De-gaussing?

[virtualgaz]

Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture lost
clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing completely.
After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never switched the thing
off by the mains, I think this was the problem. I've also heard compact
fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?). Anyhow, what do you guys think
about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix my prob (shadow mask?). If
so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Thanks heaps,
Gaz

 

[Phil Allison]

"virtualgaz"

Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture lost
clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing completely.
After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never switched the thing
off by the mains, I think this was the problem. I've also heard compact
fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?). Anyhow, what do you guys
think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix my prob (shadow
mask?).

** Nope - what you need is called a Magic Wand.

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights?

** Nah - just wave one about the TV while saying " Abra Cadabra !!!! "

How long for?

** Long as it takes - naturally .

Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

** Dead easy to make one - getting the thing fully operational is a tad
more complicated however.

Thanks heaps,
Gaz

** No problemo.

BTW

If the Magic Wand idea fails take the telly to a tech.

Most of them have got themselves a functioning wand - but the sods will
never loan it out.





............. Phil

 

[Russ]

virtualgaz wrote:

Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture
lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely. After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never
switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem.

I think most newish TVs have inbuilt degaussing coils. Perhaps cycling the
power a few times might fix the problem?

 

[Lord-Data]

Not familiar with the Jaycar wand, but I used to have one back when I
worked on arcade machines .. cost $99 back then .. weighed a fair bit, and
worked DAMN well .. it could affect the picture from about 4 meters away ..
keep your watch off when using one of those guys

I found starting in the center and circling slowly outwards and away worked
best, not turning off till you've slowly moved it out of range of effect.

Note that a lot of TVs have built in degauss rings, and often the leaving
mains power off for 10 mins or so, then restarting the unit will cause it to
fire the degauss ring .. often you can hear it go when it powers on.. Not
all TVs are created equal tho .. I've got an old akai that is definitly
fitted with said ring, but its function is pointless .. only managed to have
an effect on the outer 2 inches of the screen .. had to use the wand on that
one to get it working properly



"virtualgaz" <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Zl1Od.152589$K7.150147@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture lost
clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing completely.
After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never switched the thing
off by the mains, I think this was the problem. I've also heard compact
fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?). Anyhow, what do you guys
think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix my prob (shadow
mask?). If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Thanks heaps,
Gaz

 

[Rod Speed]

virtualgaz <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Zl1Od.152589$K7.150147@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob.

Doesnt look like it, actually.

The picture lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely.

A magnetism problem wont do that, see the green missing completely.

Something likely failed in the circuitry associated with the green gun.

After a week's rest, the green is coming back.

is coming makes it sound gradual. Is that what you meant to say ?

I never switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem.

Nope.

I've also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?).

Nope.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix
my prob (shadow mask?).

Nope.

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Its not completely trivial to do. And wont fix your problem anyway.

 

[virtualgaz]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:36t8veF55ga8mU1@individual.net...

virtualgaz <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Zl1Od.152589$K7.150147@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob.

Doesnt look like it, actually.

WRONG (it was corrected by a de-gaussing wand)

The picture lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went
missing completely.

A magnetism problem wont do that, see the green missing completely.

WRONG (yes it will if there's sufficient draw on the shadow mask (oh dear,
it's not going too well is it?))

Something likely failed in the circuitry associated with the green gun.

WRONG (it came back after full de-gaussing)

After a week's rest, the green is coming back.

is coming makes it sound gradual. Is that what you meant to say ?

WELL DONE, at least you can read cuz you're useless at electronic
troubleshooting

I never switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the
problem.

Nope.

WRONG (it was precisely the problem - have you considered another usenet
group?)

I've also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?).

Nope.

WRONG (they do and cause problems with RF and HT when in close proximity to
a unit)

Anyhow, what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it
fix my prob (shadow mask?).

Nope.

WRONG AGAIN (the wand I borrowed is the same as a Jaycar one and worked
superbly)

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Its not completely trivial to do. And wont fix your problem anyway.

WRONG (what did I expect?) Now listen up smart-arse, I tell you what I'll
do, I'll save you the oppurtunity of embarrassing yourself again in regard
to my posts... PLONK!

 

[virtualgaz]

Cheers LD,
Great info on the wand business. I managed to borrow one in the end and it's
sorted. It was a combo of never switching the thing off fully and the
atmospherics of late. The 2 compact fluoros right above it have played a
part I'm sure.
Ta
Gaz

"Lord-Data" <data@ihug.com.au> wrote in message
news:4208b169$0$27873$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...

Not familiar with the Jaycar wand, but I used to have one back when I
worked on arcade machines .. cost $99 back then .. weighed a fair bit, and
worked DAMN well .. it could affect the picture from about 4 meters away
.. keep your watch off when using one of those guys

I found starting in the center and circling slowly outwards and away
worked best, not turning off till you've slowly moved it out of range of
effect.

Note that a lot of TVs have built in degauss rings, and often the leaving
mains power off for 10 mins or so, then restarting the unit will cause it
to fire the degauss ring .. often you can hear it go when it powers on..
Not all TVs are created equal tho .. I've got an old akai that is
definitly fitted with said ring, but its function is pointless .. only
managed to have an effect on the outer 2 inches of the screen .. had to
use the wand on that one to get it working properly



"virtualgaz" <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Zl1Od.152589$K7.150147@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture
lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely. After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never
switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem. I've
also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?). Anyhow,
what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix my
prob (shadow mask?). If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights?
How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Thanks heaps,
Gaz

 

[virtualgaz]

Cheers Russ,
this worked up to a point by bringing the green back but the wand sorted it
in the end. It was a combo of having no power off time and the atmospherics
of summer.
ta
Gaz

"Russ" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:36rpgjF55ks1nU1@individual.net...

virtualgaz wrote:
Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture
lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely. After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never
switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem.

I think most newish TVs have inbuilt degaussing coils. Perhaps cycling the
power a few times might fix the problem?

 

[virtualgaz]

Hilarious stuff that.
My TV tech loaned me a wand no drama - you must be from one of those
southern states.

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:36rp2cF553o2iU1@individual.net...

"virtualgaz"

Hey guys,
Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob. The picture
lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely. After a week's rest, the green is coming back. I never
switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem. I've
also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?). Anyhow,
what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it fix my
prob (shadow mask?).


** Nope - what you need is called a Magic Wand.


If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights?


** Nah - just wave one about the TV while saying " Abra Cadabra !!!!
"


How long for?


** Long as it takes - naturally .


Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?


** Dead easy to make one - getting the thing fully operational is a
tad more complicated however.


Thanks heaps,
Gaz


** No problemo.

BTW

If the Magic Wand idea fails take the telly to a tech.

Most of them have got themselves a functioning wand - but the sods will
never loan it out.





............ Phil

 

[John Tserkezis]

virtualgaz wrote:

Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob.

Doesnt look like it, actually.

WRONG (it was corrected by a de-gaussing wand)

A degaussing wand will not fix a missing green.

The picture lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went
missing completely.

A magnetism problem wont do that, see the green missing completely.

WRONG (yes it will if there's sufficient draw on the shadow mask (oh dear,
it's not going too well is it?))

You specifically said the green was missing, a magnetised mask will not do this.

Something likely failed in the circuitry associated with the green gun.

WRONG (it came back after full de-gaussing)

That's very nice, but it doesn't mean the degaussing wand did it.

After a week's rest, the green is coming back.

is coming makes it sound gradual. Is that what you meant to say ?

WELL DONE, at least you can read cuz you're useless at electronic
troubleshooting

If YOU'RE so good, why did you ask the question in the first place?

I never switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the
problem.

Nope.

WRONG (it was precisely the problem - have you considered another usenet
group?)

Bzzzt. Leaving it plugged into the mains is irrelevant, it still powers up
and down normally according to whatever the video card.

Even if you have a monitor that doesn't power down, it's still irrelevant. A
green gun failure is caused by faults other than how you're powering it.

I've also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?).

Nope.

WRONG (they do and cause problems with RF and HT when in close proximity to
a unit)

RFI is not geomagnetism. Idiot.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it
fix my prob (shadow mask?).

Nope.

WRONG AGAIN (the wand I borrowed is the same as a Jaycar one and worked
superbly)

Then you just got lucky the green returned. It had nothing to do with
degaussing the mask.

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Its not completely trivial to do. And wont fix your problem anyway.

WRONG (what did I expect?) Now listen up smart-arse, I tell you what I'll
do, I'll save you the oppurtunity of embarrassing yourself again in regard
to my posts... PLONK!

Yes, and at the end of the day, he can still spell and you still can't.

So there.
--
Linux Registered User # 302622 <http://counter.li.org>

 

[Sam Jones]

virtualgaz <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
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Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
virtualgaz <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote

Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob.

Doesnt look like it, actually.

WRONG (it was corrected by a de-gaussing wand)

Then your original description must have been a lie.

The picture lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went missing
completely.

You cant get green missing completely over the entire
screen with the shadow mask getting magnetised
externally. It'll never get magnetised that uniformly.

A magnetism problem wont do that, see the green missing completely.

WRONG (yes it will if there's sufficient draw on the shadow mask

Not a clue.

(oh dear, it's not going too well is it?))

For you, yep.

Something likely failed in the circuitry associated with the green gun.

WRONG (it came back after full de-gaussing)

Then your original description must have been a lie.

After a week's rest, the green is coming back.

is coming makes it sound gradual. Is that what you meant to say ?

WELL DONE, at least you can read cuz you're useless at electronic
troubleshooting

You're completely useless at actually describing the original fault.

I never switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the problem.

Nope.

WRONG

RIGHT with the original fault description.

(it was precisely the problem

Then your original description must have been a lie.

- have you considered another usenet group?)

No need, anyone with a clue about TV knows that you cant
get your original description with a magnetised shadow mask.

I've also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?).

Nope.

WRONG

RIGHT.

(they do and cause problems with RF and HT when in close proximity to a unit)

Nothing like your original lie about the specific fault of green going missing
completely.

Anyhow, what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it
fix my prob (shadow mask?).

Nope.

WRONG AGAIN (the wand I borrowed is the same as a Jaycar one and worked
superbly)

Then your original description must have been a lie.

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Its not completely trivial to do. And wont fix your problem anyway.

WRONG (what did I expect?) Now listen up smart-arse, I tell you what I'll do,
I'll save you the oppurtunity of embarrassing yourself again in regard to my
posts... PLONK!

Fat lot of good that will ever do you, fuckwit liar.

 

[Matthew Gunn]

virtualgaz wrote:

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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virtualgaz <virtualgaz@DELETEbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Zl1Od.152589$K7.150147@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


Looks like my 3-yr old Sharp crt tv has a magnetism prob.

Doesnt look like it, actually.


WRONG (it was corrected by a de-gaussing wand)

The picture lost clarity over a few weeks and finally the green went
missing completely.

A magnetism problem wont do that, see the green missing completely.


WRONG (yes it will if there's sufficient draw on the shadow mask (oh dear,
it's not going too well is it?))

Something likely failed in the circuitry associated with the green gun.


WRONG (it came back after full de-gaussing)

After a week's rest, the green is coming back.

is coming makes it sound gradual. Is that what you meant to say ?


WELL DONE, at least you can read cuz you're useless at electronic
troubleshooting

I never switched the thing off by the mains, I think this was the
problem.

Nope.


WRONG (it was precisely the problem - have you considered another usenet
group?)

I've also heard compact fluoros can cause excessive geomagnetism(?).

Nope.


WRONG (they do and cause problems with RF and HT when in close proximity to
a unit)

Anyhow, what do you guys think about a Jay Car de-gaussing wand - will it
fix my prob (shadow mask?).

Nope.


WRONG AGAIN (the wand I borrowed is the same as a Jaycar one and worked
superbly)

If so, how do you use the beast - figure of eights? How long for?
Oh yeah, can I make my own wand - can't be much to 'em?

Its not completely trivial to do. And wont fix your problem anyway.


WRONG (what did I expect?) Now listen up smart-arse, I tell you what I'll
do, I'll save you the oppurtunity of embarrassing yourself again in regard
to my posts... PLONK!


lol