Disk array power supply pinout/wiring...

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Hello:

Sorry for crossposting this, but I\'ve had no answers from the more specific groups.

I\'m in the process repurposing a power supply from a scrapped Sun Microsystems StorEdge D2 array which was working perfectly well when decomissioned.

It is a Japanese made 360W FDK PEX737-40, +5V/30A and +12V/23A.
Impressively well built hardware and in mint condition.

The final objective is to have a PS with solid +12 and +5 outputs which may eventually power USB charging ports and other assorted stuff needing quality power.

The plug at the back of the slide-in box/canister has 24 pins just like the typical male Molex 39-01-2240 connector for ATX MBs but with a different pinout and keying(?) and without all the usual ATX voltages, which makes sense as it is not a for a motherboard.

Of the 24 pins, 19 have 18AWG and 5 have 24AWG cables.

With the unit plugged in and the rear switch \'on\', I get these readings:

18AWG-red -> 0.00V to GND
24AWG-red -> 3.0mV to GND
18AWG-orange -> 0.00V to GND
18AWG-yellow -> 0.00V to GND
24AWG-green -> 0.00V to GND
24AWG-grey -> 0.00V to GND
24AWG-blue -> + 5.08V to GND <- PS_ON
24AWG-brown -> + 3.0mV to GND

This would make the blue cable PS_ON but the unit will not latch_on when I short it to GND and although there\'s no continuity between the green cable and GND, the unit does latch_on when I short blue+green.

The five +5V cables are on the same rail as they show 0.1 ohms between them, same for the three +12V cables.

The remaining red cable shows 10.2 ohms to the other +5V cables.

The yellow +12V cable shows 3.80k ohms with respect to the other +12V cables and is probably destined to one of the two redundant fans the array had.

With the unit plugged in, the rear switch \'on\' and green+blue shorted, the unit latches_on and I get these readings:

18AWG-red -> + 5.11V to GND
24AWG-red -> + 5.10V to GND
18AWG-orange -> +12.29V to GND
18AWG-yellow -> +12.01V to GND
24AWG-green -> + 5.07V to GND <- GND(?)
24AWG-grey -> + 5.06V to GND <- PWR_OK
24AWG-blue -> + 5.10V to GND <- PS_ON
24AWG-brown -> + 5.10V to GND

So my guess is that the blue cable is PS_ON, the grey cable is PWR_OK and the green cable GND (?).

What I would need to know is this:

The 24AWG-red cable has no voltage when the unit is not latched_on, so it does not seem to be +5VSB: what is it for?

What would be the proper use of the brown cable?
Is it a sense cable like every other ATX PS?

Do I need to put in a dummy load (10 ohm/5w sandbar resistor) to insure stability?

I\'d be grateful for any input on this.

Thanks in advance.

JHM

 

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 06/06/2020 13:49, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

Hello:

Sorry for crossposting this, but I\'ve had no answers from the more specific groups.

I\'m in the process repurposing a power supply from a scrapped Sun Microsystems StorEdge D2 array which was working perfectly well when decomissioned.

It is a Japanese made 360W FDK PEX737-40, +5V/30A and +12V/23A.
Impressively well built hardware and in mint condition.

Found blue+green mentioned in the last post here as power on.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/server-psu-pex-737-30-how-to-turn-it-on/

24AWG-red on a 10ohm resistor (trace it?) connected to the main 5v rail,
I\'d guess would be a power_good indication. The Sun array might be in a
redundant dual PSU configuration, and this could be just a monitoring wire.

Likewise with the brown.

I wouldn\'t get too hung up with checking deviations from the ATX
standard which possibly isn\'t valid here anyway. However, I would as an
exercise check with a meter or a scope, voltage stability at low current
draws.

I\'d think seriously about adding properly fuses in the output, when
attaching anything to it - or being especially careful with it. I have
personally experienced burning cables (and skin!) on things less potent.

--
Adrian C

 

[Adrian Caspersz]

On 06/06/2020 13:49, sawbona@gmx.net wrote:

Hello:

Sorry for crossposting this, but I\'ve had no answers from the more specific groups.

I\'m in the process repurposing a power supply from a scrapped Sun Microsystems StorEdge D2 array which was working perfectly well when decomissioned.

It is a Japanese made 360W FDK PEX737-40, +5V/30A and +12V/23A.
Impressively well built hardware and in mint condition.

Found blue+green mentioned in the last post here as power on.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/server-psu-pex-737-30-how-to-turn-it-on/

24AWG-red on a 10ohm resistor (trace it?) connected to the main 5v rail,
I\'d guess would be a power_good indication. The Sun array might be in a
redundant dual PSU configuration, and this could be just a monitoring wire.

Likewise with the brown.

I wouldn\'t get too hung up with checking deviations from the ATX
standard which possibly isn\'t valid here anyway. However, I would as an
exercise check with a meter or a scope, voltage stability at low current
draws.

I\'d think seriously about adding properly fuses in the output, when
attaching anything to it - or being especially careful with it. I have
personally experienced burning cables (and skin!) on things less potent.

--
Adrian C

 

[Julius Henry Marx]

Hello:

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 9:49:51 AM UTC-3, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

> Found blue+green mentioned in the last post here as power on.
That was me. 8^)
I was attempting to reach the poster who knew the solution was blue+green, hoping he\'d know about the brown and red cables.

24AWG-red on a 10ohm resistor (trace it?)
No, haven\'t traced it but it is on the same rail as there\'s continuity.

> I\'d guess would be a power_good indication.
Wouldn\'t that be the grey 18AWG wire?
The front panel on the array had an amber/green status LED.
Green for \'no error condition\' and amber for drive/fan/PS or temperature error.

... a redundant dual PSU configuration ...
Yes, it is very well designed: redundant PSU and Fan canisters.

> ... could be just a monitoring wire.
That is what I\'ve been thinking, especially being 24AWG.
But if it is a voltage monitoring function like the 3.3V sense wires in the ATX design maybe(?) would be necessary for stablility.

... too hung up with checking deviations ...
OK.

> ... check with a meter or a scope, voltage stability at low current draws.
Yes, I have to set up a test rig once I get everything mounted.
But no scope, just a mid-quality RMS meter.

... adding properly fuses in the output ...
Of course.

I still have draw up how I\'ll divide this all.
Probably two separate +12V posts, two separate +5V posts and two stacked USB charging plugs, everything properly fused.

I still have to decide if I\'ll be using 5x20mm panel fuses/holders or maybe spend a bit more and wire in polyfuses, particularly on the USBs.

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer.

Best,

JHM

 

[Julius Henry Marx]

Hello:

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 9:49:51 AM UTC-3, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

> Found blue+green mentioned in the last post here as power on.
That was me. 8^)
I was attempting to reach the poster who knew the solution was blue+green, hoping he\'d know about the brown and red cables.

24AWG-red on a 10ohm resistor (trace it?)
No, haven\'t traced it but it is on the same rail as there\'s continuity.

> I\'d guess would be a power_good indication.
Wouldn\'t that be the grey 18AWG wire?
The front panel on the array had an amber/green status LED.
Green for \'no error condition\' and amber for drive/fan/PS or temperature error.

... a redundant dual PSU configuration ...
Yes, it is very well designed: redundant PSU and Fan canisters.

> ... could be just a monitoring wire.
That is what I\'ve been thinking, especially being 24AWG.
But if it is a voltage monitoring function like the 3.3V sense wires in the ATX design maybe(?) would be necessary for stablility.

... too hung up with checking deviations ...
OK.

> ... check with a meter or a scope, voltage stability at low current draws.
Yes, I have to set up a test rig once I get everything mounted.
But no scope, just a mid-quality RMS meter.

... adding properly fuses in the output ...
Of course.

I still have draw up how I\'ll divide this all.
Probably two separate +12V posts, two separate +5V posts and two stacked USB charging plugs, everything properly fused.

I still have to decide if I\'ll be using 5x20mm panel fuses/holders or maybe spend a bit more and wire in polyfuses, particularly on the USBs.

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer.

Best,

JHM