Dims prospects dropping faster than a ROCK!...

[Flyguy]

Evidence:
Senile pervert Lyin\' Biden\'s crappy approval numbers have dropped by 4% in ONE MONTH! Voters call him out of touch (was he every IN TOUCH?). The majority of voters say the economy is their Number One issue (\"It\'s all about the economy, STUPID!). 72% say the country is on the WRONG TRACK. 75% of voters think that we ARE NOW in a recession.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-midterm-elections/index.html

The NH senate race of Hassen vs Bolduc has made a TEN POINT swing in just ONE MONTH in favor of GOP Bolduc!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/nh/new-hampshire-senate-bolduc-vs-hassan-7379.html

 

[bitrex]

On 11/4/2022 4:11 PM, Flyguy wrote:

Evidence:
Senile pervert Lyin\' Biden\'s crappy approval numbers have dropped by 4% in ONE MONTH! Voters call him out of touch (was he every IN TOUCH?). The majority of voters say the economy is their Number One issue (\"It\'s all about the economy, STUPID!). 72% say the country is on the WRONG TRACK. 75% of voters think that we ARE NOW in a recession.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-midterm-elections/index.html

The NH senate race of Hassen vs Bolduc has made a TEN POINT swing in just ONE MONTH in favor of GOP Bolduc!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/nh/new-hampshire-senate-bolduc-vs-hassan-7379.html

Family-friendly values are winning!

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[Fred Bloggs]

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:12:01 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

Evidence:
Senile pervert Lyin\' Biden\'s crappy approval numbers have dropped by 4% in ONE MONTH! Voters call him out of touch (was he every IN TOUCH?). The majority of voters say the economy is their Number One issue (\"It\'s all about the economy, STUPID!). 72% say the country is on the WRONG TRACK. 75% of voters think that we ARE NOW in a recession.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-midterm-elections/index.html

The NH senate race of Hassen vs Bolduc has made a TEN POINT swing in just ONE MONTH in favor of GOP Bolduc!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/nh/new-hampshire-senate-bolduc-vs-hassan-7379.html

Polls are about the people being polled and not the subject matter of the polling, You should know that by now. Politicians have to pay attention to the polls because they need the votes, but beyond that, nobody in their right mind would give two cents for what the general public thinks about ANYTHING.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 8:32:40 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:12:01 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Evidence:
Senile pervert Lyin\' Biden\'s crappy approval numbers have dropped by 4% in ONE MONTH! Voters call him out of touch (was he every IN TOUCH?). The majority of voters say the economy is their Number One issue (\"It\'s all about the economy, STUPID!). 72% say the country is on the WRONG TRACK. 75% of voters think that we ARE NOW in a recession.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics/cnn-poll-democrats-midterm-elections/index.html

The NH senate race of Hassen vs Bolduc has made a TEN POINT swing in just ONE MONTH in favor of GOP Bolduc!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/nh/new-hampshire-senate-bolduc-vs-hassan-7379.html
Polls are about the people being polled and not the subject matter of the polling, You should know that by now. Politicians have to pay attention to the polls because they need the votes, but beyond that, nobody in their right mind would give two cents for what the general public thinks about ANYTHING.

Well, then there are MILLIONS of people NOT in their right mind! Polls are used in virtually every aspect of campaigning, from fundraising, to driving out the vote, to media election analysis. That said, polls are notoriously inaccurate and should be taken with a healthy grain of salt. Nonetheless, the shift to the Republicans, especially among independents, in the last month is very dramatic. And we will shortly see how accurate, or inaccurate, they are.

 

[Ricky]

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:40:32 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.
Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.
??? The 2 per cent are independent, who are just Democrats in sheep\'s clothing. Presently, with Wisconsin running out of votes, the Senate is down to three races, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Georgia has 2% of the votes uncounted, with a 1% Democratic lead, requiring a 3:1 Republican lean in these remaining votes to change the result. Arizona has 34% uncounted with a 5% Democratic lead, so strong, but not impossible to change. Nevada, with 23% uncounted, shows a Republican lead of 2.7%. Given the tendency for late ballot counts to be Democratic mail in votes, this is presently too close to call.

If you count votes (meaning the Independents plus Democrats) it is looking like another 50-50 split with a chance of retaining Nevada, which with the flip of Pennsylvania would give the Democrats a natural 51-49 lead without a vote by the VP, nullifying the ability of Manchin to throw monkey wrenches.

The house race looks like it\'s going Republican, the question is by how much?
Yes, that might give Nancy an exit ramp. Violence against her husband is regrettable, but she\'s been in the house far too long.

Whatever. I no longer think there is any good to come out of either party in power. The problem with power is, it\'s like drugs. You get some and it makes you want more. You never have enough to be able to ignore the corrupting influences and have to make pacts with the devil... unless you are the devil everyone else is making pacts with.

There are only a handful of things I\'d like to see happen in government. I want to see universal healthcare for everyone. Not Medicare, no insurance.. Just a system like nearly every other advanced country has, where when you need medical care, you get it, with no drama. That should be the slogan, Medical Care Without Drama!

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Flyguy]

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 4:21:45 AM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

--
Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

Ron DeSantis has become the odds-on favorite for the 2024 nomination, senile pervert Lyin\' Biden has been neutered, Crazy Nancy is out of a job, the GOP controls the House and may regain control of the Senate. So, WHAT is not to like Bozo?

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 11:33:36 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

> The mRNA vaccines were the only ones that really came through. The others, like the J&J/Janssen ( Scandinavians lie about everything so their flop is to be expected) and AstraZeneca , vector vaccines, were all flops by comparison.

The Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine worked fine. It had different parts per million side effects from the mRNA vaccines, but generated exactly the same antigens in the human body as the mRNA vaccines. Fred doesn\'t like it because it fed less money into American share-holders pockets.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 7:44:17 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 11:33:36 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
snip
The mRNA vaccines were the only ones that really came through. The others, like the J&J/Janssen ( Scandinavians lie about everything so their flop is to be expected) and AstraZeneca , vector vaccines, were all flops by comparison.
The Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine worked fine. It had different parts per million side effects from the mRNA vaccines, but generated exactly the same antigens in the human body as the mRNA vaccines. Fred doesn\'t like it because it fed less money into American share-holders pockets.

If you call over-burdening an already broken health care system with an additional 250 million per billion caseload, in the absence of the mRNA vaccines, working \"just fine\" then nothing more needs to be said... it\'s apples and oranges, vector vaccine technology is the wrong choice.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Martin Brown]

On 10/11/2022 12:44, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 11:33:36 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs
wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:

snip

The mRNA vaccines were the only ones that really came through. The
others, like the J&J/Janssen ( Scandinavians lie about everything
so their flop is to be expected) and AstraZeneca , vector vaccines,
were all flops by comparison.

The Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine worked fine. It had different parts
per million side effects from the mRNA vaccines, but generated
exactly the same antigens in the human body as the mRNA vaccines.

It was slightly different in two fundamental ways:

1. mRNA was less inclined to cause blood clots in the young.
2. mRNA gave 95% protection from catching original Covid vs 66-75% for
AZ/J&J (depending on whose numbers you believe)

Both vaccine technologies cut the risk of fatal illness by more than an
order of magnitude. Unclear how good the Russian or Chinese ones are.

Pfizer had first mover advantage, whilst AZ had the advantage of easier
manufacture and much less stringent cold chain requirements. Moderna was
in the middle ground. Several others were minor bit players.

Moderna is now suing Pfizer for patent infringement - we will have to
see how far that goes. If there is any merit in their case.

Fred doesn\'t like it because it fed less money into American
share-holders pockets.

AZ was initially done at cost during the main pandemic.
Something that they took a lot of flack for.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[bitrex]

On 11/9/2022 9:18 PM, Ricky wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:40:32 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.
Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.
??? The 2 per cent are independent, who are just Democrats in sheep\'s clothing. Presently, with Wisconsin running out of votes, the Senate is down to three races, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Georgia has 2% of the votes uncounted, with a 1% Democratic lead, requiring a 3:1 Republican lean in these remaining votes to change the result. Arizona has 34% uncounted with a 5% Democratic lead, so strong, but not impossible to change. Nevada, with 23% uncounted, shows a Republican lead of 2.7%. Given the tendency for late ballot counts to be Democratic mail in votes, this is presently too close to call.

If you count votes (meaning the Independents plus Democrats) it is looking like another 50-50 split with a chance of retaining Nevada, which with the flip of Pennsylvania would give the Democrats a natural 51-49 lead without a vote by the VP, nullifying the ability of Manchin to throw monkey wrenches.

The house race looks like it\'s going Republican, the question is by how much?
Yes, that might give Nancy an exit ramp. Violence against her husband is regrettable, but she\'s been in the house far too long.

Whatever. I no longer think there is any good to come out of either party in power. The problem with power is, it\'s like drugs. You get some and it makes you want more. You never have enough to be able to ignore the corrupting influences and have to make pacts with the devil... unless you are the devil everyone else is making pacts with.

There are only a handful of things I\'d like to see happen in government. I want to see universal healthcare for everyone. Not Medicare, no insurance. Just a system like nearly every other advanced country has, where when you need medical care, you get it, with no drama. That should be the slogan, Medical Care Without Drama!

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:51:08 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:

On 10/11/2022 12:44, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 11:33:36 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs
wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:

snip

The mRNA vaccines were the only ones that really came through. The
others, like the J&J/Janssen ( Scandinavians lie about everything
so their flop is to be expected) and AstraZeneca , vector vaccines,
were all flops by comparison.

The Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine worked fine. It had different parts
per million side effects from the mRNA vaccines, but generated
exactly the same antigens in the human body as the mRNA vaccines.
It was slightly different in two fundamental ways:

1. mRNA was less inclined to cause blood clots in the young.
2. mRNA gave 95% protection from catching original Covid vs 66-75% for
AZ/J&J (depending on whose numbers you believe)

Both vaccine technologies cut the risk of fatal illness by more than an
order of magnitude. Unclear how good the Russian or Chinese ones are.

Pfizer had first mover advantage, whilst AZ had the advantage of easier
manufacture and much less stringent cold chain requirements. Moderna was
in the middle ground. Several others were minor bit players.

Moderna is now suing Pfizer for patent infringement - we will have to
see how far that goes. If there is any merit in their case.
Fred doesn\'t like it because it fed less money into American
share-holders pockets.
AZ was initially done at cost during the main pandemic.
Something that they took a lot of flack for.

Cost savings in supply chain maintenance and all the other advantages touted are dwarfed into oblivion by the additional health care burden due to their 25 point failing in efficacy. It\'s a cheap buy-in but an expensive lifecycle cost. Another important advantage of mRNA is it can be indefinitely boosted, and new mRNA in response to emerging variants of concern can be produced rapidly.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Ricky]

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 1:31:15 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 11/9/2022 9:18 PM, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:40:32 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.
Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.
??? The 2 per cent are independent, who are just Democrats in sheep\'s clothing. Presently, with Wisconsin running out of votes, the Senate is down to three races, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Georgia has 2% of the votes uncounted, with a 1% Democratic lead, requiring a 3:1 Republican lean in these remaining votes to change the result. Arizona has 34% uncounted with a 5% Democratic lead, so strong, but not impossible to change. Nevada, with 23% uncounted, shows a Republican lead of 2.7%. Given the tendency for late ballot counts to be Democratic mail in votes, this is presently too close to call.

If you count votes (meaning the Independents plus Democrats) it is looking like another 50-50 split with a chance of retaining Nevada, which with the flip of Pennsylvania would give the Democrats a natural 51-49 lead without a vote by the VP, nullifying the ability of Manchin to throw monkey wrenches.

The house race looks like it\'s going Republican, the question is by how much?
Yes, that might give Nancy an exit ramp. Violence against her husband is regrettable, but she\'s been in the house far too long.

Whatever. I no longer think there is any good to come out of either party in power. The problem with power is, it\'s like drugs. You get some and it makes you want more. You never have enough to be able to ignore the corrupting influences and have to make pacts with the devil... unless you are the devil everyone else is making pacts with.

There are only a handful of things I\'d like to see happen in government.. I want to see universal healthcare for everyone. Not Medicare, no insurance. Just a system like nearly every other advanced country has, where when you need medical care, you get it, with no drama. That should be the slogan, Medical Care Without Drama!

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Martin Brown]

On 10/11/2022 17:59, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:51:08 AM UTC-5, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 10/11/2022 12:44, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 11:33:36 PM UTC+11, Fred
Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, Flyguy
wrote:

snip

The mRNA vaccines were the only ones that really came through.
The others, like the J&J/Janssen ( Scandinavians lie about
everything so their flop is to be expected) and AstraZeneca ,
vector vaccines, were all flops by comparison.

The Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine worked fine. It had different
parts per million side effects from the mRNA vaccines, but
generated exactly the same antigens in the human body as the mRNA
vaccines.
It was slightly different in two fundamental ways:

1. mRNA was less inclined to cause blood clots in the young. 2.
mRNA gave 95% protection from catching original Covid vs 66-75%
for AZ/J&J (depending on whose numbers you believe)

Both vaccine technologies cut the risk of fatal illness by more
than an order of magnitude. Unclear how good the Russian or Chinese
ones are.

Pfizer had first mover advantage, whilst AZ had the advantage of
easier manufacture and much less stringent cold chain requirements.
Moderna was in the middle ground. Several others were minor bit
players.

Moderna is now suing Pfizer for patent infringement - we will have
to see how far that goes. If there is any merit in their case.
Fred doesn\'t like it because it fed less money into American
share-holders pockets.
AZ was initially done at cost during the main pandemic. Something
that they took a lot of flack for.

Cost savings in supply chain maintenance and all the other advantages
touted are dwarfed into oblivion by the additional health care burden
due to their 25 point failing in efficacy. It\'s a cheap buy-in but an

But it was only a failure in terms of preventing *transmission* 3x vs
20x. I said at the time given a choice I wanted Pfizer since their
statistics were both clearer and more favourable. I got AZ,AZ,Pf & Pf2.

All the Western vaccines were *very* effective preventing
hospitalisation and death. In some ways the UK benefited from a
heterogeneous mixture of mainly AZ with some Pfizer and Moderna for the
younger age groups.

Within about 9 months of vaccine deployment Covid had evolved to vastly
more infective vaccine escape strains and now none of the old vaccines
offer much protection against catching Covid. Only the new bivalent ones
stand a chance against Omicron but uptake in the UK is rather limited.

Israel that opted for a monoculture of Pfizer fared surprisingly badly
(in part due to their ultra-orthodox refuseniks with a death wish).
Perfect breeding ground for a vaccine escape strain.

expensive lifecycle cost. Another important advantage of mRNA is it
can be indefinitely boosted, and new mRNA in response to emerging
variants of concern can be produced rapidly.

Going forward I expect that the mRNA technology will win out -
particularly the Moderna variant which has a more stable emulsion.

However, the disease has now passed the point of becoming endemic and UK
has a steady baseline of 1M people infected each week with a cyclic peak
that seems to be decreasing in amplitude every 4 months. It has been
like this since the start of the year when Omicron became dominant.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=nation&areaName=England

I expect the peak height will fall but that 1M people a week will have
Covid infections here for the foreseeable future (until perhaps one
summer when it might drop way back like it did in the very first year).

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:

On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.

Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.

 

[Ricky]

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.
Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.

??? The 2 per cent are independent, who are just Democrats in sheep\'s clothing. Presently, with Wisconsin running out of votes, the Senate is down to three races, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Georgia has 2% of the votes uncounted, with a 1% Democratic lead, requiring a 3:1 Republican lean in these remaining votes to change the result. Arizona has 34% uncounted with a 5% Democratic lead, so strong, but not impossible to change. Nevada, with 23% uncounted, shows a Republican lead of 2.7%. Given the tendency for late ballot counts to be Democratic mail in votes, this is presently too close to call.

If you count votes (meaning the Independents plus Democrats) it is looking like another 50-50 split with a chance of retaining Nevada, which with the flip of Pennsylvania would give the Democrats a natural 51-49 lead without a vote by the VP, nullifying the ability of Manchin to throw monkey wrenches.

The house race looks like it\'s going Republican, the question is by how much?

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Ed Lee]

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-8, Ricky wrote:

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 12:15:20 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 8:13:10 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/9/2022 7:21 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:12:01 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

snip

Wise of Gnatguy to get his jubilation in before the actual event. The hoped for red-wave turns out to have been more of a red ripple.

The US \"left wing media\" (that is to say, almost entirely owned and
operated by wing nut super-rich, CNN included, and now Twitter as well)
was pushing the \"red wave\" narrative so hard, and the \"inflation is
killing the working class\" narrative so hard.
Putin and Musk are disappointed, but 49-49-2 in Senate would be enough to stop rubber stamping congress.
??? The 2 per cent are independent, who are just Democrats in sheep\'s clothing. Presently, with Wisconsin running out of votes, the Senate is down to three races, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia. Georgia has 2% of the votes uncounted, with a 1% Democratic lead, requiring a 3:1 Republican lean in these remaining votes to change the result. Arizona has 34% uncounted with a 5% Democratic lead, so strong, but not impossible to change. Nevada, with 23% uncounted, shows a Republican lead of 2.7%. Given the tendency for late ballot counts to be Democratic mail in votes, this is presently too close to call.

If you count votes (meaning the Independents plus Democrats) it is looking like another 50-50 split with a chance of retaining Nevada, which with the flip of Pennsylvania would give the Democrats a natural 51-49 lead without a vote by the VP, nullifying the ability of Manchin to throw monkey wrenches.

The house race looks like it\'s going Republican, the question is by how much?

Yes, that might give Nancy an exit ramp. Violence against her husband is regrettable, but she\'s been in the house far too long.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:54:54 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:48:08 PM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:40:35 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:05:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:01:08 PM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:
snip
Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.

I don\'t think there is anything like free health care in any developed country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for a sane society.

Nothing is more expensive than something advertised as \"free.\"

Doesn\'t apply to US health care which is roughly half again more expensive per head than that offered in other advanced industrial countries, while delivering a roughly five years poorer expectation of life.

Care to explain what kind of miracle health care system is responsible for life expectancy?
The health care system is only responsible for making sick people live a little longer, and counselling people in how not to get sick by avoiding unhealthy life styles.

Life expectancy is a measure of the health of the population. Unless the place is a complete wreck, lots of people untreated, it has little to do with health care delivery. Can you find where it says otherwise here:

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports-data/health-conditions-disability-deaths/life-expectancy-deaths/overview

So unless you can show the U.S. is full of people with diagnosed but untreated illness, your evaluation of their health care system is baseless.

If the people don\'t last too well, the health system isn\'t working as well as it should.

Doesn\'t follow.

All you\'re talking about, but too dumb to realize, is the inhabitants of these other places adhere to less unhealthy lifestyles. Medicine cannot reverse a lifetime of self-destructive unhealthy behavior.
But they can discourage that self-destructive unhealthy behaviour, ideally when the patients are young enough that they haven\'t got far into self-destruction.

People in that age group aren\'t receptive to that kind of message. They think they\'re immortal.

The US health system s remarkably ineffective at that, as you can see fro the number Americans who are oveweight.

That probably has more to do with the convenience, ready availability, and low cost of fattening diets, in addition to a 24/7 marketing blitz pushing that kind of food. It has nothing to do with health care delivery.

With the exception of possibly Germany, U.S. has the best health care system in the world.
https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/

puts Germany at 27th, and the US at 46th. Australia is at number eight. Do test us the basis of your criterion.
As John Robertson says, nobody advertises universal health care as free. It\'s paid for with a tax - in my case a 2% levy on my income - but you don\'t getdenied care because you can\'t afford it.

No one is denied health care in U.S.
Very few places will treat you if you haven\'t health insurance. and the quality of the care you get can be dubious.

The law entitles everyone to emergency care. The poor have Medicaid for standard care. Doctors tend to lose enthusiasm for treating patients who remain obviously non-compliant to their advice, or sell their prescription meds on the black market. Other than that there is no reason whatsoever the poor can\'t get the exact same treatment as the privately insured.

Naomi Klein has talked about having had a car accident in New Orleans when covering Hurricane Katrina and having got brilliant treatment in an empty private hospital,when the less well-off locals were getting inadequate health care in emergency accommodation.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/50896/411348-Hospitals-in-Hurricane-Katrina.PDF

That airhead doesn\'t know what she\'s talking about- she\'s totally oblivious to reality. New Orleans was a disaster area so of course you can expect the medical facilities to be improvised. How would she know if anyone\'s care was inadequate. In that particular situation housing patients in field tents with collapsible cots for beds is plenty adequate.

And what other than a trauma injury put people in the hospital after the hurricane? Maybe they cut their knee on the glass they broke during a looting or something.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-5, Ed Lee wrote:

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:54:54 AM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
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On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:05:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:01:08 PM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:
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Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.

I don\'t think there is anything like free health care in any developed country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for a sane society.

Nothing is more expensive than something advertised as \"free.\"

Doesn\'t apply to US health care which is roughly half again more expensive per head than that offered in other advanced industrial countries, while delivering a roughly five years poorer expectation of life.

Care to explain what kind of miracle health care system is responsible for life expectancy?
The health care system is only responsible for making sick people live a little longer, and counselling people in how not to get sick by avoiding unhealthy life styles.

If the people don\'t last too well, the health system isn\'t working as well as it should.
All you\'re talking about, but too dumb to realize, is the inhabitants of these other places adhere to less unhealthy lifestyles. Medicine cannot reverse a lifetime of self-destructive unhealthy behavior.
But they can discourage that self-destructive unhealthy behaviour, ideally when the patients are young enough that they haven\'t got far into self-destruction.

The US health system s remarkably ineffective at that, as you can see fro the number Americans who are oveweight.
With the exception of possibly Germany, U.S. has the best health care system in the world.
https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/

puts Germany at 27th, and the US at 46th. Australia is at number eight. Do test us the basis of your criterion.
As John Robertson says, nobody advertises universal health care as free. It\'s paid for with a tax - in my case a 2% levy on my income - but you don\'t getdenied care because you can\'t afford it.

No one is denied health care in U.S.
Very few places will treat you if you haven\'t health insurance. and the quality of the care you get can be dubious.
Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

Regarding free higher education, it should be debated, passed and funded by congress, not just executive order.

That\'s not how this country works. The authority to act is delegated by Congressional legislation all the time. You can\'t have the executive branch running to Congress for a central government like approval of every little thing they do. That is what sets governments like the U.S. apart from horrific hellholes like Russia, another bunch of great believers in centralized control. The Biden administration believed the HEROES Act gave them that authority, and actually it did. The poorly educated and mentally unstable redneck judge in Texas is the one who will get vacated. He\'s a district judge, handles trials, one level below the appeals system. The Biden administration has already filed an appeal which can be decided preliminarily without waiting months or years for the process of a hearing.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10818

As usual it\'s just a bunch of conflab about nothing to get a bunch of people who don\'t know anything all riled up.

Free stuffs are nice, but how are we going to pay for them.

Who gives a damn... they\'ll obviously worry about that later.