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Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?
 
On May 7, 9:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?
ELI the ICEman cometh!
 
On Sat, 7 May 2011 09:29:49 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.shan@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 7, 7:57 pm, Abi Normal <abbie.knor...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 7, 9:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?

ELI the ICEman cometh!

Plz make me understand.....
Voltage across a capacitor cannot change instantaneously. Current has to
change first. Therefor, I (current), in a C(apacitor), comes before E
(voltage).

Current through an inductor cannot change instantaneously. Voltage has to
change first. Therefor E (voltage), in an L(inductance) changes before I
(current).

The old[*] ELI the ICE man.

[*] old == from the days when ice was delivered to the door.
 
On May 7, 7:57 pm, Abi Normal <abbie.knor...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 7, 9:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?

ELI the ICEman cometh!
Plz make me understand.....
 
On May 7, 12:05 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

[*] old == from the days when ice was delivered to the door.
Grocery and liquor stores may still have an Eli.
 
On May 7, 10:05 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
On Sat, 7 May 2011 09:29:49 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 7, 7:57 pm, Abi Normal <abbie.knor...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 7, 9:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?

ELI the ICEman cometh!

Plz make me understand.....

Voltage across a capacitor cannot change instantaneously.  Current has to
change first.  Therefor, I (current), in a C(apacitor), comes before E
(voltage).  

Current through an inductor cannot change instantaneously. Voltage has to
change first.  Therefor E (voltage), in an L(inductance) changes before I
(current).  

The old[*] ELI the ICE man.

[*] old == from the days when ice was delivered to the door.
Thank you for helping me out.
 
On May 7, 9:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?
Sorry you didn't like my response. :-(
 
@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?
 
On May 10, 9:41 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?
Reactance is not responsible for a phase change. Reactance of a
capacitor and reactance of an inductor have units of ohms.

A google search for "reactance is responsible for phase difference?"
found this link:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_4/2.html

That resource is approved.
 
On Tue, 10 May 2011 07:42:21 -0700 (PDT), Globemaker
<alanfolmsbee@cabanova.com> wrote:

On May 10, 9:41 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

Reactance is not responsible for a phase change.
---
It most certainly is.
---

Reactance of a capacitor and reactance of an inductor have units of ohms.
---
And???
---

A google search for "reactance is responsible for phase difference?"
found this link:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_4/2.html

That resource is approved.
---
By whom?

--
JF
 
Globemaker Inscribed thus:

On May 10, 9:41 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

Reactance is not responsible for a phase change. Reactance of a
capacitor and reactance of an inductor have units of ohms.

A google search for "reactance is responsible for phase difference?"
found this link:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_4/2.html

That resource is approved.
Now try reading the next page !

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
 
BBC wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?
I _can_, but I think you're either supposed to get that from your
textbook or your teacher.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.shan@gmail.com>
wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?
---
@BBC:

Here, I'll take crack at it:

When a voltage is applied across a conductor and charge starts to
flow, a magnetic field is generated around the conductor which causes
a voltage to be generated in the conductor which opposes the applied
voltage.

This opposition is in addition to the ohmic resistance of the
conductor, and is called "Inductive reactance" or, written
symbolically, "Xl" (X sub L)

Now, since time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening
all at once, the magnetic field doesn't build up instantaneously and,
as a consequence, as the voltage across the inductance varies, the
current through it won't fall in step.

Do you understand?

--
JF
 
On May 10, 8:00 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

---
@BBC:

Here, I'll take crack at it:

When a voltage is applied across a conductor and charge starts to
flow, a magnetic field is generated around the conductor which causes
a voltage to be generated in the conductor which opposes the applied
voltage.

This opposition is in addition to the ohmic resistance of the
conductor, and is called "Inductive reactance" or, written
symbolically, "Xl" (X sub L)

Now, since time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening
all at once, the magnetic field doesn't build up instantaneously and,
as a consequence, as the voltage across the inductance varies, the
current through it won't fall in step.

Do you understand?

--
JF
You know, I think the best way to understand about R, C and L might be
to build circuits and measure things with 'scopes. (and the proper
scope probes) But I can't remember every doing that in college.

George H.
 
On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

On May 10, 8:00 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

---
@BBC:

Here, I'll take crack at it:

When a voltage is applied across a conductor and charge starts to
flow, a magnetic field is generated around the conductor which causes
a voltage to be generated in the conductor which opposes the applied
voltage.

This opposition is in addition to the ohmic resistance of the
conductor, and is called "Inductive reactance" or, written
symbolically, "Xl" (X sub L)

Now, since time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening
all at once, the magnetic field doesn't build up instantaneously and,
as a consequence, as the voltage across the inductance varies, the
current through it won't fall in step.

Do you understand?

--
JF

You know, I think the best way to understand about R, C and L might be
to build circuits and measure things with 'scopes. (and the proper
scope probes) But I can't remember every doing that in college.
Instead of investing all that time and all those resources, why not
just use SPICE?

--
JF
 
On May 7, 7:38 am, BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why there exists phase difference between current and voltage?
Think about a capacitor charging through a resistor. When you apply
the voltage, the capacitor starts charging with maximum current and
minimum voltage across the capacitor. As time passes, the capacitor
voltages increases while the current decreases, since the voltage
across the resistor becomes less and less, and so does the capacitor
current. So, the current and voltage of the capacitor are out of
phase, since one will reach a maximum at the same time the other
reaches a minimum. The capacitor voltage reaches a maximum when the
current is zero, and visa versa. That's 90 degrees. The inductor is
the opposite, where current starts at zero and rises, while the
voltage across the inductor falls.

-Bill
 
On May 11, 6:01 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT), George Herold





gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:
On May 10, 8:00 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

---
@BBC:

Here, I'll take crack at it:

When a voltage is applied across a conductor and charge starts to
flow, a magnetic field is generated around the conductor which causes
a voltage to be generated in the conductor which opposes the applied
voltage.

This opposition is in addition to the ohmic resistance of the
conductor, and is called "Inductive reactance" or, written
symbolically, "Xl" (X sub L)

Now, since time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening
all at once, the magnetic field doesn't build up instantaneously and,
as a consequence, as the voltage across the inductance varies, the
current through it won't fall in step.

Do you understand?

--
JF

You know, I think the best way to understand about R, C and L might be
to build circuits and measure things with 'scopes.  (and the proper
scope probes)  But I can't remember every doing that in college.

Instead of investing all that time and all those resources, why not
just use SPICE?

--
JF- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Hmm, Yeah the difference between a simulation and real life. No arc's
when you unplug the coil at full current in the simulation.

George H.
 
John Fields wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT), George Herold

You know, I think the best way to understand about R, C and L might be
to build circuits and measure things with 'scopes. (and the proper
scope probes) But I can't remember every doing that in college.

Instead of investing all that time and all those resources, why not
just use SPICE?
Confucius say:
I hear and I forget.
I see and I remember.
I do and I understand.

Hope This Helps!
Rich
 
On Wed, 11 May 2011 17:55:48 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

On May 11, 6:01 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 19:42:22 -0700 (PDT), George Herold





gher...@teachspin.com> wrote:
On May 10, 8:00 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 06:41:45 -0700 (PDT), BBC <ssundar.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

@rich:can u tell me how the reactance is responsible for phase
difference?

---
@BBC:

Here, I'll take crack at it:

When a voltage is applied across a conductor and charge starts to
flow, a magnetic field is generated around the conductor which causes
a voltage to be generated in the conductor which opposes the applied
voltage.

This opposition is in addition to the ohmic resistance of the
conductor, and is called "Inductive reactance" or, written
symbolically, "Xl" (X sub L)

Now, since time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening
all at once, the magnetic field doesn't build up instantaneously and,
as a consequence, as the voltage across the inductance varies, the
current through it won't fall in step.

Do you understand?

--
JF

You know, I think the best way to understand about R, C and L might be
to build circuits and measure things with 'scopes.  (and the proper
scope probes)  But I can't remember every doing that in college.

Instead of investing all that time and all those resources, why not
just use SPICE?

--
JF- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmm, Yeah the difference between a simulation and real life. No arc's
when you unplug the coil at full current in the simulation.

George H.
---
Arc is???

Take a look at the top of the coil for a clue. ;)

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