Dry Springs in Central Texas Warn of Water Shortage Ahead...

[Fred Bloggs]

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-water-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water for landscaping.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-water-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water for landscaping.

No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,”

 

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-water-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water for landscaping.

Well, even the non-newcomers need water for something.

> No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

Yeah; the dry sands of the Sahara wash the statue of Ozymandias...

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,”

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No
one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar
plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a
bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

 

[Don Y]

On 8/20/2023 3:57 PM, whit3rd wrote:

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No
one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar
plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a
bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

It doesn\'t take long for (sane) folks to realize that water isn\'t
something you \"take for granted\" in the West -- as you likely do in
much of the rest of the country (Utah perhaps being an exception
though they are quickly discovering the cost of their folly!)

Texas is in denial about a lot of things but I think they all
realize that water *is* a problem.

OTOH, they seem to still be stuck on the idea of \"lawns\". Most
such \"lawns\", here, are artificial grass, crushed granite or
\"natural\". Only a fool plants and maintains \"grass\". Or roses.

I took out the lawn a year after moving here. Granted, we opted
to use lots of water for our citrus \"crop\" (not typical, here).
But, even with that, we planned on having to remove some of the
trees as the water situation worsened. The larger rootstock
varieties will eventually be felled and the dwarf varieties
take their place (smaller crop, less transpiration)

Like most things (in the US), its hard to outright *forbid*
certain behaviors (e.g., \"No, you can\'t plant fruit trees\",
\"No, you can\'t have a swimming pool\", etc.). But, you can try to
discourage those behaviors by making them more expensive than
other practices (e.g., making water cost disproportionately more
as usage increases). \"Money talks\"

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 1:48:27 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-water-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water for landscaping.
No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,”

This is central Texas in and around Austin. The people there are not squatters or homesteaders. They\'re going to have to spend billions on a desalination plant and some ultra long pipeline system, they\'re 200 miles from the Gulf. Maybe the petroleum/ NG industry there will build it for them since they created the need for it.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
<whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
<e20585b6-bc8f-4640-81c7-8776ad0f9869n@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-wate=
r-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water f=
or landscaping.

Well, even the non-newcomers need water for something.

No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

Yeah; the dry sands of the Sahara wash the statue of Ozymandias...

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,”

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No
one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar
plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a
bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

Climate will change...
Mass migration will happen.
Millions will die

In the documentary I watched yesterday for example, most of UK and Europe were once covered with glaciers.
You may say \'we are gonna live there anyways\', but then finding a better place is easier.
Human population will decrease significantly.
Indeed technology can help us survive some of the climate changes.
But - as with that Roman empire - that civilization and all their technology will be lost
so nobody knows how to desalinate sea water or make nuclear power plants to make energy etc
We are - just like ants - part of the nature. Will we make it to other solar systems / planets
to preserve this species???
Who knows.

But we, as species, WILL have to move eventually or go extinct.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 05:00:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
e20585b6-bc8f-4640-81c7-8776ad0f9869n@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-wate=
r-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water f=
or landscaping.

Well, even the non-newcomers need water for something.

No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

Yeah; the dry sands of the Sahara wash the statue of Ozymandias...

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,â€?

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No
one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar
plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a
bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

Climate will change...

Always has.

>Mass migration will happen.

Ditto. Slow diffusion adapts to economics and climate and wars.

>Millions will die

World population will continue to increase and probably peak below
1e10. Birth rates are declining in most places..

In the documentary I watched yesterday for example, most of UK and Europe were once covered with glaciers.
You may say \'we are gonna live there anyways\', but then finding a better place is easier.
Human population will decrease significantly.

Probably not. Some horrible virus, or a big nucler war, could reduce
the population.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Aug 2023 03:08:57 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<c8d6eiho71u6l820ii3f4d30mnduc6sdq1@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 05:00:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
e20585b6-bc8f-4640-81c7-8776ad0f9869n@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-wate=
r-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water f=
or landscaping.

Well, even the non-newcomers need water for something.

No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

Yeah; the dry sands of the Sahara wash the statue of Ozymandias...

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,â€?

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No
one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar
plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a
bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

Climate will change...

Always has.

Mass migration will happen.

Ditto. Slow diffusion adapts to economics and climate and wars.

Millions will die

World population will continue to increase and probably peak below
1e10. Birth rates are declining in most places..

I was talking long time
As climate changes, large parts of the world will become inhabitable
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-world-the-last-ice-age/

Those places once covered with ice seem to be places where now many people live.
So those will likely move,
Sea level was 125 meters lower, so other places had less water...
Without water you cannot live there.
Maybe on the edges of the ice sheets, melt some ice to get water.
And the continental shelves are still moving.
Ultimately the sun will burn out, first expand and engulf the earth, then go out completely.
So we are doomed as species if we do not leave, find some other solar system before that.

Population needs food, food needs places where it can grow, water, plants, animals.

In the documentary I watched yesterday for example, most of UK and Europe were once covered with glaciers.
You may say \'we are gonna live there anyways\', but then finding a better place is easier.
Human population will decrease significantly.

Probably not. Some horrible virus, or a big nucler war, could reduce
the population.

Yes nuclear war, likely 2024 I think, but OTOH in Chernobyl wildlife is flourishing
also because there are no people there to hunt and kill it.
Covid did not eradicate us either, neither did the pest in medieval times etc..

There are many theories about how the Dinosaurs got extinct, asteroid impact, food shortages, volcanic eruptions, decreased oxygen levels,
https://www.dinosaur-universe.com/dinosaur-information/how-did-dinosaur-die/

Birth rates declining.. could be too many other fun things to do than sex
or just bad food.. too many preservatives...
https://www.kent.co.in/blog/the-harmful-effects-of-preservatives-on-your-health/amp/
or an ever older population...

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 8:46:39 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Aug 2023 03:08:57 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in <c8d6eiho71u6l820i...@4ax..com>:
On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 05:00:35 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:57:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in <e20585b6-bc8f-4640...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:48:27 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:

Another crisis unfolding in this totally brainlessly run place.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15082023/central-texas-dry-wells-water-shortage/

Lots of newcomers in denial about living in a dry scrubland need water for landscaping.

Well, even the non-newcomers need water for something.

No hysteria is required. Things adjust.

Yeah; the dry sands of the Sahara wash the statue of Ozymandias...

“She’s got to go find somewhere else to live,�€?

Then the rest of the denizens of \'central texas\' will follow? No one likes your plan. The legions of Rome had a similar plan: vae victis.

Water is a need, like air, food, shelter... if you can\'t work up a bit of emotion over losing that, you\'re dead. Hysteria is better than dead.

Hysterical reactions are rarely constructive, and may not be life-preserving.

Climate will change...

Always has.

But noticing that it is changing faster than it used to can be a good idea.

Mass migration will happen.

Ditto. Slow diffusion adapts to economics and climate and wars.

Millions will die

World population will continue to increase and probably peak below 1e10. Birth rates are declining in most places.

Female education is coming along nicely. Afghanistan is an exception.

> I was talking long time.

You don\'t say much, but tend to be tedious anyway.

As climate changes, large parts of the world will become inhabitable

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-world-the-last-ice-age/

The next ice is likely to be more than 50,000 years away, and we may not let it happen.

Those places once covered with ice seem to be places where now many people live.
So those will likely move,
Sea level was 125 meters lower, so other places had less water...

Don\'t be silly. The sea surface temperature is lower in an ice age, so there\'s less rain, but not much less.

> Without water you cannot live there.

You can always live on the coast - rivers run to the sea through coastal areas.

> Maybe on the edges of the ice sheets, melt some ice to get water.

Ice sheets are melting all the time - the ice get replaced by inland snow falls.

> And the continental shelves are still moving.

The continents themselves are still moving. Eventually they will move to an arrangement which doesn\'t allow ice ages to happen.

https://iceage.museum.state.il.us/content/why-do-ice-ages-happen

Ultimately the sun will burn out, first expand and engulf the earth, then go out completely.
So we are doomed as species if we do not leave, find some other solar system before that.

The sun is going to take some 5 billion year to become a red giant. Vertebrate species last about ten million years, so we are unlikjley to last long enough for this to matter to us.

Population needs food, food needs places where it can grow, water, plants, animals.

In the documentary I watched yesterday for example, most of UK and Europe were once covered with glaciers.
You may say \'we are gonna live there anyways\', but then finding a better place is easier.
Human population will decrease significantly.

Probably not. Some horrible virus, or a big nuclear war, could reduce the population.

Yes nuclear war, likely 2024 I think, but OTOH in Chernobyl wildlife is flourishing also because there are no people there to hunt and kill it.

\"Flourishing\" is a trifle too positive. There are a lot of mutations.

> Covid did not eradicate us either, neither did the plague in medieval times etc..

Plagues differ in their modes of action. None of our ancestors met one that killed off all of them. Other species may not have been so lucky.

There are many theories about how the Dinosaurs got extinct, asteroid impact, food shortages, volcanic eruptions, decreased oxygen levels,
https://www.dinosaur-universe.com/dinosaur-information/how-did-dinosaur-die/

Birth rates declining.. could be too many other fun things to do than sex
or just bad food.. too many preservatives...
https://www.kent.co.in/blog/the-harmful-effects-of-preservatives-on-your-health/amp/
or an ever older population...

In Australia those women who do have kids are having kids later than they used to. Reliable contraception is a sufficient explanation.

Those kids who do get born have parents who did want kids, and will probably share the genes for that. It should sort itself out.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney