Dell - A720/A920 black ink cartridge.

[Ian Field]

Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming up
the works?

Thanks.

 

[Mick Nowell]

Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do this
three times. Anymore = fail.

 

[Ian Field]

"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the printer so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had some weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.

 

[N_Cook]

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.

what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

 

[Ian Field]

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.


what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

Water with a dash of Stardrops detergent.

The ink is water based - any hydrocarbon solvent would curdle the ink like
putting vinegar in milk!

 

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks
gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do
this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the
printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now
works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.


what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

Water with a dash of Stardrops detergent.

The ink is water based - any hydrocarbon solvent would curdle the ink like
putting vinegar in milk!

isn't detergent a hydrocarbon?
So I take it that de-ionised water as the fluid rather than methylated
spirit or paraffin is the correct medium.

 

[Ian Field]

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on
a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks
gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the
cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do
this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the
printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by
sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now
works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.


what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

Water with a dash of Stardrops detergent.

The ink is water based - any hydrocarbon solvent would curdle the ink
like
putting vinegar in milk!


isn't detergent a hydrocarbon?
So I take it that de-ionised water as the fluid rather than methylated
spirit or paraffin is the correct medium.

I saw a BP oil company branded bottle of washing up liquid once years ago.

Not sure if it has any relevance to this topic, years ago I saw in student
digs a physics student had written on the bathroom wall; "were it not for
the difference between carbohydrates and hydrocarbons - we'd dissolve
ourselves when we fart in the bath!".

The Stardrops detergent is distributed by: Star brands Limited Birmingham,
UK if you want to tap them for more info, if I didn't have any Stardrops I
would've used washing up liquid - most places that sell ultrasonic cleaners
offer some "special" detergent for use in them, but I rarely find myself
overwhelmed by excessive disposable income!

Acetone is water soluble, but even diluted may damage some types of plastic.

 

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine
on
a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank
pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks
gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the
cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do
this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the
printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson, once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by
sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now
works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had
some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.


what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

Water with a dash of Stardrops detergent.

The ink is water based - any hydrocarbon solvent would curdle the ink
like
putting vinegar in milk!


isn't detergent a hydrocarbon?
So I take it that de-ionised water as the fluid rather than methylated
spirit or paraffin is the correct medium.

I saw a BP oil company branded bottle of washing up liquid once years ago.

Not sure if it has any relevance to this topic, years ago I saw in student
digs a physics student had written on the bathroom wall; "were it not for
the difference between carbohydrates and hydrocarbons - we'd dissolve
ourselves when we fart in the bath!".

The Stardrops detergent is distributed by: Star brands Limited Birmingham,
UK if you want to tap them for more info, if I didn't have any Stardrops I
would've used washing up liquid - most places that sell ultrasonic
cleaners
offer some "special" detergent for use in them, but I rarely find myself
overwhelmed by excessive disposable income!

Acetone is water soluble, but even diluted may damage some types of
plastic.

Perhaps its the surfactant action that is required in ultrasonic baths,
rather than oil/grease dissolving function.

 

[Ian Field]

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"Mick Nowell" <nohelp@all.net> wrote in message
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Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine
on
a
Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank
pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks
gumming
up
the works?

Thanks.

Epson 2200 owner myself. I would try to run nozzle cleaning. If
you don't have pref's that perform this try re-inserting the
cartidge
and let the automation take care of priming. You might have to do
this
three times. Anymore = fail.

All the Epson printers I've seen, the print head was part of the
printer
so
it doesn't get replaced with the cartridge - now I avoid Epson,
once
they're
blocked - they're blocked!

The Dell cartridge nozzles just needed priming - I did that by
sucking.

The ink tasted *VERY NASTY* and I got a black tongue - but it now
works.

There were a couple of colour cartridges that felt like they had
some
weight
in them, I got one of those going again with a few minutes in an
ultrasonic
cleaner and leaving them to soak overnight.


what fluid did you use in the ultrasonic bath / soaking ?

Water with a dash of Stardrops detergent.

The ink is water based - any hydrocarbon solvent would curdle the ink
like
putting vinegar in milk!


isn't detergent a hydrocarbon?
So I take it that de-ionised water as the fluid rather than methylated
spirit or paraffin is the correct medium.

I saw a BP oil company branded bottle of washing up liquid once years
ago.

Not sure if it has any relevance to this topic, years ago I saw in
student
digs a physics student had written on the bathroom wall; "were it not for
the difference between carbohydrates and hydrocarbons - we'd dissolve
ourselves when we fart in the bath!".

The Stardrops detergent is distributed by: Star brands Limited
Birmingham,
UK if you want to tap them for more info, if I didn't have any Stardrops
I
would've used washing up liquid - most places that sell ultrasonic
cleaners
offer some "special" detergent for use in them, but I rarely find myself
overwhelmed by excessive disposable income!

Acetone is water soluble, but even diluted may damage some types of
plastic.


Perhaps its the surfactant action that is required in ultrasonic baths,
rather than oil/grease dissolving function.

Horses for courses - some usonic tanks were designed for solvents, but most
of the useful solvents have been banned because they damage the ozone layer.

Even electronics manufacturers solder with water soluble flux so it can be
cleaned in water.

Before the chlorinated solvents, they used alcohol - but that was stopped
because of its flamability.

 

[hrhofann@sbcglobal.net]

On May 22, 11:00 am, "Ian Field" <gangprobing.al...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

Since I had a syringe of black printer ink that worked just fine on a Canon
250i, I decided to try filling the cartridge on my Dell A920.

Its gone from streaky printing - to printing completely blank pages.

Is this a problem of priming the nozzles - or incompatible inks gumming up
the works?

Thanks.

I always soak the cartridges that have nozzles in a shallow container
of water overnight, water just deep enough to extend to the bottom of
the tank itself, putting the nozzles 1/8" +/- under water. Then I
fill them about 1/2 full, set them on end so that the nozzle end is up
for about 1/2 hour or so. Then put them upright in their normal
position for another hour to let the ink fully diffuse throughout the
sponge, and then start printing again. I recently refilled some HP
and some Lexmark cartiridges more than 10 times each as I was printing
some brochures for a non-profit organization. Cartridges still
printing perfectly.