Dr William Haseltine MSNBC Interview

He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame. None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent. Of course, he goes into the current crisis of mismanagement from every conceivable angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpkPGhTnLU

 

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:df73f938-cc08-40d7-8b34-7f63ae29ac6f@googlegroups.com:

He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence (
think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing
research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with
very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way
back in 2004 the time frame. None of the administrations between
then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty
much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when
it was clear to people who know about such things that global
pandemic is inevitable and imminent. Of course, he goes into the
current crisis of mismanagement from every conceivable angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpkPGhTnLU

Or maybe the stupid bastards are dumb enough to think it is a form
of 'population control'.

Does anyone remember the Ursula K. Le Guin book "The Lathe of
Heaven"?

Or perhaps the BBC 1980 film adaptation.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VRbaVNvSA>

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 06:18:13 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame. None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent. Of course, he goes into the current crisis of mismanagement from every conceivable angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHpkPGhTnLU

Did any other countries research those drugs? Why did *we* leave the
world wide open?





--

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The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
> He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

He'd have made a mint if somebody could have been persuaded to fund one of his companies to work on the problem, and no doubt he is nostalgic about the money he could have made if they had, but there are always a lot more ways to spend research money than there is money to be spent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Haseltine

> None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

> Of course, he goes into the current crisis of mismanagement from every conceivable angle.

There nothing like hindsight for telling you what you should have done.

The fact that USA has China and South Korea as two examples of two different ways to tackle the epidemic that work, and hasn't bother to implement either of them, is a sounder basis for criticism.

Haseltine wouldn't have made money out of either of them, so he wouldn't be interested.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality. The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

 

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links. Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

> The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links.

You have to look them up to read them.

Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Run a google search on <topic keywords> : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Colon restricts search to site specified.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic.. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links.

You have to look them up to read them.

> Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links.

You have to look them up to read them.

Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.


Run a google search on <topic keywords> : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Colon restricts search to site specified.

That's a rather extensive website. I do visit it from time to time. but you'd need to post a rather longer search string to get down to an individual paper, as you really ought to know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

is what a specific paper reference looks like.

Somehow I suspect that you've got rather fewer working neurones than the 86 billion that Suzana Herculano-Houzel has worked out that most of us have.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links.

You have to look them up to read them.

Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.


Run a google search on <topic keywords> : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Colon restricts search to site specified.

That's a rather extensive website. I do visit it from time to time. but you'd need to post a rather longer search string to get down to an individual paper, as you really ought to know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

is what a specific paper reference looks like.

Somehow I suspect that you've got rather fewer working neurones than the 86 billion that Suzana Herculano-Houzel has worked out that most of us have..

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:23:48 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links.

You have to look them up to read them.

Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.


Run a google search on <topic keywords> : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Colon restricts search to site specified.

That's a rather extensive website. I do visit it from time to time. but you'd need to post a rather longer search string to get down to an individual paper, as you really ought to know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

is what a specific paper reference looks like.

Somehow I suspect that you've got rather fewer working neurones than the 86 billion that Suzana Herculano-Houzel has worked out that most of us have.

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what you think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:23:48 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre....@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs..fre...@gmail.com wrote:
He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for controlling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus generation with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

The public health scientists watch for this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

None of the administrations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved is not a corona virus.

I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links..

You have to look them up to read them.

Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote that.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your more confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.


Run a google search on <topic keywords> : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Colon restricts search to site specified.

That's a rather extensive website. I do visit it from time to time. but you'd need to post a rather longer search string to get down to an individual paper, as you really ought to know.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2776484/

is what a specific paper reference looks like.

Somehow I suspect that you've got rather fewer working neurones than the 86 billion that Suzana Herculano-Houzel has worked out that most of us have.

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what you think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

My feelings exactly.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 1:54:13 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:23:48 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what you think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

My feelings exactly.

If those were exactly your feelings, you would post links to the obscure published material that your arguments rely on.

You don't, which tells us that you don't know what "exactly" means.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:24:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 1:54:13 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:23:48 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what you think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

My feelings exactly.

If those were exactly your feelings, you would post links to the obscure published material that your arguments rely on.

You don't, which tells us that you don't know what "exactly" means.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

This took all of 3 seconds to find. Not the NLM but a redirecion. Not going to read it, it wasn't the original one I read but looks the same:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971214014970

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 10:51:40 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:24:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 1:54:13 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 7:35:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:23:48 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 1:31:47 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:28:03 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 11:58:44 PM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 1:49:07 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC+11, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what you think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

My feelings exactly.

If those were exactly your feelings, you would post links to the obscure published material that your arguments rely on.

You don't, which tells us that you don't know what "exactly" means.

This took all of 3 seconds to find. Not the NLM but a redirecion. Not going to read it, it wasn't the original one I read but looks the same:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971214014970

It doesn't claim that the next epidemic is going to be a from a corona virus, which was the fatuous idea that you were trying to peddle.

"As no one knows what, when, and where the next novel zoonoses will emerge, we must be prepared for the unexpected."

This disagreement between what you thought you saw, and what was actually there to see, is why it's nice to see exactly where you thought you got your deluded misapprehensions.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney