Dangerous PC Speakers

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Phil Allison

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Hi to all,

When I upgraded my PC recently a pair of small, self powered speakers
were included in the deal.

These were the Lepra brand model LS699.

After a while I noticed a burning smell coming from the area of the
monitor but it was not that - the speaker with the PSU and amp inside was
the culprit. On opening it I found the tiny PC mount transformer (no plug
pack is used) was running so hot it had blackened the insulation tape on the
primary winding and was much too hot to touch.

The tranny would be about 2 or 2.5 VA from its size ( core 28 x 25 x
12mm ) and powered a TDA2822M 8 pin dual amp IC - but only just. The
primary magnetising current measured 37mA and the resistance about 3500 ohms
when hot - that means almost 5 watts of heat loss in the primary alone - no
wonder it was so damn hot !!

The tranny has only *basic insulation* and no thermal fuse - the
plastic bobbin melts like butter if you apply a soldering iron. There is
only 0.7mm of plastic separating the windings.

There is strangely no double insulation symbol on the unit, but there
is an approval number ( N 10752) - for all that is worth.

I am concerned that some trannies will burn and fail with a breakdown
from primary to secondary and make the input plug live.


Any one else seen this problem or another similar one ??



.............. Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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These were the Lepra brand model LS699.

Make that Lexpro brand - damn spellchecker took over !


.......... Phil
 
That approval number is only in relation to its c-tick compliance, it may
burn your house down, but there won't be any interference on your tv in the
process.

JM

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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These were the Lepra brand model LS699.


Make that Lexpro brand - damn spellchecker took over !


......... Phil
 
"amstereo-matt2" <amstereo@optus n e t dot c o m dot a u> wrote in
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the only comlience symbol worth a piece of shit is UL which
states a product
will not become unsafe enough to catch alight
As do all the IEC based standards - in fact UL is now behind on
flammability assessment. This is evidenced by the US Board of Fire
Commissioners' formal letter in 2000 requesting the assessment of
flammability of products containing thermoplastics be improved.

Why do you think UL is so great? Frankly we find UL to be
equally as worthless as any of the other marks. None of them has
any legal standing in AU or NZ and material substitution is
rampant anyway. Just because a material has a yellow card entry
does not mean a product made from it will be safer than any other.
The correct selection and application are more important.

What Phil has found is something rather becoming more common - a
non-declared product, especially an IT or computer product, that
does not meet the product safety requirements of the various State
Electricity Acts. The acts require an electrical product to be
"safe" no matter whether it is a declared type or not. For a
real surprise, look inside many PC power supplies !!

Even many "approved" products are coming under scrutiny due to
non-conformance with standards. Often because the initial
"tested" design has been compromised by material or component
substitution.

Also, unfortunately Phil hit the nail right on the head - unless
someone actually dies then it is highly unlikley the NSW DFT would
take any action over a non-declared article.
 
"David" <maildrop@telstra.abuse.com>

Also, unfortunately Phil hit the nail right on the head - unless
someone actually dies then it is highly unlikley the NSW DFT would
take any action over a non-declared article.


** Hitting a nail on the head is not in the same league as driving
nails into someone's coffin.



............ Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"David" <maildrop@telstra.abuse.com

Also, unfortunately Phil hit the nail right on the head - unless
someone actually dies then it is highly unlikley the NSW DFT would
take any action over a non-declared article.



** Hitting a nail on the head is not in the same league as driving
nails into someone's coffin.
People die and they still dont give a shit. Ask QLD's GRAVES (or whtever
they are called) and they will tell you how to fix the problem. Then
everyone will complain because they cant get their product certified, just
like the QLD electrical laws.....blah blah blah..
 
"amstereo-matt2"

the only comlience symbol worth a piece of shit is UL which states a product
will not become unsafe enough to catch alight
Safety - UL Rating

Printed circuit board to have a flammability rating of 94V-0. Markings to
include UL tractability

requirements per UL Recognized Component Directory.



UL is a flamibility rating basiclly




***** What a load of absolutely pig ignorant crap!!!!

More unashamed public wanking about a subject he thinks he knows everything
about!!


Brian Goldsmith.
 
google is your friend. BITCH

--
i 1197am the new sound of Brisbane
(a proud listener)
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
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"amstereo-matt2"

the only comlience symbol worth a piece of shit is UL which states a
product
will not become unsafe enough to catch alight
Safety - UL Rating

Printed circuit board to have a flammability rating of 94V-0. Markings to
include UL tractability

requirements per UL Recognized Component Directory.



UL is a flamibility rating basiclly




***** What a load of absolutely pig ignorant crap!!!!

More unashamed public wanking about a subject he thinks he knows
everything
about!!


Brian Goldsmith.
 

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