does a scope need ac mains ground?

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1jam

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I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?


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1jam wrote:

I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?


Most likely not however, I would careful about using your scope on
hot chassis.

Jamie
 
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:24:08 -0900, 1jam <com@example.net> wrote:

I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?
It's certainly not safe but it's not going to affect the performance.
 
on 29/02/2012, 1jam supposed :
I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?
And how come you have 3 prong sockets with no ground connection?

Sureley thats against any jurisdictions code in this day and age. :-?

--
John G
 
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:09:03 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

on 29/02/2012, 1jam supposed :
I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?

And how come you have 3 prong sockets with no ground connection?

Sureley thats against any jurisdictions code in this day and age. :-?
There are exceptions (grandfathered structures with a GFCI) but they should be
marked as ungrounded.
 
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz expressed precisely :
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:09:03 +1100, John G <greentest@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

on 29/02/2012, 1jam supposed :
I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I
have my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?

And how come you have 3 prong sockets with no ground connection?

Sureley thats against any jurisdictions code in this day and age. :-?

There are exceptions (grandfathered structures with a GFCI) but they should
be marked as ungrounded.
Yes living in a country where 230 volts is the go and Grounded outlets
have been the norm fo about 30 years and more in some areas, I forgot
about the GFCI situation but as you say they should be labeled.
A ground (green ) wire must go to every light fitting whether the
fitting is metal or not as it might be changed at a later date. This
was a recent (20 years maybe) addition to the rules.

--
John G
 
It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd). If you want to
test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is referenced to mains Gnd -
good by probe!!!

"1jam" <com@example.net> wrote in message
news:4f4d5408$1@news.acsalaska.net...
I just found out, much to my surprise, that none of the outlets where I
have
my oscilliscope are grounded. Would this affect performance?


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Praise God from whom all blessings flow
 
"David Jerk"

It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd).
** No way - that is very dangerous for the operator.


If you want to test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is
referenced to mains Gnd - good by probe!!!
** Absolute bullshit.



.... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"David Jerk"


It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd).


** No way - that is very dangerous for the operator.



If you want to test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is
referenced to mains Gnd - good by probe!!!


** Absolute bullshit.



... Phil


look out! Two down unders going at it!


Jamie
 
"Jamie the Radio Ham TROLL "
look out! Two down unders going at it!
** Err - what make you so sure " David J " is an Aussie?




.... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote on 1/03/2012 :
"Jamie the Radio Ham TROLL "

look out! Two down unders going at it!


** Err - what make you so sure " David J " is an Aussie?




... Phil
Yes who said he was from the better part of the world?
He sounds like a Yank candidate for a Darwin award to me.

--
John G
 
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:58:00 +1100, John G wrote:

Yes who said he was from the better part of the world? He sounds like a
Yank candidate for a Darwin award to me.
"Better?" Isn't Australia where they sent all the criminals that they
didn't wind up hanging? Where they have foot-wide spiders that want to
kill you? And where God put together things from spare parts left over,
and wound up with the platypus?? I mean, they named a whole *town* after
Darwin...

Sure, we Yanks have our problems, but we're not doing so badly for a
primitive country. There is every hope that we might have civilization
here eventually.

--
If God had wanted us to be concerned for the plight of the toads, he would
have made them cute and furry.
-- Dave Barry
 
Chiron formulated on Thursday :
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:58:00 +1100, John G wrote:

Yes who said he was from the better part of the world? He sounds like a
Yank candidate for a Darwin award to me.

"Better?" Isn't Australia where they sent all the criminals that they
didn't wind up hanging? Where they have foot-wide spiders that want to
kill you? And where God put together things from spare parts left over,
and wound up with the platypus?? I mean, they named a whole *town* after
Darwin...

Sure, we Yanks have our problems, but we're not doing so badly for a
primitive country. There is every hope that we might have civilization
here eventually.
We only had to take convicts after you lot could not handle the job.
lol then we advanced quickly.
No death penalty, Metric measure like the better part of the world, a
debt to GDP ratio far and away better than most.

--
John G
 
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:44:33 +1100, John G wrote:

We only had to take convicts after you lot could not handle the job. lol
then we advanced quickly.
No death penalty, Metric measure like the better part of the world, a
debt to GDP ratio far and away better than most.
All true. Still, I refer you to this authoritative article:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-trying-okay,27444/

Anyway, Australia is one of the very few places I wouldn't mind living.
All those other places have too many foreigners.

--
Truth has no special time of its own. Its hour is now -- always.
-- Albert Schweitzer
 
After serious thinking Chiron wrote :
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:44:33 +1100, John G wrote:

We only had to take convicts after you lot could not handle the job. lol
then we advanced quickly.
No death penalty, Metric measure like the better part of the world, a
debt to GDP ratio far and away better than most.

All true. Still, I refer you to this authoritative article:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-trying-okay,27444/

Anyway, Australia is one of the very few places I wouldn't mind living.
All those other places have too many foreigners.
Come on down sometime and enjoy.

--
John G
 
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:18:05 -0500, David J wrote:

It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd). If you want to
test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is referenced to mains Gnd -
good by probe!!!
That is extremely dangerous advice.

Especially when expressed in a public forum.

--
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
(Richard Feynman)
 
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:53:59 -0800, Fred Abse <excretatauris@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:18:05 -0500, David J wrote:

It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd). If you want to
test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is referenced to mains Gnd -
good by probe!!!

That is extremely dangerous advice.

Especially when expressed in a public forum.
....with the name "basics".
 
On Mar 1, 12:53 pm, Fred Abse <excretatau...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:18:05 -0500, David J wrote:
It is generally beter to float the scope (no AC mains Gnd).  If you want to
test mains voltage with your scope if the probe is referenced to mains Gnd -
good by probe!!!

That is extremely dangerous advice.

Especially when expressed in a public forum.

--
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
                                       (Richard Feynman)
Save the probe and fry the user!

Agreed very dangerous advice! Testing AC line stuff is when you want
to make sure the 'scope is grounded. I was talking with someone who
hooked his 'scope ground onto the wrong side of the AC line... blew
the 'scope input and the circuit breaker... but the ~$50 scope probe
is still working.

George H.
 

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