controllers to access the same information
independently, which would also reduce my coding lines to make a
simpler system.

Both clocks into the RAM are from the same source, so I am getting a
warning that there is no phase difference between the rising edges of
the clocks (apparently it needs 0.1ns). Is this something I need to
modify in some way??

It is also coming up with a warning that I should not be addressing the
same address with both ports (currently the ram_enable is hardwired
'1'), but due to only one side writing and the other side reading I am
comfortable with this. I will probably implement some arbitration here
so that I dont get a unknown value for the read if both sides are
accessing the same address. Again, do I need to worry about this at
all?? Xilinx does advertise it as 'true dual port ram'.. My read
sample might be unknown but that is the worst that could happen isnt
it??

Thanks for your time

Andrew

 

[dwerdna]

Hi Mike

I would suggest that im in the 'VHDL - for intermediates' catergory,
looking for bit of info on dual port ram.

Since I very well could still be in the beginners group, could you
explain what the templates are all about please?? I had already looked
over the posts which come up under your suggested search string,
previous to my original question, and most of those posts are talking
about instantiating primitives, which is what I am doing..

So the original questions in summary were along the lines of:

Is there any particular issue with having the same clock - with no
phase difference - going into both ports of the RAM??

What is the worst thing that will happen if I am referencing the same
address, but ONLY writing to one address at that time?? From the
Xilinx info I would suggest that I will just get an unknown value on my
read port..

Thanks for your time

Andrew

 

[dwerdna]

Thanks for your help Mike and Duane

 

[dwerdna]

Thanks Jonathan, thats a good suggestion.

I've solved my problem, so its all good, but I havent looked into why a
read from an address which is being written to will produce "X" when
you go by the principal that a register can be read the same time it is
written to. I guess the "X" is just descriptive to say that the value
might not be what you expect, and this would be a more likely case is
the clocks were at different frequencies.

Anyway just a point of interest, nothing more

Thanks again